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fabioportieri |
o/ |
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pdurbin |
fabioportieri: mornin'. what's new? |
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pdurbin |
top o' the mornin' I should say |
| 12:40 |
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fabioportieri |
hello pdurbin, dark souls 2 is out! :> |
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pdurbin |
javaeebot: lucky dark souls 2 |
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javaeebot |
pdurbin: http://www.darksoulsii.com/ |
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pdurbin |
ah. xbox game |
| 12:41 |
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fabioportieri |
yep. (ps3) |
| 12:41 |
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fabioportieri |
it's more like a work of art than a game ;) |
| 12:56 |
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pdurbin |
fabioportieri: what's new with java for you? |
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fabioportieri |
nothing much, doing some updates to a site i've been assigned.. huge forms with cobol backend :| |
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fabioportieri |
and they use old ie. argh. |
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fabioportieri |
internet explorer |
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fabioportieri |
ibm guys here are pissing me off |
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acuzio |
Cobol + Webservices for the latest and greatest in technology |
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fabioportieri |
you like cobol, acuzio? |
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acuzio |
who doesnt . |
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fabioportieri |
eheh |
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Naros |
lol those are two words not to be used in the same sentence for sure :P |
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acuzio |
On a serious note - like is too strong a word - i have worked in Cobol as part of attempting to understand a project where we were interfacing with a Retail Bank |
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Naros |
yah banks still work in the dark ages :P |
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Naros |
AS400 mainframes still alive and kickin' |
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acuzio |
Actually some bank systems are much too expensive to actually replace |
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fabioportieri |
but, they sure don't lack moneys! |
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acuzio |
Plus Cobol is a proven tech as is AS/400 - I know of mainframe systems that have uptimes measured in years with hot swappable "everything" |
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fabioportieri |
yea i guess cobol strong point is its stabilty? |
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Naros |
Yep, not knockin' them. Just saying they're very old tech compared to what we have today. |
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* pdurbin |
remembers AS/400's |
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acuzio |
There is a move in many financial orgs to put a thin layer over the underlying COBOL engine to extract data out and do all enhancements that way - ., I don;t know of many places doing "new" cobol development |
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fabioportieri |
yes my project is using that layer indeed |
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fabioportieri |
using reflecion to extract stuff and map in classes |
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acuzio |
From what i know , the main reason for doing this is lack of Technical Resources - not because of any inherent fault in the technology |
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acuzio |
i.e. its not that the banks are doing something new that COBOL cannot handle , just that its really hard to find qualified people in Cobol. |
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pdurbin |
quick! do you prefer the git-flow model ( http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/ ) or the github-flow model ( http://scottchacon.com/2011/08/31/github-flow.html )? |
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* whartung |
uses svn |
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* pdurbin |
throws his hands up ;) |
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whartung |
I like the github flow |
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whartung |
there's no reason you can't have the github flow as a part of the git-flow |
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whartung |
where you have a "golden/release" branch working along side the master branch |
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whartung |
because there's a difference between deployable, especially internally, and what's released to a client |
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whartung |
but i know here, we send "stable trunks" to clients all the time to get new fixes, even though we have releases |
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firebird1 |
hi |
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pdurbin |
whartung: you mean we can't all just develop on trunk? ;) |
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sfisque |
branches are for the weak |
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whartung |
heh -- actually WE do here :) |
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sfisque |
:P |
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whartung |
be bold, commit! and make your commits matter! |
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sfisque |
i don't always commit, but when i do.. i do it in trunk.... |
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whartung |
we seem to hate merging more than broken builds. |
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firebird1 |
custom generator for hibernate |
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sfisque |
i see that alot, which is sad nowadays. it's not like merging is tough with modern tools |
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whartung |
for small changes, merging is fine. Large changes, not so much. If your code is REALLY fine grained, merging is MUCH easier. Merging in XML sucks…that's just fact, XML files seem to give more conflicts than anything else. |
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semiosis |
pdurbin: github flow usually, some projects we have a modified github flow with a "production" branch. master gets automatically deployed to the staging server, production gets automatically deployed to production. only project admins can merge into production. |
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semiosis |
the only way to get into production is by merging master into it. gitlab helps us enforce this |
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ilhami |
Hey |
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ilhami |
anyone who uses Jersey here? |
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firebird1 |
i want to generate custom id like aa,ab,ac.... |
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pdurbin |
ok, I'll come back to you github-flow users with questions. thanks |
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pdurbin |
interesting: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1915166/how-to-get-the-insert-id-in-jdbc |
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