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14:02 pdurbin speaking of CORBA, it's argued here that Java EE evolved from it: http://markclittle.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/more-thoughts-on-container-less.html
14:02 pdurbin whartung: ^^
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14:55 composed i looked for this everywhere but I couldn't find a specific opinion - every REST API should have one entrypoint and return other URLs for interaction. this allows me eot keep changing the URL formats as I need which is great
14:55 composed but clients will have cached various URLs so I still need to maintain any exposed URL forever... or.. is there a rule for this?
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15:06 composed I guess everyting is .... RESTing :P
15:06 composed I know, I know, I'll walk myself out
15:06 pdurbin composed: the rule is "API design is building in future regret" ... you have to support everything *forever* ;) ... maybe you could stick a "v1" in there
15:07 composed pdurbin: I've been thining if we'll treat URLs as object references ticular object references don't really need some name, as long as they're unique, right
15:07 composed I've been considering giving versions and legible names only to the API entripoints
15:07 composed but use:  /o/9217037409374/ for everything else
15:07 composed because it's just an object reference
15:08 composed This means internally I don't need a complex router to parse URLs, I just need a table of object ids pointing to some metadata
15:16 composed did I lose everyone :)
15:17 asdf` composed, irc is asynchronous, sometimes you need to wait some time for an answer
15:18 composed that's ok, it's just that I translate it "everyone thinks what I said is horrible" :)
15:18 asdf` composed, other than that, sure, do support all urls for as long as possible, why not; just 301 to the most recent version
15:18 composed ok thanks asdf`
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18:17 trygvis pdurbin: RMI definitely has a big inheritance from CORBA, so does SOAP
18:17 trygvis RMI can call CORBA objects directly if they use IIOP (which is default for RMI AFAIR)
18:20 pdurbin yeah, I do feel like I've heard people compare RMI to CORBA before. I've never used SOAP.
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18:28 trygvis and EJB up to 2.1 (IIRC) was fully dependent on RMI
18:29 trygvis EJB specified services that was almost directly modelled after the standard CORBA services
18:29 trygvis so EJB/J2EE was in many ways just a simplification of CORBA as it contained itself to the java platform
18:29 trygvis microsoft's COM, DCOM and COM+ is very similar, only much more MS specific
18:30 trygvis COM was language agnostic, but platform specific. J2EE was/is the other way around
18:31 pdurbin yeah, from what I understand EJB 3.0 was a big change for the better
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18:32 trygvis yes, but for other reasons than platform/language
18:34 trygvis remoting over EJB/RMI isn't to aweful if you need that kind of architecture
18:37 pdurbin gotcha
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