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| 18:48 |
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cmdln joined #spanworm |
| 20:44 |
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pdurbin |
cmdln: you're back! :) |
| 20:45 |
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pdurbin |
i just notice evan p linked back here: https://plus.google.com/104323674441008487802/posts/AKJVghGb3wG |
| 20:45 |
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pdurbin |
which was very nice of him |
| 20:46 |
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pdurbin |
oh, I should mention I just listened to Cory Doctorow on Leo Laporte's "Triangulation" |
| 20:46 |
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pdurbin |
great show: http://twit.tv/show/triangulation/92-0 |
| 20:47 |
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pdurbin |
It's funny, I've seen numerous tweets from Lawrence Lessig about #rootstrikers but I never bothered to look it up. Cory explained it and now I'm intrigued. |
| 20:47 |
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cmdln |
must have been on his current book tour |
| 20:47 |
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cmdln |
I saw Cory while he was here in DC |
| 20:47 |
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cmdln |
I have a recording of the talk |
| 20:47 |
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pdurbin |
yeah, he's flying all over |
| 20:48 |
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pdurbin |
or driving? might be a bus :) |
| 20:48 |
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cmdln |
Not sure when I'll get a chance to edit and master it, though |
| 20:48 |
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cmdln |
I think he's flying |
| 20:48 |
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pdurbin |
ok |
| 20:49 |
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pdurbin |
"Join the crowdsourced effort to get politicians on the record about money in politics." -- http://www.rootstrikers.org |
| 20:50 |
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pdurbin |
fairly US-centric, I imagine |
| 20:50 |
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cmdln |
Yes. |
| 20:50 |
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cmdln |
Lessig's work since he shifted away from Copyright reform. |
| 20:51 |
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pdurbin |
right, the way Cory framed it was that rootstrikers is more... fundamental. must fix corruption first, then work on things like copyright reform |
| 20:52 |
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cmdln |
Yep. |
| 20:53 |
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pdurbin |
I'm still figuring out what this channel is about but I don't plan to get very political. |
| 20:58 |
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pdurbin |
cmdln: any data liberation issues on your mind? owning your own data? etc. :) |
| 20:58 |
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cmdln |
Nothing particular at the moment |
| 20:59 |
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cmdln |
I have been slammed at work lately |
| 20:59 |
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pdurbin |
heh. ok :) |
| 20:59 |
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cmdln |
So most of my mental capacity has been dealing with software development, network freedom, preparing for various events, etc. |
| 20:59 |
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pdurbin |
network freedom? |
| 21:01 |
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cmdln |
Providing access to communicate freely online where there are political barriers to doing so |
| 21:01 |
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cmdln |
e.g. the happenings in the Middle East and North Africa over the last few years |
| 21:02 |
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cmdln |
One of our projects at work is currently funded by several federal grants under the USG's focus on net freedom as part of its foreign policy |
| 21:02 |
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cmdln |
(I'm writing a lightning talk right now to give at an event hosted by the State Department.) |
| 21:03 |
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pdurbin |
hmm, you might be interested in http://www.ictworks.org/news/2013/02/25/who-let-all-those-ghanaians-on-the-internet-jenna-burrell-on-internet-exclusion/ via https://plus.google.com/107770072576338242009/posts/Yke7HDDqHMm |
| 21:04 |
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pdurbin |
that article is more about whole countries (like Ghana) being blocked. ip addresses for the whole country |
| 21:05 |
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pdurbin |
I guess people call the happenings you mentioned "the Arab Spring" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Spring |
| 21:05 |
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cmdln |
Yep. With our technology, will be possible to share any alternate physical links that may not be blocked like satellite or high power, point-to-point wireless. |
| 21:05 |
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cmdln |
Yes, they do. |
| 21:06 |
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pdurbin |
so these people with political barriers... i assume they want to remain anonymous when communicating online |
| 21:07 |
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cmdln |
Anonynous or at least pseudonymous, yes. |
| 21:07 |
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cmdln |
That is why Tor is a very popular tool in this space, as are VPN's and other secure proxies. |
| 21:08 |
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pdurbin |
makes sense |
| 21:09 |
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pdurbin |
alternate physical links? should the internet route around problems, generally? |
| 21:12 |
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cmdln |
Many countries have only a few physical connections to the internet through which all local in country traffic is routed globally |
| 21:13 |
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cmdln |
This is why internet can easily be shut down, where the state controls those few links |
| 21:13 |
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cmdln |
If alternate links don't exist, the internet cannot route around |
| 21:13 |
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pdurbin |
ah, I see |
| 21:13 |
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pdurbin |
so we don't really have this problem in the US |
| 21:14 |
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cmdln |
We have more social and economic barriers to network access than physical |
| 21:14 |
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pdurbin |
true enough |
| 21:14 |
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cmdln |
e.g. neighborhoods too poor to afford even cheap broadband |
| 21:14 |
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cmdln |
And providers who just don't see it as worthwhile make access there more affordable |
| 21:14 |
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pdurbin |
lots of people getting smart phone though who might not have internet at home though, which is cool |
| 21:14 |
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pdurbin |
phones |
| 21:15 |
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pdurbin |
cmdln: is your project open source? |
| 21:16 |
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cmdln |
Not really as it is not as fast as fixed access and it often is even more expensive, especially given data caps and other forms in interference with mobile networks designed to extract more money |
| 21:16 |
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cmdln |
Yes. http://code.commotionwireless.net |
| 21:19 |
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* pdurbin |
runs git clone git://git.chambana.net/commotion/commotion-openwrt.git |
| 21:20 |
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pdurbin |
shell scripts and lua? |
| 21:20 |
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cmdln |
We are in the middle of putting out a new release |
| 21:21 |
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cmdln |
The new release replaces most of the shell scripts with a new central daemon with a set of APIs |
| 21:21 |
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cmdln |
The web environment we use for the captive portals and web management interface use Luci, which is built in Lua |
| 21:22 |
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pdurbin |
i think of luci as that thing that's part of red hat cluster suite |
| 21:22 |
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pdurbin |
https://access.redhat.com/knowledge/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html/Cluster_Suite_Overview/s1-clumgmttools-overview-CSO.html |
| 21:23 |
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pdurbin |
there's also a ricci :) |
| 21:23 |
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pdurbin |
but i suspect your Luci is entirely different |
| 21:23 |
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cmdln |
Yeah |
| 21:23 |
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cmdln |
It is designed for SOC and other resource constrained devices, like home wireless routers |
| 21:24 |
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pdurbin |
did you look at http://www.packetfence.org ? it's kind of in the same space... maybe :) |
| 21:27 |
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cmdln |
I don't know if this is what OpenWRT uses, but it already supports some of these sorts of features |
| 21:28 |
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cmdln |
Like guest networks and setting rate limits |
| 21:29 |
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cmdln |
We are focused specifically on mesh networks and don't currently deploy an IDS like PacketFence does with Snort |
| 21:29 |
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pdurbin |
ok, cool |
| 21:29 |
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pdurbin |
so no java these days? |
| 21:32 |
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pdurbin |
actually, now that I'm using Java I should re-listen to http://thecommandline.net/2010/03/17/tools/ |
| 21:33 |
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pdurbin |
uh oh, show notes are 404 |
| 21:37 |
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cmdln |
I am now a full time manager, so not much of anything for me, let alone Java |
| 21:37 |
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cmdln |
But, no, my staff don't do much Java, other than Android |
| 21:37 |
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cmdln |
Those notes were hosted on LibSyn, sorry |
| 21:38 |
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cmdln |
I canceled that account a while back |
| 21:38 |
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pdurbin |
well, even managers are welcome in my other channel: http://irclog.greptilian.com/sourcefu/2012-11-28#i_108 |
| 21:39 |
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cmdln |
heh |
| 21:39 |
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cmdln |
Just because I no longer code for a living doesn't mean I am not a hacker ;-) |
| 21:40 |
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pdurbin |
well then! please join us in #sourcefu! we'd love to have you |
| 21:40 |
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pdurbin |
i can add lua to http://sourcefu.com/topics |
| 21:41 |
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cmdln |
Not necessary |
| 21:41 |
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cmdln |
I don't know it, my staff uses it |
| 21:41 |
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pdurbin |
ok :) |
| 23:22 |
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pdurbin |
just found http://openmatt.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/byebyedrumbeat/ via https://www.drumbeat.org/en-US/ |
| 23:22 |
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pdurbin |
"Drumbeat was so successful, we’re shutting it down." |
| 23:25 |
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pdurbin |
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