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aspire |
pdurbin wanna see my android app |
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pdurbin |
what does it do? |
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aspire |
pdurbin sorry, i went brb |
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aspire |
its just a very shitty game atm |
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aspire |
frankly its just something so i can get used to android dev and sort of get the hang of game development |
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aspire |
at least simple game development (no opengl or anything like that) |
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aspire |
the method im learning is the equivalent o |
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aspire |
of extending jpanel and overriding a paint method except with some slight modifications* |
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aspire |
anyway if your interested: http://tinypic.com/r/f4dwyx/8 |
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aspire |
i was going to eventually add highscores, powerups, and environment changes but havent gotten to that yet |
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pdurbin |
aspire: a kitten shooting lasers at boxes on a background that looks like a strobe light... no offense but I think I'll stick with 2048: https://plus.google.com/+PhilipDurbin/posts/jTwz6LZuYDV :) |
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LOl |
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aspire |
d/c my bad |
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cem__ |
for bi-directional /using jpa |
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cem__ |
source-child1 , child2 |
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cem__ |
setting source a list of child |
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cem__ |
and when i persist the source it give transient object not allowed |
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cem__ |
then i set the child1.setSource(source);child2.setSource(source) and persist it works fine |
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cem__ |
Exception for bidirectional:object references an unsaved transient instance - save the transient instance before flushing : |
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cem__ |
:'( |
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fabioportieri |
good morning and happy friday |
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neuro_sys |
good friday you too |
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pdurbin |
happy friday to all |
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fabioportieri |
fuck yeah |
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pdurbin |
just posted this last night. I'm SO happy it's working: http://lucene.472066.n3.nabble.com/document-level-security-filter-solution-for-Solr-tp4126992p4127576.html |
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pdurbin |
(Solr document level security thing) |
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phao |
Hi. This node.js seems to be getting lots of popularity these days. I was looking into it and I've heard some people saying stuff like "threads don't scale" and that node.js could achieve faster responses by not being multi-threaded. |
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phao |
Any clues on why that is? I couldn't find much of an explanation to these things. |
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CJ_ |
pdurbin, Have you gotten it all working? I may end up having to tackle a similiar problem. |
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pdurbin |
CJ_: it works! \o/ |
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pdurbin |
CJ_: is it secure enough? will it scale? |
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CJ_ |
pdurbin, That's always the question. :) |
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CJ_ |
I saved your link to look at later when I need to start working on that. But I will definitely be interested in talking to you about your setup then. |
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pdurbin |
CJ_: at least this let us model what we're trying to do... to get all of our business rules in place. We can always swap out the implementation later |
| 13:09 |
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pdurbin |
CJ_: do you find the curl commands and output useful? I love it when I come across stuff like that |
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CJ_ |
I actually haven't really looked at what you did. I just saw that you are solving a problem that is similar to one I will need to solve. |
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tjsnell |
ebay claims pretty impressive performance gains over java |
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CJ_ |
So I bookmarked it for when I reach that point. :) |
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pdurbin |
CJ_: ok. I'm here if you have questions or comments |
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CJ_ |
pdurbin, Thanks. |
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pdurbin |
tjsnell: yeah, and walmart is using node for their mobile api: https://github.com/nodeup/transcriptions/blob/master/56-a-team-walmart-show-nodebf.md |
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pdurbin |
"our node proxy servers are sitting between the mobile clients and our legacy Java services" |
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neuro_sys |
node as in nodejs? |
| 13:17 |
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pdurbin |
yeah |
| 13:18 |
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tjsnell |
http://blog.appfog.com/node-js-is-taking-over-the-enterprise-whether-you-like-it-or-not/ |
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neuro_sys |
I was just considering and reading about that recently, instead of using the nginx as the proxy server. |
| 13:20 |
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neuro_sys |
"There isn’t a web-driven enterprise in the world that doesn’t already have a handful of solid JavaScript developers around." |
| 13:20 |
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neuro_sys |
I don't think that is true |
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pdurbin |
why not? |
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Bombe |
node is the best! |
| 13:25 |
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neuro_sys |
the comment by Steve Perkins is good |
| 13:25 |
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neuro_sys |
on that article |
| 13:36 |
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neuro_sys |
"if you do Java the simple and scalable way (e.g., Jetty over Tomcat, Guice over Spring, and no J2EE or JEE stuff), you can get amazing scale with highly productive environment" |
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neuro_sys |
any remarks on that? |
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pdurbin |
no more fail whale on twitter since they moved from most ruby to mostly jvm |
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tjsnell |
neuro_sys: I agree with that |
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tjsnell |
most of the really big volume stuff I've done was sans a javaee container |
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ilhami |
Hey |
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pdurbin |
tjsnell: Philip Durbin - Google+ - Java, scaling, enterprise software: a chat from #glassfish … - https://plus.google.com/+PhilipDurbin/posts/BJbWsFuq5J2 |
| 14:45 |
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ilhami |
is glassfish any good? |
| 14:46 |
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pdurbin |
yes |
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ilhami |
what about WebLogic? |
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tjsnell |
glassfish is abandonware |
| 14:46 |
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tjsnell |
Weblogic sucks |
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ilhami |
so what's the best server? |
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sfisque |
jboss |
| 14:47 |
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ilhami |
hmm |
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sfisque |
always has been |
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tjsnell |
WildFly |
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ilhami |
well is there an agreement on that? |
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ilhami |
consensus? |
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sfisque |
yes wildfly now |
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sfisque |
(formerly jboss) |
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tjsnell |
there's never an agreement on anything! |
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tjsnell |
wildfly is the most stupid name ever |
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sfisque |
i cannot agree with that tjsnell |
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sfisque |
:P |
| 14:48 |
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tjsnell |
I make fun of it to all my redhat friends frequently |
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ilhami |
so it's the dominant opinion only in here? |
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sfisque |
javaeebot lucky enterprise container demographic deployed |
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javaeebot |
sfisque: http://in.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Ganesh/Sivaramalingam |
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* sfisque |
bonks javaeebot |
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ilhami |
I will try JBoss for my next project. |
| 14:49 |
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sfisque |
javaeebot lucky java ee container statistics deployed production |
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javaeebot |
sfisque: http://java.dzone.com/articles/top-10-causes-java-ee |
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ilhami |
do you guys know any cheap place where you can get cheap server space? |
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tjsnell |
openshift |
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tjsnell |
heroku |
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sfisque |
my rack :P |
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ilhami |
haha how much? |
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ilhami |
for 20 GB ? |
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sfisque |
20gb of what? storage? throughput? transactions? transfers? |
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ilhami |
tjsnell is openshift free? |
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ilhami |
sfisque storage |
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tjsnell |
it ranges from free to $$$$$$ |
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ilhami |
they have a nice website though |
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sfisque |
ilhami you're just looking for storage or a server with 20gb of disk space? |
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ilhami |
a server with 20GB disk space to begin with |
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ilhami |
I dont even need 20GB I think |
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sfisque |
depends on distro. most linux installs nowadways will eat about 10-15 gb |
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ilhami |
do you guys mostly use SQL or NoSQL? |
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sfisque |
havent been on a project that used nosql other than my own hobby proj |
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ilhami |
they say it's scalable |
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ilhami |
:D |
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ilhami |
easily |
| 14:54 |
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ilhami |
and it's schemaless. I dont know if I like if it's schemaless |
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sfisque |
depends on the problem. just like any tool, nosql has its place |
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sfisque |
i would say it's good for simple object crud. i would say it's a bad fit for something that is highly relational (banking, health, retail shopping, etc.) |
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tjsnell |
when you need an alan wrench having a torx handy doesn't help much |
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ilhami |
sfisque would you say it's bad for a ecommerce site? |
| 14:56 |
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sfisque |
depends |
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ilhami |
we use it for our school project.. |
| 14:57 |
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ilhami |
but we chose it just to learn it |
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sfisque |
it would be good for holding collateral (pics, manuals, non-XT stuff). not great for managing the TX with realtime inventory control |
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sfisque |
from what i've read and heard, nosql is a great fit for objcts that change in isolation (docs, pics, blobs, etc.) and not so good for objects that change in a highly relational way |
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ilhami |
tjsnell: can I easily integrate a web service with openshift? |
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ilhami |
sfisque you are probably right. |
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ilhami |
is it always better to have a web service than having direct access to a database? |
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sfisque |
depends on the problem |
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ilhami |
right now I have an android app which is going to speak with a database. I am going to be able to insert some posts and get some posts? |
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ilhami |
I usually use Jersey for web services. I really like it. |
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sfisque |
since you definitely do NOT want a database sitting exposed on the edge of the public cloud, then yes, a conduit of some form (web service, rest api, corba, etc.) should be your arbiter |
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ilhami |
yeah going to use Rest |
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ilhami |
and going to use Wildfly 8 as my server :D |
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ilhami |
is that fine? |
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sfisque |
for something "back office", the choice would be driven by what level of business logic does the app need to impose on it's data requests (can it get by with simple get/puts or does it need to perform complex queries with joins that interlace security or context) |
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sfisque |
that should be fine |
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tjsnell |
ilhami: will you remove the curse you place on me? |
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ilhami |
tjsnell what curse? |
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tjsnell |
you placed some alah based curse on me |
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ilhami |
why would you care when you don't even believe in it? |
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tjsnell |
it just seems rude |
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tjsnell |
I help you and you curse me |
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ilhami |
if you stop insulting me and my religion I shall stop indeed |
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acuzio |
If i start insulting you and your religion ilhami will you place an Allah based curse on me? |
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sfisque |
ilhami he did ask nicely. and he's being polite about it |
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sfisque |
regardless of past tension, i'd like to see this channel stay relatively "calm" |
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ilhami |
tjsnell so do you agree to the pact?' |
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tjsnell |
if you stop wishing vile evil on my friends and relatives |
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acuzio |
tjsnell: what about non-vile evil? |
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ilhami |
I don't wish them to be homosexual dude. It's you who are fine with it |
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pdurbin |
tjsnell: can you and ilhami please work out your differences somewhere else. not in this channel |
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sfisque |
yeah. either agree to disagree simply or carry it out in pm. good point pdurbin |
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ilhami |
we will make a pact. From now on we won't talk about our personal lives in here and focus mainly on Java. |
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ilhami |
What do you say? Do you agree with me ? yes or no? |
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acuzio |
no |
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ilhami |
so why the objection? |
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acuzio |
well cuz |
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tjsnell |
I say if you bring your hatred public I'll confront it head on. If you promise to hide it I won't. I'll be entirely reactionary on the issue. |
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sfisque |
that's a bit heavy handed ilhami. how about we keep it "socialable" with no politics/religion/etc. unless it's informative |
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acuzio |
define socialable, informative |
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* tjsnell |
hugs ilhami |
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tjsnell |
that's socialable |
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acuzio |
Ok |
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acuzio |
What informative> |
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sfisque |
sociable. e.g. "acuzio, how's your day going." "it's ok, took the kids to an easter egg hunt…" "oh cool" (no judgements, mentions religion only in a "information" standpoint" ,etc.) |
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sfisque |
obviously there are grey areas that may get tripped over, but i hope anyone listening can get the "gist" |
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ilhami |
Honestly I come here to learn about Java. You can talk about social stuff if you want. |
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sfisque |
exactly. that's what i was looking for. ty ilhami |
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ilhami |
it's your channel anyway so I can't do anything you don't like without being kicked or banned :D |
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acuzio |
How about - "hey, acuzio what you been upto ?" - "just hanging around , watching some hijab porn" - (no judgements, mentions religion only in a "information standpoint" _ - is this ok? |
| 15:18 |
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tjsnell |
ok, so pretend there isn't evil in the channel, keep it surface and pretend |
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ilhami |
sfisque: you see what he is doing? |
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acuzio |
Who me ? |
| 15:19 |
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ilhami |
yes you |
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acuzio |
What did i do? |
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ilhami |
you are looking for trouble all the time |
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acuzio |
Nope, i am following the rules as laid down by sfisque . |
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acuzio |
I would like you to point out , how i tripped up on the rules? |
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ilhami |
that is to me insulting that you say hijab porn |
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acuzio |
there is a genre called hijab porn |
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acuzio |
Its informational to allow you to specifically search for it. |
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acuzio |
It is absolutely nothing more than that - |
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sfisque |
geez i go afk for 3 min and this is what i have to return too. |
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tjsnell |
ilhami: it's insulting to me when you express your views on gays |
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tjsnell |
sfisque: you should know better than to go afk |
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sfisque |
rofl |
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sfisque |
i know |
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sfisque |
i forget |
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Bombe |
sfisque, you also should know better than to return. |
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sighs |
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sfisque |
ROFLCOPTOR |
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acuzio |
BTW ilhami you should know that i have nothing pro or against your religion - I am just asking the question following the rules as laid down by sfisque |
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sfisque |
it is true |
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mixes up a cosmo and wanders over to the couch to relax |
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acuzio |
In fact , i also have nothing pro or against gays - but if you say, gays should be killed , then thats insulting to me - I have very close gay friends and i will fight for them |
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acuzio |
cosmo - light weight |
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ilhami |
why would you fight for them? |
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tjsnell |
why wouldn't we? |
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tjsnell |
they are humans |
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tjsnell |
and deserve to be treated with dignity |
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ilhami |
you should instead ask them to become straight again and find out why they turned gays |
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sfisque |
ilhami that's over the line |
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neuro_sys |
I like gays more than muslims xD |
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tjsnell |
why? I don't have any issue with them being gay |
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tjsnell |
why would I ask them to change |
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sfisque |
there is more than enough scientific evidence that sexual orientation is part of the genetic profile and not environmental |
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tjsnell |
God made them that way |
| 15:26 |
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tjsnell |
who am I to question our creator |
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sfisque |
as a gender queer member of this channel, i would hope that the scientific understanding in here would know that |
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ilhami |
no he didn't. They have a free will |
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ilhami |
they chose it themselves |
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Bombe |
ilhami, so why don’t you stop being an idiot? |
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Bombe |
I mean, you chose that, too, right? |
| 15:27 |
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sfisque |
we didnt choose our orientation anymore than you chose yours |
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tjsnell |
even if it is a choice, it's theirs and saying it's a choice worthy of death is crazy |
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acuzio |
I just had a brainwave - what if God is gay ? |
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sfisque |
the only choice is to embrace what you are or to deny it. but you cannot change the template |
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sfisque |
without hormonal treatment and surgery |
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sfisque |
but even that is only superficial and not really going to change your orientation |
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acuzio |
sfisque: I dont know how to say this - so i will just say it - Those 3 sentences are the most intelligent sentences spoken on this channel. Thank you. |
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sfisque |
: |
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sfisque |
D |
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sfisque |
:D |
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tjsnell |
those 3 weren't :) |
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neuro_sys |
those 3 were the epitome of humility |
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neuro_sys |
xD |
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tjsnell |
at least he quit instead going on his rant about how all gays and adulterers should be put to death |
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neuro_sys |
yeah, because the world view so fundamentally differs in a low and axiomatic level that it's haplessly impossible for both parties to ever agree. |
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acuzio |
neuro_sys: exactly - so pretending that we have someone here who is going to be reasonable is simply absurd |
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sfisque |
aye |
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firebird1 |
doing regex pattern for email is bit hard |
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Bombe |
.*@.* |
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Bombe |
Done. |
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tjsnell |
regex for email is nearly impossible |
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whartung |
"now you have two problems" |
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sfisque |
firebird1 it's built into the jdk. |
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sfisque |
instantiate an InternetAddress object with the string addr. if it succeeds, it's good. if you get an exception you know it's garbage |
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sfisque |
javax.mail.internet |
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sfisque |
it really is impressive what the platform gives us, if you know what's there under the hood |
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sfisque |
if you need strict rfc format, you can use the constructor that has the "strict" boolean flag |
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Voyage |
tjsnell, firebird1 we can get close for that regex but not 100% accurate |
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sfisque |
voyage he doesnt need a regex. no need to reinvent the square wheel |
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tjsnell |
exactly |
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tjsnell |
a reasonably good email regex is crazy scary |
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Voyage |
sfisque, he doesnt? how? |
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sfisque |
scroll up |
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sfisque |
InternetAddress |
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sfisque |
in the javax.mail package |
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Voyage |
if he needs to recognise emails. what is the way? |
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sfisque |
instantiate InternetAddress. success == good, excpetion == bad |
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sfisque |
it throws an exception if the parse fails |
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Voyage |
so emails can be checked through InternetAddress? |
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sfisque |
yes |
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Voyage |
what is that doing behind the seens? |
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Voyage |
obviously doing some regex? |
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sfisque |
last gig, i traipsed across an object that someone wrote to do this. i ripped it out and replaced it with 1 line of code |
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Voyage |
so? |
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sfisque |
i'm sure it's doing a number of things voyage. the point is, it's already written and tested since j1.3 (over a decade) |
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sfisque |
why write what the platform gives you for free and does the job well |
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Voyage |
so?hm |
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Voyage |
ya |
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sfisque |
that's like saying I"m going to write my own HashMap, because "F" sun |
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Voyage |
sorry for duplicate "so" |
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* sfisque |
nods |
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Voyage |
ya, but just asked out of curiousity, what might it had been using. (I will look it up) |
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sfisque |
i never looked under its hood because it never performed aberrantly for me |
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sfisque |
i'm sure one day i will look |
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firebird1 |
<sfisque> i first did InternetAddress my client wants front end validation thru JS |
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sfisque |
ajax |
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sfisque |
why have 2 impls for the same validation |
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sfisque |
impl it on the server, re-expose it via ajax to the client js layer |
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firebird1 |
errrr no ajax pure client side at first |
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sfisque |
javaeebot lucky javascript rfc 822 format validate |
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javaeebot |
sfisque: http://badsyntax.co/post/javascript-email-validation-rfc822 |
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sfisque |
solved problem. leverage an existing solution |
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sfisque |
unless this is a "learning experience". then by all means, have at it :-D |
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SoniEx2 |
uhh meh screw it |
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I need a LinkedArrayDequeList or something |
