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| 05:14 |
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| 05:44 |
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pdurbin |
hello world! |
| 05:45 |
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pdurbin |
i've been pretty happy with how my #crimsonfu experiment has gone and i'm hoping to replicate it here, with a few changes |
| 05:46 |
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pdurbin |
first, i'm thinking #sourcefu will have a different list of topics vs. http://crimsonfu.github.com/topics |
| 05:47 |
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pdurbin |
i mean, there's sure to be some overlap |
| 05:47 |
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pdurbin |
perl, python, ruby, and vagrant are certainly on topic here too |
| 05:48 |
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pdurbin |
and other topics from #crimsonfu as they're added to the list |
| 05:49 |
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pdurbin |
but i'm thinking the audience for this channel will be slightly different... |
| 05:49 |
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pdurbin |
crimsonfu's tagline is "sysadmins who code" |
| 05:49 |
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pdurbin |
i'm not sure what the tagline will be for #sourcefu yet |
| 05:50 |
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pdurbin |
(suggestions welcome) |
| 05:51 |
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pdurbin |
uh... "code monkey chat" ... i dunno |
| 05:52 |
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pdurbin |
many things will be the same... especially the guiding principles |
| 05:52 |
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pdurbin |
- None of us is as smart as all of us |
| 05:53 |
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pdurbin |
- Open source by default |
| 05:53 |
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pdurbin |
- When in doubt, make it public |
| 05:54 |
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pdurbin |
if you like #crimsonfu, i think you'll like it here. i plan to hang out in both places |
| 05:55 |
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pdurbin |
but the idea is that #sourcefu is more about the source, the coding |
| 05:55 |
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pdurbin |
we'll see how it goes |
| 05:56 |
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pdurbin |
i'm cautiously optimistic :) |
| 05:56 |
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pdurbin |
the nice thing is that it's a green field. the members of this channel get to define themselves |
| 05:57 |
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pdurbin |
it'll have its own culture, i bet |
| 05:58 |
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pdurbin |
time to announce its existence, i guess :) |
| 06:11 |
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pdurbin |
ok, i announced it on #crimsonfu: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/crimsonfu/2012-11-28#i_6191375 |
| 06:13 |
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pdurbin |
as i mentioned on twitter the other day, i'm going to be diving into a java web app soon when i start my new job in a couple weeks: https://twitter.com/philipdurbin/status/273229031082692608 |
| 06:14 |
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pdurbin |
the code is in svn on sourceforge: https://dvn.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/dvn/dvn-app/trunk |
| 06:15 |
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pdurbin |
and i played around a bit with converting it to git with svn2git: https://github.com/nirvdrum/svn2git |
| 06:15 |
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pdurbin |
time rsync -av 'dvn.svn.sourceforge.net::svn/dvn/*' . |
| 06:15 |
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pdurbin |
(14 minutes) |
| 06:16 |
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pdurbin |
time svn2git file:///home/pdurbin/dvn-svn2git/source --trunk dvn-app/trunk --branches dvn-app/branches |
| 06:16 |
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pdurbin |
(30 minutes) |
| 06:16 |
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pdurbin |
but i'm not even exactly sure i'm doing the conversion right... i'll have to check with team about how the code is organized |
| 06:18 |
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pdurbin |
anyway, assuming i'm doing this somewhat right, my next thought was to get a sense of how many lines of code there are. i found `cloc` for this: http://cloc.sourceforge.net (Count Lines Of Code) |
| 06:19 |
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pdurbin |
it's showing 98,382 lines of Java, not including blank lines or comments |
| 06:19 |
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pdurbin |
seems like kind of a lot :) |
| 06:20 |
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pdurbin |
anyway, i knew it would be a lot of code, which is why the other day i re-listened to this: Episode 148: Software Archaeology with Dave Thomas | Software Engineering Radio - http://www.se-radio.net/2009/11/episode-148-software-archaeology-with-dave-thomas/ |
| 06:20 |
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pdurbin |
which i highly recommend |
| 06:21 |
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pdurbin |
i like how he talks about trying to get a big picture of the code |
| 06:21 |
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pdurbin |
trying to find the main entry point |
| 06:21 |
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pdurbin |
trying to get into the heads of the developers who wrote it |
| 06:22 |
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pdurbin |
building some scaffolding around the code (version control) so you can make changes and annotate them |
| 06:24 |
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pdurbin |
i also want to make sure i have a decent understanding of how the code is deployed in production, so i created this vagrant repo: https://github.com/pdurbin/dvn-vagrant |
| 06:25 |
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pdurbin |
it could possibly double as a demo for anyone who wants to kick the tires the web app, in a virtual machine on their laptop or whatever |
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pdurbin |
"The agenda includes: An overview of the gaming industry from insider perspectives, Game Development, Graphic Arts, Project Management, Mobile Gaming" from Turbine Games - 2012-09-28 Turbine Workshop - https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=0310E27CA961CC7C&id=310E27CA961CC7C%21165 |
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semiosis |
:O |
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| 15:37 |
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matt1337357 |
@pdurbin: what are you thinking of for topics? |
| 15:40 |
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pdurbin |
MATT1337357: why is your nick shouting? :) |
| 15:41 |
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pdurbin |
topics: anything related to software development |
| 15:41 |
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semiosis |
whats the best editor/ide? |
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* semiosis |
ducks |
| 15:42 |
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MATT1337357 |
ha - i thought Irc was mostly about shouting and trolling... |
| 15:42 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: sure, that's allowed |
| 15:43 |
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MATT1337357 |
I've been doing a lot of development work in nodejs and obj-c nowadays |
| 15:43 |
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MATT1337357 |
after using node for a bit, i really dislike standard apache setups |
| 15:44 |
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pdurbin |
matt1337357: thank you ;) |
| 15:44 |
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pdurbin |
ironcamel: you're always grumpy about apache |
| 15:44 |
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matt1337357 |
apache just feels... dated |
| 15:45 |
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matt1337357 |
you can do a lot of really awesome real-time data stuff in node |
| 15:46 |
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matt1337357 |
mostly thinking about... working with twitter, instagram, and facebook API's |
| 15:46 |
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pdurbin |
i'd like to add a hubot to this channel. it runs on node and is written in coffeescript: http://hubot.github.com |
| 15:47 |
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matt1337357 |
does it work just like any other bot? |
| 15:47 |
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matt1337357 |
like event triggered... command oriented |
| 15:48 |
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matt1337357 |
neat it's deployable on heroku |
| 15:48 |
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pdurbin |
dunno but it's supposed to be awesome |
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pdurbin |
for now we'll use good old crimsonfubot |
| 16:05 |
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matt1337357 |
can you own channels on freenode? |
| 16:05 |
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semiosis |
yes, via chanserv |
| 16:08 |
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semiosis |
@lucky crimsonfu setup freenode |
| 16:08 |
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crimsonfubot |
semiosis: http://crimsonfu.github.com/2012/02/06/crimsonfu-freenode-irc-channel-setup.html |
| 16:11 |
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| 16:12 |
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eric02138 |
Hello Interwebs! |
| 16:12 |
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eric02138 |
Interwebs is quiet. I demand instant gratification. |
| 16:13 |
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matt1337357 |
http://bit.ly/Wvf0kW |
| 16:13 |
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eric02138 |
Much better. |
| 16:14 |
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pdurbin |
eric02138: you could catch up... http://irclog.greptilian.com/sourcefu/2012-11-28 |
| 16:24 |
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raprasad |
pdurbin: I ran the cloc on the mcb site. For the python part it's giving 15,182 loc. That includes modules for the personnel database (2,612 loc) and one-time content migration scripts (2,526 loc). |
| 16:28 |
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pdurbin |
raprasad: interesting. is that your biggest code base? |
| 16:28 |
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pdurbin |
(you've been busy!) |
| 16:29 |
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raprasad |
I think spinal was bigger--but that would be spinal 2 years ago |
| 16:30 |
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raprasad |
addicted to this cloc script. now running it over more projects from last 2 years |
| 16:32 |
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pdurbin |
raprasad: yeah |
| 16:32 |
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raprasad |
33,920 python loc. blah.. hard to count html, js without digging in, avoiding jquery modules, etc. |
| 16:32 |
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pdurbin |
"Analyzed over 2 years ago" -- http://www.ohloh.net/p/dvn ... anyone know how to make ohloh re-analyze your code? is there some other service for this these days? |
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westmaas |
slowpoke |
| 18:31 |
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pdurbin |
late to the party |
| 18:32 |
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westmaas |
as always! |
| 19:01 |
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ironcamel |
what's westmaas doing here? this isn't #directorfu |
| 19:03 |
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pdurbin |
ironcamel: can we keep him? |
| 19:03 |
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ironcamel |
yes |
| 19:04 |
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westmaas |
haha |
| 19:04 |
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westmaas |
I don't care if you guys join #directorfu |
| 19:06 |
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ironcamel |
i don't haven enough vpn keys to get in that |
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batmagoo |
ah, IRC... what memories this brings back. |
| 19:11 |
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batmagoo |
it was all we had, when i were a lad. |
| 19:12 |
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batmagoo |
now everybody and their brother is "liking" stuff |
| 19:12 |
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batmagoo |
stop liking everything! |
| 19:12 |
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westmaas |
+1 |
| 19:16 |
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pdurbin |
i'm tellin' ya, IRC is better than Twitter: https://plus.google.com/107770072576338242009/posts/dZ365p2Qyuk |
| 19:17 |
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batmagoo |
i've never tweeted in my entire life. and i have a stupid phone. |
| 19:17 |
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batmagoo |
not that i am a Luddite; far from it |
| 19:18 |
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batmagoo |
i loves me some computin' |
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batmagoo |
just not interested in making them do that. |
| 19:21 |
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westmaas |
my only tweet was when my account got hacked :( |
| 19:21 |
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westmaas |
but I do have a fancy phone |
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pdurbin |
oh! before i leave for the day i should mention i did buy http://sourcefu.com last night. i'm planning to host the website with jekyll from a git repo at https://github.com/sourcefu ... much like https://github.com/crimsonfu/crimsonfu.github.com |
| 21:30 |
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pdurbin |
so please start thinking about what you'd like to put on your member page :) |
| 21:31 |
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pdurbin |
and if you want write access, please tell us your github username |
| 21:32 |
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semiosis |
seen octopress? |
| 21:33 |
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semiosis |
(the new jekyll) |
| 21:33 |
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semiosis |
@lucky octopress |
| 21:33 |
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crimsonfubot |
semiosis: http://octopress.org/ |
| 21:33 |
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semiosis |
yea |
| 21:33 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: i'm willing to let you make it octopress. you have to maintain it though |
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semiosis |
rofl |
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semiosis |
good one |
| 21:34 |
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semiosis |
i've never used either |
| 21:34 |
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pdurbin |
at least we have people with some design sense in here :) |
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