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IRC log for #rest, 2015-03-08

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14:02 pdurbin speaking of CORBA, it's argued here that Java EE evolved from it: http://markclittle.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/more-thoughts-on-container-less.html
14:02 pdurbin whartung: ^^
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14:55 composed i looked for this everywhere but I couldn't find a specific opinion - every REST API should have one entrypoint and return other URLs for interaction. this allows me eot keep changing the URL formats as I need which is great
14:55 composed but clients will have cached various URLs so I still need to maintain any exposed URL forever... or.. is there a rule for this?
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15:06 composed I guess everyting is .... RESTing :P
15:06 composed I know, I know, I'll walk myself out
15:06 pdurbin composed: the rule is "API design is building in future regret" ... you have to support everything *forever* ;) ... maybe you could stick a "v1" in there
15:07 composed pdurbin: I've been thining if we'll treat URLs as object references ticular object references don't really need some name, as long as they're unique, right
15:07 composed I've been considering giving versions and legible names only to the API entripoints
15:07 composed but use:  /o/9217037409374/ for everything else
15:07 composed because it's just an object reference
15:08 composed This means internally I don't need a complex router to parse URLs, I just need a table of object ids pointing to some metadata
15:16 composed did I lose everyone :)
15:17 asdf` composed, irc is asynchronous, sometimes you need to wait some time for an answer
15:18 composed that's ok, it's just that I translate it "everyone thinks what I said is horrible" :)
15:18 asdf` composed, other than that, sure, do support all urls for as long as possible, why not; just 301 to the most recent version
15:18 composed ok thanks asdf`
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18:17 trygvis pdurbin: RMI definitely has a big inheritance from CORBA, so does SOAP
18:17 trygvis RMI can call CORBA objects directly if they use IIOP (which is default for RMI AFAIR)
18:20 pdurbin yeah, I do feel like I've heard people compare RMI to CORBA before. I've never used SOAP.
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18:28 trygvis and EJB up to 2.1 (IIRC) was fully dependent on RMI
18:29 trygvis EJB specified services that was almost directly modelled after the standard CORBA services
18:29 trygvis so EJB/J2EE was in many ways just a simplification of CORBA as it contained itself to the java platform
18:29 trygvis microsoft's COM, DCOM and COM+ is very similar, only much more MS specific
18:30 trygvis COM was language agnostic, but platform specific. J2EE was/is the other way around
18:31 pdurbin yeah, from what I understand EJB 3.0 was a big change for the better
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18:32 trygvis yes, but for other reasons than platform/language
18:34 trygvis remoting over EJB/RMI isn't to aweful if you need that kind of architecture
18:37 pdurbin gotcha
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#rest on freenode has been logged here from May 2014 until end of July 2018 but logging has been suspended because the channel has been riddled with spam since August 2018 with no end in site. See the following blog posts about the problem:

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