| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:03 |
|
pdurbin |
sivoais: I use http://plantuml.sourceforge.net at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/master/doc/Architecture/auth-classes.sh to produce https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/master/doc/Architecture/auth-classes.png |
| 00:03 |
|
pdurbin |
and there are some other plantuml drawings here: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/master/doc/Architecture/auth.md |
| 00:04 |
|
pdurbin |
see also http://www.mbarsinai.com/blog/2014/01/12/draw-more-work-less/ |
| 00:05 |
|
pdurbin |
which reminds me... first post! [codecraft] Welcome, everyone! - http://or8.net/pipermail/codecraft/2015-July/000000.html |
| 00:06 |
|
sivoais |
saw that earlier! :-) |
| 00:07 |
|
sivoais |
yeah, paper or an outline is my usual way of doing things, but I want to mix things up a bit :-) |
| 00:07 |
|
sivoais |
ooh, a paper about mailing lists! |
| 00:08 |
|
sivoais |
nice find |
| 00:14 |
|
pdurbin |
at http://projects.iq.harvard.edu/dataverse-community-meeting someone asked if anyone remembered how great Haystack was ( http://haystack.csail.mit.edu ) and that's how I found it |
| 00:15 |
|
sivoais |
ah! I read some of the Haystack research before. Really good stuff. |
| 00:15 |
|
pdurbin |
they mention IRC at the end of the paper :) |
| 00:15 |
|
sivoais |
<http://simile-widgets.org/> and <http://nb.mit.edu/welcome> are the ones I've been tracking mostly |
| 00:16 |
|
pdurbin |
oh yeah, simile inspired me to work on what became a perl module: timelines from GEDCOM files - nntp.perl.org - http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.gedcom/2008/08/msg57.html |
| 00:17 |
|
sivoais |
:-D |
| 00:20 |
|
sivoais |
Hmm, I'll write up a short para for that thread on just one of my future projects |
| 00:29 |
|
pdurbin |
sivoais: drop a link when you're through |
| 00:50 |
|
sivoais |
and here's the link <http://or8.net/pipermail/codecraft/2015-July/000003.html> |
| 00:55 |
|
sivoais |
hmmph, LanguageTool doesn't catch missing words as well as I would have hoped |
| 00:57 |
|
pdurbin |
sivoais: very nice post |
| 00:58 |
|
sivoais |
I was going to go into DCI, but I haven't read through the entire idea yet <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data,_context_and_interaction> |
| 00:59 |
|
sivoais |
it is made by the same person that created the MVC pattern |
| 01:00 |
|
sivoais |
It uses the idea of traits to build a new approach to architechture |
| 01:01 |
|
bear |
this makes me think of an old bot feature I saw - you could bookmark log markers and associate them with mailing list or urls to allow irc conversation to be linked to external resources |
| 01:01 |
|
sivoais |
they have a mailing list too and I found this post on Worse is Better interesting <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/object-composition/Ru9hm750x0U> |
| 01:10 |
|
pdurbin |
bear: I guess I just drop links to whatever I'm talking about |
| 01:11 |
|
pdurbin |
sivoais: perl people seem to love traits: http://blogs.perl.org/users/philip_durbin/2011/05/john-siracusa-discusses-perl-on-hypercritical.html |
| 01:14 |
|
sivoais |
hehe, it's true! I think they are a beautiful solution for modelling ideas. I used to avoid OO because of inheritance having problems that I couldn't quite articulate, but with traits everything clear. |
| 01:14 |
|
sivoais |
*became clear |
| 01:16 |
|
pdurbin |
well, if you hear about traits outside of Perl, lemme know |
| 01:16 |
|
sivoais |
Scala and Groovy have them! |
| 01:16 |
|
sivoais |
Groovy actually got traits quite recently. As did PHP. |
| 01:17 |
|
pdurbin |
oh? |
| 01:17 |
|
pdurbin |
searchbot: lucky scala traits |
| 01:17 |
|
searchbot |
pdurbin: http://www.scala-lang.org/node/126 |
| 01:18 |
|
sivoais |
A quick way to think of traits is decorator-pattern-made-easy. |
| 01:18 |
|
pdurbin |
hmm, page 20 of http://www.slideshare.net/MichaelBarSinai/invitation-to-scala . I guess I forgot |
| 01:21 |
|
pdurbin |
I definitely went to that talk: https://lists.iq.harvard.edu/pipermail/techtalkfollowup/2013-October/000010.html |
| 01:21 |
|
sivoais |
applying traits at runtime is my favourite. You can add a trait to an individual instance of an object. |
| 17:21 |
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