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IRC log for #javaee, 2013-11-24

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00:30 sfisque semiosis we use arquillian.  it automates bootstrapping the embedded container so injection, jndi lookup and all the ejb goodness works for unit/integration testing
00:31 semiosis sfisque: thx, i'll check that out.  i'm playing with atlassian clover right now and it's working much better than either jacoco or cobertura.
00:31 semiosis for one project anyway.  still seeing 0% coverage for the other project, not sure why
00:32 semiosis was hoping to find a way to get this working with open source stuff
00:33 semiosis but if clover is the only way i may try to get an open source license from atlassian
00:34 semiosis oh arquillian is open source
00:34 semiosis nice
00:35 semiosis not sure it will help me though
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05:17 sajjadg wow
05:17 sajjadg it seems that this channel has a cool bot
05:17 sajjadg :)
05:17 sajjadg it sent a msg about 9 hour ago when I left this channel :D
05:18 sfisque :-)
05:18 sajjadg so cool
05:19 sajjadg I was busy following the news about p5+1 and Iran agreement
05:19 sajjadg good news for Iranians, and other peace seekers
05:19 sfisque javaeebot lucky iran peace agreement news
05:19 javaeebot sfisque: http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/david-ignatius-backstage-brawl-over-a-nuclear-deal-with-iran/2013/11/21/82fa68da-52f3-11e3-9e2c-e1d01116fd98_story.html
05:20 sajjadg I hope nobody (specially Israeli guys and Arabs) tries to breaks it
05:21 sajjadg javaeebot, is kinda a long name. maybe a shorter and cooler name is better for her :)
05:21 javaeebot sajjadg: Error: "is" is not a valid command.
05:22 sfisque true, but "javaeebot" it is indicative of who "they" are
05:23 sajjadg who they are?!
05:23 sajjadg Kerry appeases Israel on Iran deal
05:23 sajjadg Obama welcomes Iran nuclear deal
05:23 sajjadg Zarif: Iran right to enrichment recognized
05:23 sajjadg http://www.presstv.ir/
05:23 sajjadg these are from Iranian news
05:23 sfisque "they" was referring to "javaeebot".  since it's not really a person, "they" is the proper pronoun
05:24 sajjadg they interpret what they want. and it's good to compare to what others say
05:24 sajjadg I mostly read RT. because it has different view compare to Iran and US&UK
05:26 sajjadg sfisque, I tough we use it for a single third person! javaeebot is not single?
05:27 sfisque aye, but i prefer "they" over "it" for "automata" :-)
05:28 sajjadg umm. interesting...
05:30 sajjadg at least I hope the outcome of this agreement and decrease of sanction against Iran be a better internet speed and less censorship :D
05:30 sfisque aye
05:30 sajjadg everybody think (thinks) about himself
05:30 sajjadg :P
05:44 sajjadg http://rt.com/news/israel-react-iran-deal-216/
06:34 * cem_ watching anime
06:44 sajjadg cem_, how old are you?
06:45 cem_ 14
06:45 sajjadg really?
06:45 sajjadg very good.
06:45 sajjadg which one are you watching?
06:47 cem_ naruto
06:47 sajjadg I just know few of them.
06:48 sajjadg death note!
06:48 sajjadg :)
06:48 sajjadg I don't watch anime but I see lots of people like them...I just don't realized why
06:48 sajjadg but I respect their taste
06:48 sajjadg cem_, where are you from bro?
06:48 cem_ sajjadg its an weekly episode
06:49 cem_ japan
06:49 sajjadg OK. you're in the heart of anime. :D
06:50 sajjadg I hear ruby on rails has many follower in japan. happy to see you in java channel
06:51 cem_ python and php too
06:55 sajjadg I;m coming from a C++ background and so I am more satisfied with Java than php, python and ruby
06:55 sajjadg I don't see them to be hard core :D
06:56 cem_ oh! never liked C++
06:57 cem_ and i dislike imperative :P
06:58 sajjadg what do you like then :D
06:58 sajjadg C++ is so cute. but so damn hard
06:58 cem_ functional
06:58 sajjadg really? functional?
06:59 sajjadg I don't know...
06:59 cem_ a failed func language is javascript
06:59 sajjadg I haven't tried them
06:59 sajjadg why.??!!! js is easy
06:59 sajjadg similar to c/c++ and java
07:00 cem_ what do you mean by easy
07:00 cem_ its soo stupid
07:00 cem_ and alot of buggy language
07:00 sajjadg stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????? you must be kidding
07:00 sajjadg it's a great lang
07:00 cem_ lol
07:01 Naros while javascript's syntax might be similar in nature to that of C/C++, it's quite a ways way from C/C++ on any other level.
07:01 sajjadg I am not too familiar with it. just basic things but I don't see any problem with it...really easy and sweet
07:02 cem_ sajjadg: hmmm learn the language and you will know
07:02 sajjadg Naros, I think it's python like C language :D
07:02 Naros On the surface it looks easy, but there are a lot of things you can do with Javascript and you'll notice its kinda klunky.
07:02 cem_ python more like java then c
07:02 sajjadg cem_, which part are you saying. I know part of it
07:02 sajjadg ?
07:03 cem_ which part means ?
07:03 sajjadg function? inheritance? polymorphism?
07:04 sajjadg Naros, I think so. and that's why we have lots of libraries and frameworks. to make them easy
07:04 cem_ its not OO and it failed to cover OO thru proto
07:05 sajjadg cem_, if you don't like JS then what do you use for client-side programming? dart!???!!
07:05 cem_ i left client side programming
07:05 Naros Most people, despite their dislike for JS use jQuery or equivalent libraries
07:06 sajjadg I'm learning angularJS
07:06 cem_ client side scripting :P
07:06 * Naros is embedding lua inside his game engine as we speak and pulling his hair out.
07:07 * cem_ built his own tools like jquery
07:07 sajjadg I hate client-side programming too. but I have no other choice. I'm a single programmer who should do a EE website! what should I do? I'm both the back and front guy :(
07:07 sajjadg CSS is my nightmare!
07:07 cem_ css easy
07:08 Naros CSS can be a nightmare if you try to get too fancy :P
07:08 sajjadg we can't come to an agreement like p5+1 and Iran did this morning. it takes time :D
07:08 sajjadg CSS has the most aweful syntax compare to html and js IMO
07:09 cem_ sajjadg: are you proffesional ? or student ?
07:09 Naros CSS syntax reminds me of creating lua tables :P
07:09 sajjadg cem_, both! I'm learning something and I know some other!
07:09 Naros or json objects to some level
07:09 sajjadg I know how to do a backend and in front end I'm kinda noob
07:10 cem_ backend means you write your server ?
07:10 cem_ sajjadg:
07:10 sajjadg cem_, I graduated 6 month ago. no longer a student now :(
07:10 cem_ :(
07:11 cem_ then working ?
07:11 sajjadg cem_, yeah by backend and server-side I mean backing server mainly with Java EE techs like JPA, EJB, JAX-RS, etc.
07:12 cem_ lol
07:12 sajjadg cem_, I should do a 2 year  mandatory military service and then I have the choice of working or studying. I probably choose study. I want to become a professor at a university. I love teaching
07:12 cem_ no idea on technology
07:13 cem_ thats nice
07:13 sajjadg Naros, game engine? with Java or ?
07:13 cem_ i like to be non professional
07:13 Naros C++
07:14 sajjadg cem_, I want to go abroad for study. and I need to do the military service in order to get a permission from gov. to go out of country
07:14 cem_ k
07:14 cem_ opengl ?
07:14 sajjadg Naros, great. are you alone? or have a team? big? small? 2d or 3d?
07:15 cem_ guess alone
07:15 Naros I'm working on it alone, it's a 3d engine.
07:18 sajjadg Naros, good. public or private?
07:19 sajjadg I like to see what stack you are using
07:20 Naros The engine's framework is all private written code leveraging FMOD for Audio and Ogre3D for rendering.
07:21 Naros Scripting I'm experimenting with Lua
07:21 Naros Goal is to expose the entire UI via Lua
07:21 sajjadg FMOD!
07:21 sajjadg good
07:22 sajjadg I wish you the bests
07:22 * cem_ no idea :) like to play tht game
07:23 Naros :)
07:23 sajjadg cem_, what do you know? what tech?
07:24 cem_ ?
07:26 * cem_ goes back; _ater
07:27 sajjadg cem_, have a great time bro
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