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22:47 pdurbin whartung sfisque: you might enjoy this rant about Java EE: https://javabot.evanchooly.com/logs/%23%23java/2015-10-26
22:48 pdurbin it's full of history
22:50 sfisque oh man, ##java - You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy
22:52 pdurbin we must be cautious
23:21 whartung where are we supposed to start looking pdurbin
23:23 whartung but yea, I stay out of ##java for a reason
23:23 pdurbin the stuff from wyvern
23:23 whartung what time?
23:24 pdurbin [06:28] is where I ask about deployment
23:24 pdurbin so after that I guess
23:30 impl anecdotally, after doing a lot of JEE stuff and having to deal with crapware like GlassFish, i pretty much arrived at the same conclusion as wyvern and now i just bundle jetty into an executable jar. run with djb's daemontools-supervise.
23:31 impl the only way around the classloader issues is to use OSGi, and that's just... i can't even.
23:32 pdurbin impl: did you try jboss/wildfly?
23:32 whartung I don't say I've never had class loader issues with GF, but, I certainly "mostly" don't. I don't think I've had an insurmountable one.
23:32 impl the last version of jboss i used was 6.x, and i hear they made huge improvements in 7.
23:33 impl whartung: most of the ones i've had involved XML or DOM implementations in some way
23:34 pdurbin a guy I know gave me an example of jetty embedded at https://github.com/pdurbin/addressbookmvc/tree/master/examples/wicket and it seems nice
23:35 impl yeah, you can even do a ton of customization in there. let me see if i can find an example of something with a bunch of options.
23:45 impl https://gist.github.com/impl/6b7f48f6326b4abcab0d
23:46 impl this one does some logging/spring stuff... even with the boilerplate i prefer it over having to do all the jetty XML configuration crap, etc.
23:46 whartung impl: yea, I can see taht -- the bundling of XML tool suites in the JVM was a blessing and a curse, for sure.
23:47 pdurbin impl: interesting. and you build it with maven or whatever?
23:48 impl pdurbin: yeah, i use the maven-shade-plugin
23:48 pdurbin ah. sure
23:49 impl https://gist.github.com/impl/866a71bd4995535fa7ba
23:50 whartung that;s the one that bundles all of the jars in to a runtime jar?
23:50 pdurbin gotcha. makes sense. I do the same at https://github.com/pdurbin/maven-hello-world
23:50 impl yeah
23:51 whartung I've not seen that jcommander thing before
23:52 impl it's the only argument parser i've used that didn't make me want to shoot something
23:52 impl :<
23:57 pdurbin I wonder if https://github.com/docopt/docopt.java is any good.

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