| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 01:47 |
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ironcamel |
java IS fun, in a masochistic sort of way |
| 01:48 |
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ironcamel |
i do enjoy its unparalled api documenation |
| 01:57 |
|
pdurbin |
lol |
| 01:58 |
|
pdurbin |
i dunno. i was just working on this thing today. silent error. took out a try/catch and added a throws to the method. and the same thows to the method that was calling it. and the exception shows up in the web interface. no more silent failure. it was pretty slick |
| 02:00 |
|
pdurbin |
here's the try/catch i took out: https://github.com/IQSS/dvn/blob/688bbe685144a0629da6b8125366e8969e41e2b0/src/DVN-EJB/src/java/edu/harvard/iq/dvn/core/index/Indexer.java#L985 |
| 02:00 |
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pdurbin |
maybe it's netbeans that i liked... that it made these code changes very easy |
| 03:43 |
|
ironcamel |
yeah, that has nothing to do with java |
| 03:43 |
|
ironcamel |
perl Dancer does the exact same thing for example, when run in development mode |
| 03:43 |
|
pdurbin |
perl has exceptions?!? ;) |
| 03:47 |
|
pdurbin |
ironcamel: Try::Tiny, right? http://irclog.perlgeek.de/crimsonfu/2013-02-21#i_6480846 :) |
| 03:49 |
|
ironcamel |
of course perl has exceptions, and it doesn't require a special library |
| 03:49 |
|
ironcamel |
die SomeException->new('blah'); |
| 03:49 |
|
ironcamel |
or die "some string"; |
| 03:49 |
|
ironcamel |
die is equivalent of throw |
| 03:50 |
|
ironcamel |
it can throw strings or any kind of object |
| 03:50 |
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ironcamel |
but my point was about Dancer showing nice information in the browser for uncaught exceptions |
| 03:50 |
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ironcamel |
that is a pretty standard thing i would think, for web frameworks |
| 03:51 |
|
pdurbin |
yeah, i assumed so |
| 03:51 |
|
pdurbin |
this is my first time really working a lot in a web framework |
| 03:51 |
|
pdurbin |
java ee |
| 03:52 |
|
pdurbin |
jsf |
| 03:52 |
|
pdurbin |
(java server faces) |
| 03:53 |
|
pdurbin |
i guess i've only used die with "some string" ... |
| 03:53 |
|
ironcamel |
i worked 4 years straight on a java web app, for govt employees to do their time clock stuff, it was not the greatest |
| 03:53 |
|
ironcamel |
it was a homegrown web framework |
| 03:54 |
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pdurbin |
jsf seems fine. i'm not picky :) |
| 03:54 |
|
ironcamel |
but it supported most of the govt employees |
| 03:54 |
|
pdurbin |
someday i'll try dancer and swoon :) |
| 03:54 |
|
ironcamel |
millions of users |
| 03:57 |
|
ironcamel |
that might be an exageration, our biggest costumer was DHS, which had over 100,000 employees |
| 03:57 |
|
ironcamel |
but the whole thing was 500,000 lines of code |
| 03:57 |
|
ironcamel |
counting the java and backend pl/sql code |
| 03:57 |
|
ironcamel |
which is kind of ridiculous |
| 03:58 |
|
ironcamel |
especially nowadays, with all the nice frameworks available |
| 03:59 |
|
pdurbin |
our java app is 100,000 lines of code: http://irclog.greptilian.com/sourcefu/2012-11-28#i_39 |
| 03:59 |
|
pdurbin |
(assuming i'm using cloc right) |
| 04:00 |
|
ironcamel |
sounds like a monster |
| 04:00 |
|
pdurbin |
heh, #directorfu: http://irclog.greptilian.com/sourcefu/2012-11-28#i_108 |
| 04:00 |
|
pdurbin |
man do i love reading from top to bottom |
| 04:08 |
|
* pdurbin |
makes the "blogs are backwards" argument again, this time in my feeback about pump.io: http://irclog.greptilian.com/spanworm/2013-02-26#i_3591 |
| 04:08 |
|
pdurbin |
ironcamel: patches welcome! you can decide if it's a monster: https://github.com/iqss/dvn :) |
| 04:09 |
|
ironcamel |
last commit was a month ago? |
| 04:10 |
|
ironcamel |
something fishy is going on |
| 04:12 |
|
ironcamel |
i do like the idea behind thedata.org |
| 04:13 |
|
pdurbin |
https://github.com/iqss/dvn/tree/develop is where the latest commits are |
| 04:14 |
|
pdurbin |
we're trying to follow http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/ per http://dvn.github.com/dvn-sourceforge2github/dvn-dev-on-github/quickstart/ |
| 04:14 |
|
ironcamel |
makes sense |
| 04:14 |
|
ironcamel |
we do a similar (same) thing |
| 04:15 |
|
ironcamel |
based on that same article i think |
| 04:15 |
|
pdurbin |
i was just going to have the latest commits in master |
| 04:15 |
|
pdurbin |
but i was talked into this way |
| 04:15 |
|
pdurbin |
and it's fine |
| 04:16 |
|
pdurbin |
i'm just glad there's a nice write up of it with pretty pictures :) |
| 04:17 |
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ironcamel |
we skip the "release branch" |
| 04:17 |
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pdurbin |
yeah, we probably will too |
| 04:17 |
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pdurbin |
i'm the only one doing a feature branch |
| 04:17 |
|
pdurbin |
everyone else is pushing to the integration branch ("develop") |
| 06:22 |
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ironcamel |
we do feature branches. and we have to get code reviews as a blocker to pushing to "develop" |
| 06:22 |
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ironcamel |
*before pushing to |
| 11:03 |
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pdurbin |
ironcamel: code reviews with http://code.google.com/p/gerrit/ ? |
| 12:31 |
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| 14:03 |
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pdurbin |
ironcamel: I pushed the commmit I was talking about: prevent silent failure when Solr is down · 70576f4 · IQSS/dvn · GitHub - https://github.com/IQSS/dvn/commit/70576f4147957d7eae4fe0735ee856d9a858d896 |
| 14:13 |
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| 18:10 |
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| 18:24 |
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pdurbin |
astorer: free book but is it any good? Elements of Statistical Learning: data mining, inference, and prediction. 2nd Edition. - http://www-stat.stanford.edu/~tibs/ElemStatLearn/ |
| 18:24 |
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astorer |
pdurbin: it's a great book. I have a hard copy at my desk. :) |
| 18:25 |
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pdurbin |
cool. spotted it at https://plus.google.com/105059362788808645801/posts/UMMUL8oT6zr |
| 18:27 |
|
astorer |
it covers a lot of material, and there's a lot of math, but it's really helpful. |
| 18:29 |
|
pdurbin |
good to know |
| 19:47 |
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ironcamel |
pdurbin: no, not gerrit. someone just types +1 in the comments for the pull request in github |
| 19:48 |
|
pdurbin |
:) |
| 19:49 |
|
pdurbin |
that'll work |
| 20:00 |
|
ironcamel |
i had to use gerrit (on top of github) at my last job. man, i hated gerrit. |
| 20:02 |
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pdurbin |
hmm, i've only heard about it |
| 20:02 |
|
pdurbin |
crimsonfubot`: lucky gerrit floss weekly |
| 20:02 |
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crimsonfubot` |
pdurbin: http://twit.tv/floss118 |
| 20:02 |
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pdurbin |
^^ |
| 20:03 |
|
semiosis |
pdurbin: the glusterfs project uses gerrit, as does AOSP (who built it iirc) |
| 20:03 |
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pdurbin |
sounded good anyway |
| 20:03 |
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semiosis |
i have some familiarity with it bwo glusterfs |
| 20:04 |
|
semiosis |
it's not as friendly as the github workflow imho but if you have a complex project with lots of devs and you dont want to drink the github cool aid it's probably the best choice |
| 20:04 |
|
pdurbin |
is there any data liberation of github comments? |
| 20:05 |
|
pdurbin |
maybe you can download them through github's api |
| 20:06 |
|
ironcamel |
good question, i don't know |
| 22:08 |
|
pdurbin |
helpful: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2271600/elasticsearch-sphinx-lucene-solr-xapian-which-fits-for-which-usage/2288211#2288211 |
