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please ask the questions to the panel here |
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oleg |
microprofile.io |
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oleg |
is the thing we're talking about |
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Hello again |
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johnament |
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:D |
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johnament |
glassfish.org/survey |
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johnament |
aka http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/3038537/91ade4bcd897 |
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mpasteven |
a survey! |
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johnament |
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/microprofile |
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johnament |
http://microprofile.io/ |
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mpasteven |
I hear no sound |
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mpasteven |
The echo is back =P |
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johnament |
mpasteven: when i spoke? |
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mpasteven |
I believe so |
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johnament |
:-( |
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mpasteven |
Microprofile makes me a bit confused though, naming wise, since I am reminded of Java Micro Edition |
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johnament |
Yeah. I suppose the name is somewhat related to "Web Profile" as well. Micro from microservices |
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mpasteven |
And Java SE's profiles |
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radcortez |
:D |
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mpasteven |
A question: Do the standard reference implementations have tests that are independent of the library that it is based on, basically java -classpath tests.jar:myimplementation.jar com.example.test.DoTheseTests foo bar baz ? |
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mpasteven |
That is, are the tests standalone and can be extracted as if the implementation it was included with never existed? |
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johnament |
Want that asked on air? |
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radcortez |
yea we will |
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mpasteven |
I started watching about 20 minutes ago |
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sec |
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mpasteven |
oh, I thought you said if you already said that |
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mpasteven |
Thanks |
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johnament |
bit.ly/microprofilepresentation |
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mpasteven |
Thinking about it, Java has a wide reach |
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From the very tiny to the rather large |
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mpasteven |
Smart cards to Java EE |
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johnament |
Its a robust platform. |
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mpasteven |
And they all can work together |
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brickpattern |
thanks gentlemen |
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johnament |
mpasteven: to answer your question, since we're out of time. right now, there is no true TCK. The sample app acts like it, when a vendor has their impl working they can raise a PR to add it. https://github.com/microprofile/microprofile-samples |
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I see, thanks |
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mpasteven |
Thanks for joining, all of you |
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mpasteven |
wow, I have been watching since 4 I believe |
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brickpattern |
Session #19 - Functional structures in Java |
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radcortez |
:D |
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johnament |
is this the one w/ steve? |
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imrel |
hello, tere |
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mpasteven |
hello |
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jclingan_redhat |
Howdy. Sorry for joining late. |
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jclingan_redhat |
Can answer any MicroProfile questions. |
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radcortez |
no worries |
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johnament |
Is it MicroProfile, Micro Profile, or Microprofile ? |
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radcortez |
mpasteven: had some questions |
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mpasteven |
johnament: yes |
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jclingan_redhat |
LOL. MicroProfile. |
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mpasteven |
My question was answered however |
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mpasteven |
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johnament |
A question: Do the standard reference implementations have tests that are independent of the library that it is based on, basically java -classpath tests.jar:myimplementation.jar com.example.test.DoTheseTests foo bar baz ? |
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mpasteven: to answer your question, since we're out of time. right now, there is no true TCK. The sample app acts like it, when a vendor has their impl working they can raise a PR to add it. https://github.com/microprofile/microprofile-samples |
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johnament |
Not sure if you want to add more to that John C |
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jclingan_redhat |
That's a good summary. The reference architecture and always-running services act as a TCK. |
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imrel |
slides were fine on stream |
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mpasteven |
I see the slides |
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mpasteven |
Pillarboxes he means I believe |
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jclingan_redhat |
This may change in the future. It will definitely change when a JSR is proposed, where a formal TCK will need to be created. |
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mpasteven |
Do you hope the TCKs are easy to get? |
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johnament |
I sure hope they become easier to gain access to. |
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mpasteven |
For some JSRs the TCKs require many hoops |
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johnament |
Between the impl licensing costs and the open source unfriendly licensing structure in the TCKs, it would be a shame if those continue to stay hard to get. |
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jclingan_redhat |
The plan is that any TCK we do will be done through the Eclipse Foundation under the Apache License. Still working on some details. |
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That would be good |
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johnament |
Just don't forget, any spec we bring into the umbrella needs to be accessible. For instance, I'm only "pretty sure" that JAX-RS works, since ASF doesn't have access to the JAX-RS spec for CXF. |
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mpasteven |
Some JSRs have open TCKs I believe, but the only one I know of is JSR 353 (JSON) |
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mpasteven |
I am pretty sure anyone can get that TCK |
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johnament |
Very few specs have open TCKs |
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johnament |
JSON, Bean Val, CDI, Batch |
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johnament |
may be one more |
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Bean Validation and CDI are licensed under Apache license. |
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jclingan_redhat |
Licensing is one reason to work on microservice-related JSRs first through MicroProfile, and then submit to JCP via Eclipse. Again, some details being worked out here. |
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We should talk through that when we know more. |
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johnament |
I'll be curious to see if eclipse accepts the licensing requirements oracle puts out there. |
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jclingan_redhat |
"Some details need to be worked out" :-) Dot i's, cross t's, etc. |
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jclingan_redhat |
But your point is taken. |
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mpasteven |
Some TCKs and such I believe are gone forever it seems |
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mpasteven |
Such as the older JSRs |
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johnament |
alright i gotta run |
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mpasteven |
cya, thanks again |
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johnament |
feel free to swing by the google group with any questions! |
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jclingan_redhat |
Gotta go myself. Family time! |
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mpasteven |
cya |
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mpasteven |
thanks |
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jclingan_redhat |
Good questions mpasteven. |
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Thanks |
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jclingan_redhat |
See you in the google group (hopefully). Bye! |
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mpasteven |
Cya |
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jclingan: Welcome back |
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LOL, just trying my native IRC client before I dropped off :-) |
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jclingan |
OK, really going now :-) |
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mpasteven |
irssi? |
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cya |
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(textual) |
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mpasteven |
About list reversing, the operation could actually be virtually reversed |
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A reversed ArrayList for example, could have O(1) reversal |
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With a private boolean field indicating the "reverse" state of the list |
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Inserting an entry at the end of a list which was reversed, really puts it at the start |
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mpasteven |
Queue<Foo> a = new ArrayList<Foo>(); |
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actually, ArrayDeque<>() |
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Since ArrayList is not a Queue |
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And if the List<> is internal to the queue, then internal use List<> could use the O(1) reversal operation |
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The only issue would be if an array is used, elements may have tobe moved over, so there could be LinkedList<> used |
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Or a kind of rope of arrays linked together |
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radcortez |
any questions guys? |
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mpasteven |
yes |
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mpasteven: I know you have one :D |
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mpasteven |
Should you implement kind of "hacks" to obtain faster speeds with specific operations? |
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Or would the risks outweight the benefits of it? |
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radcortez |
I'll relay it |
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brickpattern |
you referred about the libraries you would recommend |
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mpasteven |
Thanks |
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Wed Sep 28 01:55:21 UTC 2016 |
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Saif_Jordan |
This session was not the best |
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radcortez |
:( |
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mpasteven |
I liked it |
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mpasteven |
Thanks for answerinf |
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mpasteven |
g* |
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radcortez |
our pleasure |
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cuent |
Which session is live? |
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shelajev_ |
libraries that I mentioned: javaslang, pcollections, functional collections |
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mpasteven |
Currently America |
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mpasteven |
For data structures, it is about to end though |
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mpasteven |
shelajev_: thanks for the presentation |
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mpasteven |
I want a pizza |
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mpasteven |
Ship me one =P |
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mpasteven |
Well, I suppose I should be winding down now, I have been watching this since about 6:30 (~15.5 hours) |
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mpasteven |
Thanks again, cya |
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radcortez |
how |
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radcortez |
wow! |
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radcortez |
that's dedication! |
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radcortez |
thank you so much :) |
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radcortez |
rest! |
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mpasteven |
Had much free time today |
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radcortez |
cool |
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mpasteven |
I also wake up early before the sun-rises (at least now since it is winter, but not during the summer though) |
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Saif_Jordan |
Vjug is amazing idea :) |
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mpasteven |
well, fall |
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mpasteven |
technically |
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radcortez |
thank you Saif_Jordan :) |
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mpasteven |
radcortez: I missed the start though |
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mpasteven |
But they should be on YouTube already now, so I can always watch it when I get free time this week |
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mpasteven |
But, cya, thanks again |
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imrel |
whats the talk title |
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oleg |
Angular 2 in 2016 |
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oleg |
The Art of Angular in 2016 by Matt Raible |
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oleg |
this actually |
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imrel |
thanks |
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oleg |
if there are any questions, please ask them here, we'll try to forward them to the speaker |
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Saif_Jordan |
It would be a great session if I have some Angular experience :) |
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Saif_Jordan |
It is like magic |
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oleg |
it does seems quite magical when a person who actually know what they are doing shows it. But it seems quite understandable too! |
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I know you are a JHipster committer. Do you have any idea when JHipster will release a version with Angular 2? |
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FORM_DIRECTIVES are part of FormsModule now |
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oleg |
will ask Matt! |
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oleg |
the JHipster question |
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a3rHpa |
hello every one just wake up its 5 am here |
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a3rHpa |
i hope i didn't miss something interesting |
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oleg |
welcom a3rHpa! |
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a3rHpa |
thanks oleg |
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Saif_Jordan |
Question : The statistics that you shared at the beginning of your presentation showed that Angular is way ahead than others. Do you think that React will take over in the next few years ? |
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a3rHpa |
*clap*clap*clap |
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a3rHpa |
في عرب في الغرفة ؟؟ |
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Saif_Jordan |
yes |
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Saif_Jordan |
VIVA Angular :) |
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CraigD |
Good job Matt! |
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a3rHpa |
does any one have a link to all the virtual java user groups that participated |
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a3rHpa |
thanks Matt |
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oleg |
we don't have a public list as of right now :) but we know them all so we'll make a list and upload it on the website at some point after the conference |
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thanks |
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Saif_Jordan |
@Radcortez I am a big fan of your youtube channel :) Hope to see a live session for you soon |
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a3rHpa |
Hello |
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a3rHpa |
Stuart Marks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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pazfernando |
thanks Matt |
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if you have any questions, please put them here, we'll forward them to Stuart! |
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Doesn't it make more sense to have: Optional.ifPresent(//do something).orElse(// do something else) ? |
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Abhinay |
So my question is why does ifPresent() returns void instead of Optional? |
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radcortez |
I'll ask it |
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Abhinay |
Thank you :) |
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radcortez |
Abhinay: here is your answer :) |
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@radcortez Optional#ifPresent(Consumer) works perfectly :) .My question is that there are times when I want to do something when Optional has value and something else when it doesn't. Right now, I need to use "if(Optional.isPresent())..else..", there is no way to chain it in a single statement. Or is there? |
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Abhinay |
Rule#4 explains it :P |
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Abhinay: I totally understand. I think they are introducing that API in Java 9 |
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radcortez |
I'll ask |
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oleg |
is the sound ok for you ppl? |
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oleg |
I get a weird echi |
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Abhinay |
nope |
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robchurch |
no, there's some nasty feedback |
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oleg |
echo |
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oleg |
will ask |
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robchurch |
just within the last ~3 mins |
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Abhinay |
Stuart sounds like Dark Vadar :P |
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oleg |
ahhaha |
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oleg |
do you have any questions |
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robchurch |
@sjmarks: great talk |
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robchurch |
@smarks even |
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a3rHpa |
thanks Stuart *clap*clap*clap* |
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Abhinay |
Superb :D |
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Abhinay |
Thank you stuart! |
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Saif_Jordan |
Clap Clap Clap |
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smarks |
You're welcome! |
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smarks |
Will post slides shortly. |
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radcortez |
thank you smarks :) |
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smarks |
Slides posted on my blog: https://stuartmarks.wordpress.com/2016/09/27/vjug24-session-on-optional/ |
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oleg |
thank you Stuart! |
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Abhinay |
ty |
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oleg |
if you have questions! we'll be happy to ask Laurent |
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karstensrage |
is it a little blurry for anyone else? |
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DestinyAwaits |
try max resolution |
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DestinyAwaits |
720p |
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DestinyAwaits |
nope |
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oleg |
can you please try making the quality higher using the youtube cog |
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DestinyAwaits |
heh.. :) |
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oleg |
last minute questions? |
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maryg |
how does this compared with Akka? |
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oleg |
good q |
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oleg |
will ask |
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maryg |
thanks |
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DestinyAwaits |
Thanks for the session |
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a3rHpa |
thanks |
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maryg |
thank you Laurent |
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a3rHpa |
thanks *clap*clap*clap* |
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DestinyAwaits |
Again I don't win a IntelliJ Idea License.. :( |
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karstensrage |
thank you so much, that was really great, i really am looking forward to trying out couchbase |
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maryg |
are there more license raffles left? |
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DestinyAwaits |
Have is missed anything? Do I have to register anywhere to be lucky.. :( |
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karstensrage |
whats next? |
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DestinyAwaits |
JetBrains c'mon be generous when you distribute licenses.. :P |
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a3rHpa |
see you |
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maryg |
I think free Jetbrains licenses should be given to those of us who have watched the most sessions! |
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DestinyAwaits |
I win.. :P |
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maryg |
Are you watching all 24? |
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DestinyAwaits |
Yes.. Season 7.. Completed.. :P |
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DestinyAwaits |
:) |
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DestinyAwaits |
Not all but most of them.. :) |
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maryg |
Cool :) |
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DestinyAwaits |
Anyone listening.. :P |
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DestinyAwaits |
hehe.. No harm in trying.. |
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DestinyAwaits |
gRPC? Google RPC? |
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karstensrage |
i really appreciate the VirtualJug, you guys are awesome |
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karstensrage |
here in SF it feels like everyone is obsessed with JS |
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karstensrage |
so I feel kind of alone in my love for Java |
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DestinyAwaits |
I'm looking forward to the next session.. http://www.grpc.io/about/ |
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karstensrage |
this cutting edge stuff is so compelling in that the future of java is full of exciting stuff |
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karstensrage |
olbpetersson, missed it this year |
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karstensrage |
i was at the ansible conference earlier this year |
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a3rHpa |
yes karstensrage Java have avery strong community |
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DestinyAwaits |
Lie.. No one is monitoring the IRC.. |
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karstensrage |
haha |
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a3rHpa |
hahaaa |
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DestinyAwaits |
hehe |
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karstensrage |
yeah me too been finding some bugs and fixing them |
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ldoguin |
I am reading, and I would be happy to talk about my dislike of JS as well... |
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* karstensrage |
becomes BFF's with ldoguin |
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karstensrage |
yup |
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DestinyAwaits |
No one is monitoring the IRC and there might be a war breakout.. :P |
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ldoguin |
Still in SF. France on Friday :) |
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Habska |
sweet, after a good nigth sleep the vjug24 is online!! |
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radcortez |
:D |
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karstensrage |
SOAP |
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DestinyAwaits |
Jasmine? |
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HarmeetSingh |
@oleg i think you need expresso :P |
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HarmeetSingh |
Hatts of to you guys, for you great efforts |
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* DestinyAwaits |
beg to differ no one is monitoring the IRC.. :P |
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karstensrage |
if anyone is interested in the best espresso in SF i know all the good places |
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DestinyAwaits |
karstensrage: Google Maps? |
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HarmeetSingh |
thanks to @vjug |
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radcortez |
oleg looks tired :D |
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oleg |
people, please concentrate on the session :) |
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oleg |
Ray is live! :) |
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oleg |
my looks are secondary |
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oleg |
well, now at least |
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a3rHpa |
ok !!! |
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HarmeetSingh |
ok |
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Biju |
Is optional follows Null Object pattern? |
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DestinyAwaits |
protobuf |
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DestinyAwaits |
heh.. oleg Well said.. :) |
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oleg |
if you have questions, please put them here |
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HarmeetSingh |
GRPC is used instead of REST ? |
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oleg |
good question :) I don't think so myself, GRPC is what's on the wire |
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oleg |
REST is about representing things as resources |
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oleg |
but I'll ask Ray |
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HarmeetSingh |
thanks @oleg |
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oleg |
I might be talking nonsense :) it's been a long day |
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HarmeetSingh |
only 1:30 hour left |
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karstensrage |
what are .proto files modelled after, not seeen that format before? |
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DestinyAwaits |
oleg: Quick Question.. As he enabled option java_multiple_files and the files that protobuf generates must not be modified so what is benefit or reason for allowing to generate multiple files.. and does that multiple files generation means multiple files per message class? |
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GRPC also have async request support ? |
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oleg |
will ask them in closer to the end, I've copied to the list of qs |
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HarmeetSingh |
this example is used using java, how IDE support int64 type?\ |
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HarmeetSingh |
this is not in java ? |
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a3rHpa |
yes i think the same HarmeetSingh |
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oleg |
ha! ASync Q is answered ) |
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oleg |
I htink |
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HarmeetSingh |
This is pretty same as RxJava |
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ldoguin |
yep that totally looks familiar :D |
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DestinyAwaits |
oleg: Another question.. Why its heavily using only Builder Pattern |
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HarmeetSingh |
what security is used for securing our GRPC call ? |
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DestinyAwaits |
but what is the motivation behind using the builder heavily.. What benefits we achieve? |
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karstensrage |
its fluent |
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HarmeetSingh |
yes :) |
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karstensrage |
you dont have to worry about order of arguements |
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DestinyAwaits |
you think that is mostly the only motivation they had to use it.. ? |
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karstensrage |
it for complex instantiation where ordering of arguments would be a mess |
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DestinyAwaits |
they can instead create factory classes and via Reflection do things |
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DestinyAwaits |
am just saying |
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DestinyAwaits |
well karstensrage you're quoting from "Joshua Bloch" book "Effective Java" |
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DestinyAwaits |
:) |
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HarmeetSingh |
yep :) |
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karstensrage |
well its apropos look at how he configured the ManagedChannel, much better than an argument list |
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DestinyAwaits |
karstensrage: am not denying anything but is it the only motivation.. ? |
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robchurch |
question: is deadline propagation to child calls auto-magical, or do we need to do some work in the service to chain them together, and can we inspect/override the deadline being passed through? |
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DestinyAwaits |
I wanted to know if there are some other reasons for the same |
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shelajev_ |
good Q! robchurch |
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karstensrage |
DestinyAwaits, i think patterns like builder are ok for the sole motivation if you have complex instantiation with lots of options, |
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DestinyAwaits |
ok |
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karstensrage |
its sort of a philosophical argument to just "do the right thing" but that might not be reasonable |
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karstensrage |
so once you allow configuration of the object, you might as well do it fluently |
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shelajev_ |
love these demos which look so magical |
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shelajev_ |
it's a professional at work! |
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shelajev_ |
pleasure to watch |
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HarmeetSingh |
GRPC is also based on Non-Blocking like CompletableFuture in java 8 ? |
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sjmaple |
morning :) |
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radcortez |
morning |
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HarmeetSingh |
welcome @sjmaple |
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a3rHpa |
you missed Stuart Marks |
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Praeterii |
hello |
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DestinyAwaits |
sjmaple: A very Good Morning to you as well.. :) |
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karstensrage |
reminds me of xjc |
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DestinyAwaits |
Thanks for asking.. olbpetersson |
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DestinyAwaits |
oleg: Thanks for asking |
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robchurch |
another question: one advantage of HTTP is that we can tcpdump it and look at what's going on over the wire. with a binary protocol like protobuffers, what are our options for debugging interactions between services on the network? |
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karstensrage |
great question robchurch |
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karstensrage |
its binary so i dont know if looking at it would be interesting |
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DestinyAwaits |
debugging is difficult.. The errors are understandable.. |
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karstensrage |
awesome talk RAY!!!! |
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DestinyAwaits |
one more session in next vjug24.. |
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robchurch |
really useful answer (and really good talk); thanks ray |
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imrel |
good morning |
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sjmaple |
and it's Josh! |
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HarmeetSingh |
this is really an amazing session |
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DestinyAwaits |
that is it? |
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Josh |
how do i join this awesomeness? |
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karstensrage |
thats it |
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DestinyAwaits |
done? |
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DestinyAwaits |
:( |
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karstensrage |
one more session |
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DestinyAwaits |
+1 |
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sjmaple |
@Josh see DM on twitter :) |
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karstensrage |
josh https://virtualjug.com/vjug24/ |
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sjmaple |
you're Josh Long, right? :) |
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karstensrage |
Guest64089, https://virtualjug.com/vjug24/ |
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Guest64089 |
yeah |
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HarmeetSingh |
@oleg you need some rest |
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HarmeetSingh |
:) |
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robchurch |
can someone get oleg some coffee |
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DestinyAwaits |
Why am not getting noticed.. for IntelliJ Idea license? Really? Do I forgot to subsrcibe somewhere??? |
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maryg |
thanks Ray |
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DestinyAwaits |
:( |
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a3rHpa |
thanks Ray |
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DestinyAwaits |
Thanks for the session |
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a3rHpa |
*clap*clap*clap* |
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Guest64089 |
i see no DM :( |
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karstensrage |
has oleg been hosting the entire 24 hours? |
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oleg |
nope, just the last couple of hours :) |
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DestinyAwaits |
nope |
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maryg |
simon did the earlier sessions |
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oleg |
thanks for caring about me people! :) |
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DestinyAwaits |
haha |
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oleg |
it's amazing to be a part of this awesome community :) |
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imrel |
Oleg \o/ |
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maryg |
Oleg, do you work for Zero Turnaround too? |
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maryg |
and yeah, great effort! |
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DestinyAwaits |
yes |
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oleg |
maryg, yeah, I am |
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oleg |
a developer advocate there |
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maryg |
cool! |
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oleg |
ping me on twitter @shelajev for the details :D |
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oleg |
shameless plug, sorry not sorry ) |
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DestinyAwaits |
lucky people surround by Java all day learning.. :) |
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maryg |
thumbs up! |
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DestinyAwaits |
hey make it vjug24/7 |
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HarmeetSingh |
great effort of all @vjug team |
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DestinyAwaits |
+1 |
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HarmeetSingh |
you guys make the whole 24Hr amazing |
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DestinyAwaits |
HarmeetSingh: Bas karo sir rulaoge kya.. :P |
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HarmeetSingh |
lolz |
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sjmaple |
OMG! vJUG24/7 |
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imrel |
how one exactly can is vjug member? |
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sjmaple |
meetup.com/virtualjug |
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sjmaple |
http://meetup.com/virtualjug |
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a3rHpa |
https://virtualjug.com/vjug24-jugs/ |
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robchurch |
@sjmaple: that enthusiasm is sleep deprivation and when it wears off, you'll be issuing all sorts of disclaimers about never-ending events |
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sjmaple |
that last link from a3rHpais |
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sjmaple |
is actually something else |
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maryg |
good morning sjmaple |
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a3rHpa |
i thought he is head of an java user group |
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a3rHpa |
*a |
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HarmeetSingh |
good morning @josh |
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DestinyAwaits |
It's not possible 24/7 still |
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DestinyAwaits |
can't control emotions.. :P |
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sjmaple |
morning maryg! |
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DestinyAwaits |
Josh.. Please do vjug for Spring projects.. |
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DestinyAwaits |
This one only won't help.. :( |
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imrel |
dat bird |
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oleg |
rofl! dat bird! |
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HarmeetSingh |
I have this book in my todo list |
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DestinyAwaits |
I like Chinese and Hindi.. He wrote the name in 3 languages. :) |
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DestinyAwaits |
HarmeetSingh: As for a giveaway.. :P |
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DestinyAwaits |
no more wishlists |
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DestinyAwaits |
:P |
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shelajev_ |
if youhave questions to Josh,please post them her! |
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DestinyAwaits |
shelajev_: want him to give sessions on spring.. Live coding sessions |
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shelajev_ |
this is not sleep deprivation, my laptop was heavily influenced by coke I spilled on it. Spaces are hard now |
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DestinyAwaits |
lol |
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sjmaple |
olbpetersson: :) |
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karstensrage |
hahahahaha |
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karstensrage |
brilliant dig |
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robchurch |
zing |
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ldoguin |
could not have sait it better.... |
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DestinyAwaits |
720p video getting stuck.. exhausted my data.. :( |
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DestinyAwaits |
IDE matters.. Idea ftw |
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DestinyAwaits |
I used it |
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maryg |
me 2 |
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Praeterii |
me 2 |
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DestinyAwaits |
man he is coding fast.. |
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antrant |
I'm using eclipse :( |
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imrel |
thats what happens when you are tired |
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DestinyAwaits |
space |
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DestinyAwaits |
space allowed in between generics? |
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oleg |
yeah, they are ok |
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oleg |
will ask the JavaEE question if we have time :P |
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sjmaple |
hey, so vJUG24 has been amazing - better than I could have ever imagined. There are key people, without whom this simply wouldn't have been possible - MASSIVE THANKS to shelajev_, radcortez and ivan_stefanov. I can't tell you how amazing these guys are and they've worked really hard to make this possible - Please thank them! :D |
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imrel |
is it worth learning javaEE today? |
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karstensrage |
yes |
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Praeterii |
sure |
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a3rHpa |
sure |
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a3rHpa |
في عرب في الغرفة؟؟ |
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DestinyAwaits |
Thank you all for all the hard work.. 24 hrs straight is not an easy task at all. Salute to all of you.. :) |
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HarmeetSingh |
lolz |
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karstensrage |
that is freaking brilliant |
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karstensrage |
is that poor man's zookeeper? |
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DestinyAwaits |
haha.. Question.. How can he type so fast.. Really Great to see a live coding like he is doing... |
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karstensrage |
better than twitch |
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DestinyAwaits |
is he typing fast or there is a delay in stream .. :P |
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imrel |
well he types faster than i think, im out of job soon |
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DestinyAwaits |
lol |
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karstensrage |
hes probably done this hundreds of times |
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DestinyAwaits |
Can he take me as his student.. :) |
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Praeterii |
its easy to type fast when you know what are you going to do |
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Praeterii |
but typing like that and still talking to us? Its really something |
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imrel |
restart? doesnt use jrebel ;) |
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DestinyAwaits |
haha |
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robchurch |
question: does an app have to be full-on spring boot in order to take advantage of things like the service discovery and configuration decentralisation that josh has been demoing? |
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oleg |
robchurch, noted will ask |
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robchurch |
for instance, if i have a conventional spring app in a WAR, can i start to use those things without changing around a bunch of spring contexts/context initialisation? |
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oleg |
ask about the json pretty printing :) |
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HarmeetSingh |
he have browser plugin for json |
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HarmeetSingh |
play-framework and reactive-mongo |
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robchurch |
now he's just showing off :) |
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HarmeetSingh |
:P |
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HarmeetSingh |
yes @olbpetersson @EBeans is similar to JPA, but EBean follow DDD approch |
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HarmeetSingh |
spring-books is just a packed package for design web-application, without any configuration management |
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ldoguin |
well spring-data-couchbase is much easier than JPA |
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ldoguin |
but then, not usabe 'inmemory' |
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ldoguin |
less boilerplate to write the code, but you have to handle your own DB instance |
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ldoguin |
spring-data-rest is amazing |
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HarmeetSingh |
hmm |
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DestinyAwaits |
Add my name to the list as well.. :P |
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martinr_1 |
I just woke up in the EMEA region. Is it already possible to (re)view Stuart Mark's talk? |
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Abhinay |
@martinr_1 I would say yes |
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martinr_1 |
@olbpetersson are you Stockholm based, maybe? |
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DestinyAwaits |
He is Damn Good.. :) |
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HarmeetSingh |
these are few ? |
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martinr_1 |
Are you maybe Patricia's husband? |
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martinr_1 |
It would be a small world. :) |
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oleg |
Josh, can you please look at the robchurch's question about the normal spring MVC app starting using the spring boot magic |
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oleg |
robchurch, can you please ping Josh on twitter: @starbuxman |
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oleg |
maybe he's not here |
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oleg |
sorry, ran out of time :) |
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DestinyAwaits |
oleg: Tell him I am his biggest fan.. Rigth now.. |
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oleg |
I'm surprised we managed not to actually run over given the span of the conference |
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DestinyAwaits |
Tell my real name.. Karan no /me |
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DestinyAwaits |
DestinyAwaits |
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a3rHpa |
thanks |
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HarmeetSingh |
Thank to you guys |
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mimic47 |
Should be monthly |
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robchurch |
@oleg i'll drop him a quick email, thanks |
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a3rHpa |
في عرب في الغرف؟؟ |
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maryg |
Thanks! Awesome event!! |
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Luigi |
Thank you guys, it was huge! |
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Praeterii |
thanks |
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ldoguin |
Thanks! |
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a3rHpa |
*clap*clap*clap* |
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christmo |
thanks |
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antrant |
Thank you! |
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robchurch |
thanks everyone |
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rolios |
Thanks! have a good night ;) |
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mimic47 |
Respect! |
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HarmeetSingh |
clap for all |
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a3rHpa |
thanks everyone |
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oleg |
question: does an app have to be full-on spring boot in order to take advantage of things like the service discovery and configuration decentralisation that josh has been demoing? |
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oleg |
that was robchurch's question |
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christmo |
amazing |
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DestinyAwaits |
that is it? |
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starbuxman |
yes it should be a Spring Boot app, but if ur using Spring then u need only add @SpringBootApplication :-) |
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DestinyAwaits |
Josh Long Am ur biggest fan right now.. :) |
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DestinyAwaits |
haha |
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DestinyAwaits |
ALL GONE.. :( |
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robchurch |
...because spring boot will back off from most things when it sees them in the existing contexts? |
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DestinyAwaits |
starbuxman: Josh am your biggest fan right now after the session do you have videos on Spring projects on web like you did this one..?? |
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DestinyAwaits |
he's gone |
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radcortez |
thank you so much guys! |
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radcortez |
reach him on twitter @starbuxman |
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DestinyAwaits |
radcortez: hmm.. I'll try. Thanks.. :) |
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martinr_1 |
I just woke up in the EMEA region. Is it already possible to (re)view Stuart Mark's talk? I can only go back 2 hours in time on the live stream. |
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DestinyAwaits |
martinr_1: Use this link.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQbqNb77NDU |
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martinr_1 |
@DestinyAwaits thanks |
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DestinyAwaits |
welcome |
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maryg |
Lol I guess at least a few of us are still here to savor the "sweet after-taste" of the event :) |
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martinr_1 |
@DestinyAwaits Sorry to inform you, but the link you sent goes to the EMEA recordings, not the Amerikas, the link to the Amerikas is removed according to the VJUG24 schedule page. |
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oleg |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDvH15PffoE this is AMERICAS |
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oleg |
https://youtu.be/fDvH15PffoE?t=14432 this is Stuart Marks |
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starbuxman |
this was so much fun |
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martinr_1 |
@oleg thanks, got it |
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oleg |
https://youtu.be/fDvH15PffoE?t=25237 this is Josh :) |
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oleg |
good night everyone! |
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starbuxman |
hey DestinyAwaits, thanks SO much for the kind words! I'm glad you enjoyed it. |
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DestinyAwaits |
starbuxman: You have more videos on youtube? |
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shelajev_ |
tons~ |
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shelajev_ |
just on vjug Josh has like a dozen! |
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shelajev_ |
jk, 3 I think |
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starbuxman |
yah, im out there XD also, check out spring.io/video for other great content (after you've watched the numerous amazing vJUG talks!) |
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starbuxman |
olbpetersson yah - basically, there are numerous fine alternatives to JPA, like JOOQ or Spring Data for the various NoSQL technologis |
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starbuxman |
robchurch just add `@SpringBootApplication` and you'll get most of the way there if you have an existing Spring app. |
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DestinyAwaits |
the thing is you have added so many things for the purpose of demonstrating but its no good for n00bs.. I thought to have something to watch that each Spring project covers seperatly then mixin will do |
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starbuxman |
spring.io/guides |
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starbuxman |
i started the talk w/ mention of that *specifically* for n00bs DestinyAwaits :) |
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DestinyAwaits |
They don't have videos that is the point |
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martinr_1 |
Good night oleg, meanwhile, here in EMEA it's time for breakfast :) (BRB) |
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DestinyAwaits |
hmm.. |
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starbuxman |
olbpetersson thanks - i'm glad you dig the Spring Boot support for microservices :) |
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DestinyAwaits |
how spring mvc fetch the object instead of calling req.getParameter call |
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starbuxman |
olbpetersson depends on what u r trying to do. I beleive it's critical to learn the Servlet API. I wouldn't recommend learning all of Spring, either, though! OTOH, it's always good to learn so it's never a bad idea to study if you can. |
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DestinyAwaits |
why vJUG24 - AMERICAS region talk is only 2 hrs where is the rest of it |
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DestinyAwaits |
starbuxman: I recently got this question I don't see it on web.. Spring MVC how it fetches the Object instead of fetching values calling request.getParameter |
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starbuxman |
Praeterii I'm glad u dig the typing and talking thing! Check out the good Dr. Venkat Subramaniam for a real tour-de-force live-coding session |
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DestinyAwaits |
and follow up how I can share data from one bean to another.. that comes in request. |
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starbuxman |
HarmeetSingh glad you dig Spring Boot! |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
I hope have not missed anything.. |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
starbuxman: you still around? |
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starbuxman |
hi DestinyAwaits im here. let's see |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
Spring MVC - How to construct Object directly from request rather than calling the request.getParameter method each time |
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starbuxman |
you can use @RequestParam ("foo") for a request param |
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starbuxman |
@RequestMapping(..)void handle (@RequestParam String foo){ } |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
so in that case the class Foo will be constructed? No marshalling or unmarshelling needed? |
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starbuxman |
Spring will apply a converter to it. it does marshalling, that only works for primitive types |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
for ADT? |
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starbuxman |
if you want a more complex object, look at how Spring does object models |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
so that is called object models.. |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
gone crazy looking for it |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
thanks.. |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
another one the request parameters how it can shared across multiple beans |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
not sure if that is calling request chaining or something else.. |
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starbuxman |
theyre called model attributes |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
great |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
thx |
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starbuxman |
void handle(@ModelAttribute("billing") Address billingAddress ){ ... } |
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starbuxman |
(that should have a @RequestMapping) |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
really helpful.. Thanks a ton! |
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starbuxman |
im not sure what you mean share request parameters across multiple beans |
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starbuxman |
whatre u trying to acheive? |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
I hope you can be available on IRC then twitter.. Though am following you for good time now.. :) |
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starbuxman |
twitter's where i usually am :) |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
starbuxman: I recently got interviewed and these two questions comes my way.. I failed to find answers but God helped me find you.. :) |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
I didn't clear just bcoz I don't have done work on Spring MVC |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
:( |
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starbuxman |
well, welcome to the world of Spring MVC :) i hope this helps. |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
very much.. any good book you think help me learn fast? |
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starbuxman |
Spring Boot in Action by Craig Walls |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
I will look for videos though but anything that really helps me counter such wierd questions |
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starbuxman |
and my book, Cloud Native Java, is aaaaalmost done but not quite |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
ok... Great.. Thanks for the references also |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
I can't thank you enough |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
last question |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
not related to any tech.. I see almost everywhere you write your first name in Hindi? Any connection to India? |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
I asked bcoz am from India |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
:) |
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starbuxman |
jai hind! |
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starbuxman |
i love india |
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starbuxman |
so many great people, food, friends and memories. i go there at least once a year. sometimes more :) |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
lol... Don't tell me you can really speak hindi.. |
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starbuxman |
no, i wish i did, but i don't.. (yet) :( |
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starbuxman |
such a wonderful developer community too |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
When you visit New Delhi do let me know it will be an honor to meet you |
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starbuxman |
alrighty! thanks very much! |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
starbuxman: here you go.. https://twitter.com/kkhosla_ |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
Hope to see you soon.. |
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starbuxman |
cool! ping me on twitter if u have questions one and all |
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starbuxman |
thanks for your time and good talking with you DestinyAwaits1 and everyone else |
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starbuxman |
im going to sign off now |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
cya |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
GoodBye |
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starbuxman |
ping me on twitter as http://twitter.com/starbuxman |
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DestinyAwaits1 |
sure |
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starbuxman |
cheers |
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I am already follwoing you |
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What do you think was the best session? |
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mpasteven |
Hello |
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pdurbin |
mpasteven: hi |
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martinr_1 |
Hi |
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martinr_1 |
sup? |
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mpasteven |
Searching YouTube |
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mpasteven |
I do wonder if the videos are going to be split from their 8 hour formats |
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pdurbin |
youtube lets you bookmark timestamps |
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pazfernando |
hey... hi everyone |
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pazfernando |
thanks for you 24 hours effort |
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I agree with pazfernando! Thanks for your effort! |
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pazfernando |
hello. what about generic types? |
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pazfernando |
what about generic types? |
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ishanpandya |
can you please be more loud? |
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pazfernando |
could you explain pls posible problems with generac types? |
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examples? |
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