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pdurbin |
whartung sfisque: you might enjoy this rant about Java EE: https://javabot.evanchooly.com/logs/%23%23java/2015-10-26 |
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pdurbin |
it's full of history |
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sfisque |
oh man, ##java - You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy |
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pdurbin |
we must be cautious |
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whartung |
where are we supposed to start looking pdurbin |
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whartung |
but yea, I stay out of ##java for a reason |
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pdurbin |
the stuff from wyvern |
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whartung |
what time? |
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pdurbin |
[06:28] is where I ask about deployment |
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pdurbin |
so after that I guess |
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impl |
anecdotally, after doing a lot of JEE stuff and having to deal with crapware like GlassFish, i pretty much arrived at the same conclusion as wyvern and now i just bundle jetty into an executable jar. run with djb's daemontools-supervise. |
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impl |
the only way around the classloader issues is to use OSGi, and that's just... i can't even. |
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pdurbin |
impl: did you try jboss/wildfly? |
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whartung |
I don't say I've never had class loader issues with GF, but, I certainly "mostly" don't. I don't think I've had an insurmountable one. |
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impl |
the last version of jboss i used was 6.x, and i hear they made huge improvements in 7. |
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impl |
whartung: most of the ones i've had involved XML or DOM implementations in some way |
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pdurbin |
a guy I know gave me an example of jetty embedded at https://github.com/pdurbin/addressbookmvc/tree/master/examples/wicket and it seems nice |
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impl |
yeah, you can even do a ton of customization in there. let me see if i can find an example of something with a bunch of options. |
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impl |
https://gist.github.com/impl/6b7f48f6326b4abcab0d |
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impl |
this one does some logging/spring stuff... even with the boilerplate i prefer it over having to do all the jetty XML configuration crap, etc. |
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whartung |
impl: yea, I can see taht -- the bundling of XML tool suites in the JVM was a blessing and a curse, for sure. |
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pdurbin |
impl: interesting. and you build it with maven or whatever? |
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impl |
pdurbin: yeah, i use the maven-shade-plugin |
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pdurbin |
ah. sure |
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impl |
https://gist.github.com/impl/866a71bd4995535fa7ba |
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whartung |
that;s the one that bundles all of the jars in to a runtime jar? |
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pdurbin |
gotcha. makes sense. I do the same at https://github.com/pdurbin/maven-hello-world |
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impl |
yeah |
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whartung |
I've not seen that jcommander thing before |
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impl |
it's the only argument parser i've used that didn't make me want to shoot something |
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impl |
:< |
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pdurbin |
I wonder if https://github.com/docopt/docopt.java is any good. |
