| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 11:27 |
|
prologic |
pdurbin true; but isn't that the same regardless of the medium |
| 11:27 |
|
prologic |
unless you join it? |
| 11:27 |
|
prologic |
that's why I like irc logging :) and open logging |
| 11:39 |
|
pdurbin |
prologic: yep, it's the same regardless of the medium |
| 11:41 |
|
prologic |
so what's this transparency bit you like about Gitter? |
| 11:41 |
|
prologic |
I'm confused :) |
| 12:24 |
|
pdurbin |
prologic: I like Gitter's defaults. It's possible to make a private room on Gitter but if you tell someone you have a room on Gitter, the expectation is that it's public. Anyone can read the discussion without logging in. It's pretty much the only chat system like this. |
| 19:23 |
|
prologic |
pdurbin and without havin to join Gitter in the first place? |
| 19:23 |
|
pdurbin |
right, no need to sign up for Gitter |
| 19:24 |
|
prologic |
So basically if you took eris + cadmus you'd have exactly this? Say you taught eris to make cadmus join every public channel by default |
| 19:24 |
|
pdurbin |
the chat logs are simply public |
| 19:24 |
|
prologic |
unless explicitly disabled per channel (private) |
| 19:24 |
|
prologic |
This could be something I get get onboard with actually |
| 19:24 |
|
pdurbin |
sure, or freenode+philbot |
| 19:25 |
|
prologic |
Teach cadmus to respect the +p (private) channel mode |
| 19:25 |
|
prologic |
When on; it leaves, when off it joins and logs away |
| 19:25 |
|
pdurbin |
sure but it's not the software that's so important, it's the culture and norms of the network |
| 19:26 |
|
prologic |
actually it is |
| 19:26 |
|
prologic |
because the software is what makes it easy |
| 19:26 |
|
prologic |
if the software makes this the default its easy to adopt and build a culture around it |
| 19:26 |
|
prologic |
that's why you like Gitter :) |
| 19:27 |
|
pdurbin |
touche |
| 19:27 |
|
prologic |
Cultures are hard to create, but if they are the default, they are easy to adopt. |
| 19:27 |
|
pdurbin |
yeah |
| 19:29 |
|
pdurbin |
But you wouldn't want to call the software "eris+cadmus+config". You'd want to give the whole thing a name. "Install X to get transparent chat for open source projects." |
| 19:29 |
|
prologic |
Oh I agree |
| 19:30 |
|
prologic |
You'd actually just do what Gitter did |
| 19:30 |
|
prologic |
and provide it as a SaaS platform |
| 19:30 |
|
prologic |
doesn't matter of the underlying componnets |
| 19:31 |
|
prologic |
Slap Dispatch in too for good measure and Bob's ya Uncle :) |
| 19:31 |
|
prologic |
https://chat.mills.io/irc.mills.io/%23lobby |
| 19:31 |
|
* prologic |
IRC will never die for me :) -- Just has to have the right mindset, software and configs |
| 19:32 |
|
pdurbin |
:) |
| 19:33 |
|
prologic |
So... If that's what you want out of IRC |
| 19:33 |
|
prologic |
I'll stand up such a platform |
| 19:33 |
|
pdurbin |
:) |
| 19:33 |
|
prologic |
come up with a good name, we'll get a domain, I'll finish some important software changes that are necessary and boom :) |
| 19:33 |
|
prologic |
Our own Gitter |
| 19:34 |
|
prologic |
I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is :) |
| 19:34 |
|
prologic |
s/money/time |
| 19:34 |
|
pdurbin |
I do want it to be compatible with IRC at least. It doesn't necessarily have to be built on top of an IRC implementation. |
| 19:35 |
|
prologic |
Most are :) |
| 19:35 |
|
prologic |
But I digress! |
| 19:35 |
|
prologic |
are or were |
