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sjmaple |
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radcortez |
hello guys |
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fell free to send in any questions :) |
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karstensrage |
spring repository has done a lot to reduce that stuff |
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radcortez |
send in any question you would like to ask Lukas |
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deadpool? |
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karstensrage |
yeah very good speaker |
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karstensrage |
not sure i agree that all this is a problem, repository for basic stuff, jdbcTemplate for direct or NamedQuery in hibernate |
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cdthompso1 |
pitch for JasperReports for developers? |
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karstensrage |
wow i love that sentiment |
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karstensrage |
so if we assume we all agree with him, is he suggesting we just query the db directly, how is this integrated into the standard web/CRUD app? |
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karstensrage |
i dont think any developer would have a problem with suits just writing their own queries instead of "shitty dashboards" |
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cdthompso1 |
i'm unsure what the recommendation is, if there is a requirement database results inside an app |
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karstensrage |
http://attackwithnumbers.com/the-laws-of-shitty-dashboard |
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cdthompso1 |
yup, lots of BI tools in the marketplace with semantic layers for user self-service |
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if java developers are the org's report authors, you're over-paying |
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cdthompso1 |
that's a great link. thanks for sharing |
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cdthompso1 |
this discussion reminds me of this solution: https://www.simple.com/engineering/building-analytics-at-simple |
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cdthompso1 |
i had a DBA friend one time that showed me one... |
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cdthompso1 |
;-) |
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cdthompso1 |
he is right that there is so much NoSQL hype that this fundamental discussion doesn't occur in many places |
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cdthompso1 |
obligatory chuck norris reference |
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karstensrage |
so what, stored procedures? |
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cdthompso1 |
that's what i was just writing. JPA 2.1 makes stored proc invocation easier |
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cdthompso1 |
but then you're back in the business of biz logic in a proprietary RDMBS |
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cdthompso1 |
our industry taught us to be database vendor agnostic for so long |
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karstensrage |
cdthompso1, lord howdy |
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karstensrage |
i mean at least for me, i do things in the db all the time directly |
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cdthompso1 |
thanks |
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