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sivoais |
MS has made their compiler for C# open source (Apache 2.0) <https://roslyn.codeplex.com/> |
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sivoais |
and a bunch of .NET |
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sivoais |
some discussion at HN <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7524082> |
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pdurbin |
sivoais: interesting. I just added a comment to https://plus.google.com/+PhilipDurbin/posts/XuGaoFRtxPk |
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I wonder if this is new/related: http://vagrantbox.msopentech.com |
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pdurbin |
via http://irclog.perlgeek.de/crimsonfu/2014-04-03#i_8538936 |
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aditsu |
pdurbin: hey, it looks like you and your bot(s) are not present in my channel anymore, what about the logging? |
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aditsu: excellent question. I was wondering when someone would notice. I was staring at my list of channels last night and I guess I had Spring Cleaning on the brain... so far I haven't been getting a ton of value out of ##friendlyjava (apart from our initial chats over the weekend) |
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so I don't know... I'm conflicted about it |
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pdurbin |
aditsu: sorry, gotta feed the kids breakfast etc. I'd love to talk more about it over the weekend or whenever |
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aditsu |
pdurbin: well, not sure what "ton of value" you were expecting, anyway, should I remove the notice about logging then? |
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aditsu |
anyway, thanks for bringing some people in |
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aditsu |
I've been busy these days so couldn't chat much |
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pdurbin |
aditsu: yeah, I'm super busy too. If you want, I can send the bots back in. We could consider it an overnight outage. :) ... and figure out the future of the channel later... I don't mean to flake out on you... and you're right that the /topic should be accurate. |
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aditsu |
pdurbin: honestly I care more about you being there than the bots, but it's up to you of course |
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aditsu: aw. :) ... and for my part my thought is "well, aditsu is in #sourcefu so I'll just talk to him there so some other folks I know and like can see it as well" |
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pdurbin |
anyway, spring cleaning. I'm tellin' ya... that's what's on my mind :) |
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bikes to work |
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aditsu |
s'ok :) later then |
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pdurbin |
aditsu: have you ever used http://www.hsqldb.org ? |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: ah, you're an HSQLDB guy, apparently: http://irclog.greptilian.com/javaee/2013-11-08#i_40084 |
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aditsu |
pdurbin: no, but I played a bit with its replacement (H2) |
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pdurbin |
huh. replacement |
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pdurbin |
searchbot: lucky h2 database |
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pdurbin: http://www.h2database.com/ |
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pdurbin |
aditsu: do you agree with "Every deveroper should be running some in memory database like HSQLDB as part of the project for development and testing then move the a full size database for unit testing, staging and production." -- http://java.dzone.com/articles/kiss-mysql-goodbye-development\ |
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aditsu |
deveroper? :) |
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pdurbin |
heh |
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pdurbin |
[sic] |
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pdurbin |
via http://www.hsqldb.org/web/usagelinks.html |
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aditsu |
anyway, I don't agree |
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pdurbin |
so I should just stick with postgres in dev? |
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pdurbin |
and what about customers evaluating your software? |
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http://www.jtrac.info/doc/html/installation.html ... "Once you have Java you can start using JTrac right away because you do not need to configure a web-application server or a database. JTrac embeds both of these (Jetty and HSQLDB) to make it easy for you to evaluate JTrac." |
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if the software is designed and tested to work with multiple database servers, then it's fine |
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aditsu |
but you can't just randomly take an application that uses pg and simply put it on H2 or HSQL |
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pdurbin |
well, sure |
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pdurbin |
I'm talking about a rewrite |
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pdurbin |
http://thedata.org/blog/major-dataverse-release-coming-spring-2014 |
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aditsu |
if the application should work with both databases, then use both in development |
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pdurbin |
yeah |