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pdurbin |
speaking of CORBA, it's argued here that Java EE evolved from it: http://markclittle.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/more-thoughts-on-container-less.html |
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pdurbin |
whartung: ^^ |
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i looked for this everywhere but I couldn't find a specific opinion - every REST API should have one entrypoint and return other URLs for interaction. this allows me eot keep changing the URL formats as I need which is great |
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composed |
but clients will have cached various URLs so I still need to maintain any exposed URL forever... or.. is there a rule for this? |
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composed |
I guess everyting is .... RESTing :P |
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composed |
I know, I know, I'll walk myself out |
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pdurbin |
composed: the rule is "API design is building in future regret" ... you have to support everything *forever* ;) ... maybe you could stick a "v1" in there |
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pdurbin: I've been thining if we'll treat URLs as object references ticular object references don't really need some name, as long as they're unique, right |
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I've been considering giving versions and legible names only to the API entripoints |
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but use: /o/9217037409374/ for everything else |
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because it's just an object reference |
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This means internally I don't need a complex router to parse URLs, I just need a table of object ids pointing to some metadata |
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composed |
did I lose everyone :) |
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asdf` |
composed, irc is asynchronous, sometimes you need to wait some time for an answer |
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composed |
that's ok, it's just that I translate it "everyone thinks what I said is horrible" :) |
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asdf` |
composed, other than that, sure, do support all urls for as long as possible, why not; just 301 to the most recent version |
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composed |
ok thanks asdf` |
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trygvis |
pdurbin: RMI definitely has a big inheritance from CORBA, so does SOAP |
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trygvis |
RMI can call CORBA objects directly if they use IIOP (which is default for RMI AFAIR) |
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pdurbin |
yeah, I do feel like I've heard people compare RMI to CORBA before. I've never used SOAP. |
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trygvis |
and EJB up to 2.1 (IIRC) was fully dependent on RMI |
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trygvis |
EJB specified services that was almost directly modelled after the standard CORBA services |
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trygvis |
so EJB/J2EE was in many ways just a simplification of CORBA as it contained itself to the java platform |
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trygvis |
microsoft's COM, DCOM and COM+ is very similar, only much more MS specific |
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trygvis |
COM was language agnostic, but platform specific. J2EE was/is the other way around |
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pdurbin |
yeah, from what I understand EJB 3.0 was a big change for the better |
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trygvis |
yes, but for other reasons than platform/language |
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trygvis |
remoting over EJB/RMI isn't to aweful if you need that kind of architecture |
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pdurbin |
gotcha |
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