| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 01:43 |
|
pdurbin |
prologic: I've been saying that I'm pro-Gitter and I still am but today I learned that they are pretty much completely focused on their SaaS offering and have no plans to support self hosting. |
| 01:46 |
|
pdurbin |
I guess it was over at http://irclog.greptilian.com/sourcefu/2018-11-26#i_240524 that you said "come up with a name" for an IRC-based alternative. |
| 02:23 |
|
prologic |
well that's truly sad |
| 02:25 |
|
pdurbin |
I guess my problem is that I remember a time before SaaS was a thing. |
| 02:27 |
|
pdurbin |
I mean, Gitter is still a good model for the kind of chat system that I think is healty for an open source project. And it's open source itself. But it's not practical to install it if the developers only want to suppor their SaaS offering. |
| 02:28 |
|
pdurbin |
By "developers" I also mean the decision makers, of course. |
| 02:30 |
|
pdurbin |
GitLab, basically, since they now own Gitter. |
| 02:31 |
|
prologic |
See now here's the thing |
| 02:31 |
|
prologic |
I actually have a BIG problem with SaaS today |
| 02:31 |
|
prologic |
and the so-called CLoud |
| 02:31 |
|
pdurbin |
I made a tiny contribution to the Gitter code. Hearing that they're SaaS focused doesn't incentivize me to contribute much. It's almost like fixing a bug for Twitter. |
| 02:32 |
|
prologic |
I cannot and will not trust SaaS products or Clouds |
| 02:32 |
|
prologic |
So there is room for one more final chat protocol, app and ecosystem |
| 02:32 |
|
pdurbin |
final? |
| 02:32 |
|
prologic |
one that is decentralized, p2p based with full e2e encryption |
| 02:33 |
|
prologic |
there are a few out there and I've talked about some of them before |
| 02:34 |
|
pdurbin |
Instead of "final" can we say "one with that we hope will last for 10 or 20 years" (or whatever, you pick)? |
| 02:36 |
|
prologic |
hehe |
| 02:36 |
|
prologic |
yes that sounds better :) |
| 02:41 |
|
pdurbin |
:) |
| 02:43 |
|
pdurbin |
I'm thinking of "Today we announce the launch of Discourse, a next-generation, 100% open source discussion platform built for the next decade of the Internet." |
| 02:43 |
|
pdurbin |
A decade of adoption is a pretty good goal. :) |
| 02:53 |
|
prologic |
"Today we are thrilled to announce the immediate Beta availability of the Cooee communications platform -- A next-generation Mobile and Web first fully open source, self-hosted, de-centalized with full e2e encryption and forward secrecy! Please come and join us and get your invite today!" |
| 03:01 |
|
pdurbin |
If it's open source, why do I need an invite? :) |
| 03:15 |
|
prologic |
because it makes it more exclusive :P |
| 03:15 |
|
prologic |
Anyway; the idea here is to offer both free SaaS offering |
| 03:15 |
|
prologic |
as well as a self-hosted option |
| 03:28 |
|
prologic |
Is anyone we know in this community good at mobile app development/design? |
| 12:01 |
|
pdurbin |
like Mastodon, I guess, multiple free SaaS offerings or run it yourself |
