IRC log for #rest, 2014-11-20

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01:51	talios	It's sad that we still tie this shit to HTTP - the worse mechanism for an API ever
01:51	talios	response codes are soo limited - api.error or whatever needs to become "the standard"
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03:27	* pdurbin	sends a 204 on delete because of this spec: http://swordapp.github.io/SWORDv2-Profile/SWORDProfile.html#protocoloperations_deletingcontent
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03:37	talios	I think 200 or 204 is ok. 201 would be just wack :)
03:39	pdurbin	I didn't even choose 204 consciously. It's what I library I'm using returned so I went with it. The spec is a profile of AtomPub: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5023
03:54	talios	ahh
03:57	pdurbin	of course, AtomPub doesn't seem to require 204 for delete
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12:50	Jarda	hello, anyone awake?
12:50	Jarda	I have resource that I fetch using GET /foos
12:51	Jarda	I have a 3rd party webservice that I use to populate Foos
12:51	Jarda	the service a) is slow b) costs the user every time it's queried
12:52	Jarda	so I guess calling the 3rd party service should be behind some POST route?
12:52	Jarda	like POST /foos/update
12:52	Jarda	what do you think?
12:52	Jarda	GET /foos?update=1 doesn't sound right to me
12:54	pdurbin	a boolean like that seems fine to me
12:55	Jarda	I'm just thinking about the semantics
12:55	Jarda	a GET request should not have side effects
12:56	Jarda	and that clearly has side effects
12:57	pdurbin	the person calling GET probably doesn't care if you use an expensive 3rd party webservice or not
12:57	Jarda	well he should. Because it's he who pays the 3rd party service bill :D
12:57	Jarda	my service just acts as a 'proxy'
12:59	pdurbin	I guess he'll learn to do fewer GETs then :)
12:59	pdurbin	after the first bill
12:59	Jarda	hmm, yeah maybe
12:59	Jarda	but how about the semantics of the HTTP verbs?
13:01	pdurbin	you think a POST should cost money but a GET shouldn't?
13:03	Jarda	well maybe that too, but mostly the side effects
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13:40	riso	I have this code http://pastebin.com/jcPmXM0e as you'll see the out string shows in scientific notation, how do I make it look exactly as the input string? I mean 123456789 the ouput I get now is 1.23456789E8
13:47	trygvis	Jarda: changing the URL is strange, then it suddenly becomes a new resource
13:47	trygvis	is the client going to decide if they want a new backend lookup?
13:48	trygvis	if you want to control it for them on the server side, you could do a if-modified-since where they send the last time they got their value
14:26	Jarda	trygvis: yeah well I tend to have these 'remote operations' as subresources and I call them with POST
14:26	Jarda	IMO it's better than sending custom payloads to the root reosurce
14:26	Jarda	trygvis: and yeah, I think I'd like the customer to explicitely choose when they want to have refreshed resources
14:27	Jarda	the normal use case will be that they schedule updates (hourly/daily/weekly) and then I use webhooks to notify clients when the stuff has been updated
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