| Time |
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Nick |
Message |
| 00:02 |
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* pdurbin |
gives javaeebot a treat |
| 00:02 |
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pdurbin |
sfisque: you're cracking me up with your FREE chassis :) |
| 00:03 |
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sfisque |
why so? |
| 00:05 |
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sfisque |
http://www-304.ibm.com/shop/americas/content/home/store_IBMPublicUSA/en_US/nochargechassis.html |
| 00:06 |
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sfisque |
on the surface it looks great, but when you start pricing the components, it's like, yowza |
| 00:09 |
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pdurbin |
yeah. not too surprising. like acuzio said, enterprise. pricing :) |
| 00:11 |
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pdurbin |
sfisque: also, VMware is a solid choice but if you're looking for free (and open source), there's KVM |
| 00:12 |
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pdurbin |
I guess Xen is free and open source too but I don't have much experience with it |
| 00:21 |
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sfisque |
reading about xen now. appears you have to patch the guest os for it to run. not sure i like that. i dont have to patch anything with VB. do other virt impls require patching the guest os? |
| 00:32 |
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pdurbin |
well, I think vmware has guest extensions but I don't think they're required. I don't recall any kind of patch for KVM guest but there might be some optional patch that's available |
| 00:42 |
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tjsnell |
vmware is what I run in any non play environment |
| 00:58 |
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sfisque |
aye but vmware == pay. right now i get all my virt needs via vbox (free). since a blade environment seems priced out of my range, staying with vbox on top of solaris for the near future on a newer box seems like a stable solution. though, from what i see, kvm and xen require an os ( xen refers to it as dom0) at the base level, so i'm not sure what advantage they give over vb on solaris (which also operates as a kernel extensi |
| 00:59 |
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sfisque |
maybe there's something i'm not seeing |
| 00:59 |
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sfisque |
i'm willing to admit some form of hv setup might be better, but i'm not seeing it atm |
| 01:09 |
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tjsnell |
oh I like vbox |
| 01:09 |
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tjsnell |
but for commercial stuff it's not nearly as good as vmware |
| 01:11 |
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sajjadg |
no one mirrored JDK 8 ? |
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sfisque |
ugh. tcp stack get munged. had to reboot |
| 01:19 |
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sajjadg |
no one mirrored JDK and netbeans 8? |
| 01:25 |
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tjsnell |
no netbeans is a feature :) |
| 01:27 |
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sajjadg |
what? |
| 01:28 |
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sajjadg |
I can't get it from the main server. anyone knows a mirror? |
| 01:37 |
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tjsnell |
there's never a mirror is there/ |
| 01:37 |
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tjsnell |
? |
| 01:37 |
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tjsnell |
sajjadg: I don't like netbeans so was trying to make a jok |
| 01:37 |
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tjsnell |
e |
| 01:38 |
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sajjadg |
I use both eclipse and netbeans |
| 01:38 |
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sajjadg |
and I don't like new version of eclipse 4.x |
| 01:39 |
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tjsnell |
me either :) |
| 01:39 |
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tjsnell |
or 3.x |
| 01:39 |
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tjsnell |
or 2.x which I used for a long time :) |
| 01:39 |
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sajjadg |
netbeans always been a pain in my ass (because I had just 2G RAM) but now that I have more resources and powerful hardware, I like it :-) |
| 01:39 |
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tjsnell |
tried idea? |
| 01:40 |
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sajjadg |
I usually use free/open softwares when there's an option. and idea ee is not free/open |
| 01:41 |
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sajjadg |
and for se I don't want to fall in love with it :-) |
| 01:41 |
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sajjadg |
I used android studio (which is based on idea) and doesn't see any significant features/changes ! |
| 01:41 |
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tjsnell |
it's free for me |
| 01:41 |
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tjsnell |
I usually use the best tools |
| 01:42 |
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tjsnell |
license isn't a sticking point for me |
| 01:42 |
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tjsnell |
my apache commit status gets me a free Idea EE copy |
| 01:42 |
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sajjadg |
I like the idea of freedom. I can get all the softwares for free (because my country does NOT have copyright in it) but I just don't like it myself :) |
| 01:42 |
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tjsnell |
and I have a couple of purchased ones |
| 01:42 |
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tjsnell |
I think that idea of freedom is ridiculous |
| 01:43 |
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tjsnell |
to each his own though |
| 01:44 |
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sajjadg |
most people prefer welfare over freedom ;) |
| 01:44 |
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tjsnell |
ok completely ridiculous now so I'll shut the fuck up |
| 01:45 |
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tjsnell |
g'night |
| 01:45 |
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sajjadg |
:-) |
| 01:46 |
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sajjadg |
statistics shows that most people use eclipse. but I think most profs use IDEA. |
| 01:47 |
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sajjadg |
all of them do the jobs. |
| 01:47 |
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sajjadg |
it's good to have more than one options. |
| 01:49 |
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firebird1 |
sajjadg, sfisque why we use binding in jsf |
| 01:49 |
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sajjadg |
I'm no jsf user. go for html5 ;) |
| 01:55 |
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firebird1 |
pdurbin, why we use binding |
| 01:58 |
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sfisque |
firebird1 when you need complex logic in the backing bean to handle the internals of a component |
| 01:58 |
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firebird1 |
for f:validator i was forced to use binding component |
| 01:59 |
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sfisque |
why forced? you can use ID, class ref, OR binding |
| 01:59 |
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sfisque |
you have 3 options for validator reference |
| 01:59 |
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firebird1 |
that was the trick this post was helful |
| 01:59 |
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firebird1 |
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7572335/how-to-use-ejb-inject-and-or-autowired-in-facesvalidator/7572413#7572413 |
| 02:00 |
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firebird1 |
5 stars for this |
| 02:00 |
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firebird1 |
Great BalusC |
| 02:00 |
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firebird1 |
and MahmoudS |
| 02:01 |
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sfisque |
not guaranteed to work |
| 02:02 |
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sfisque |
the container is free to instantiate a validator as it sees fit, which means your managed bean might not get used. best to use JNDI lookup of any resources you need. injection is just a convenience, dont turn it into a crutch |
| 02:03 |
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sfisque |
the only exception to this is "binding". if you give it a binding, you get the very instance you referenc |
| 02:06 |
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pdurbin |
BalusC is great |
| 02:08 |
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sfisque |
yes he is |
| 02:14 |
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firebird1 |
so the reason we use binding it creates get the very instance you referenc |
| 02:14 |
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sajjadg |
and he's deaf! |
| 02:15 |
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sajjadg |
indeed he's great. respect. |
| 02:16 |
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firebird1 |
learning frameworks from prj :/ since spring big, hib big , jsf big :( |
| 02:16 |
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sfisque |
yes firebird1. class = "ClassTypeYouWantTheContainerToInstantiateForValidating" |
| 02:17 |
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sfisque |
id="SaveAsAboveButMatchByIDNotClassType" |
| 02:18 |
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sfisque |
binding="#{bindToASpecificBean.orAContainedBeanExposedViaGetterMethod}" |
| 02:19 |
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firebird1 |
yep sfisque i got this explanation in internet but binding getting confused where to use what it does |
| 02:20 |
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sfisque |
the best use case i can offer, is you have a validator that needs to reference stuff in your Controller, so you have the controller instantiate it and then expose it via Accessor method. @Named class A { Validator b = new Validator(){ blah blah blah } ; public getB() } binding = "#{a.b}" |
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firebird1 |
thank all so happy :D |
| 02:25 |
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firebird1 |
ill cme back |
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sajjadg |
do you use oracle JDK or openJDK or maybe another? |
| 03:00 |
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* sfisque |
uses oracle jdk |
| 03:01 |
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sajjadg |
for 7 and 8, openJDK is the reference implementation...I don't know if there's differences between them. |
| 03:01 |
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sajjadg |
I heard about some of oracle close sourced stuff but they had a plan to open source them... |
| 03:02 |
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sfisque |
unless they've released the source code to the old sun impl code under the hood or finally deprecated it, the oracle one would still contain non OS code |
| 03:03 |
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pdurbin |
oracle jdk on my mac, openjdk on my linux box |
| 03:03 |
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pdurbin |
I wonder when java 8 (openjdk) for fedora will be available |
| 03:06 |
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pdurbin |
huh. `yum search openjdk` is already showing me java-1.8.0-openjdk.x86_64 |
| 03:07 |
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pdurbin |
not sure what this means though... b126 for beta 126 maybe... Release: 0.25.b126.fc20 |
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pdurbin |
"Update to candidate Reference Implementation release" for b126 according to http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/java-1.8.0-openjdk.git/tree/java-1.8.0-openjdk.spec |
| 03:16 |
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sajjadg |
8-b132 |
| 03:19 |
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sajjadg |
where's openjdk bug-tracker.? I wonder how many bug it already have :P |
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cem__ |
hi all |
| 04:17 |
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cem__ |
back again :) |
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kotten |
cem__ hello! Where have you been? |
| 05:14 |
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cem__ |
? |
| 05:15 |
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cem__ |
hi kotten :/ i have been here all time |
| 05:16 |
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kotten |
cem__ you wrote "back again" |
| 05:17 |
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kotten |
But nstill nice to have you here |
| 05:28 |
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cem__ |
:) |
| 05:33 |
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cem__ |
if any using jasper reports hope ur doing okay :) |
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cem__ |
how to do dynamic casting |
| 07:28 |
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cem__ |
i have the class which is represented in string like "com.fskj.app.service.impl.SJ" |
| 07:28 |
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cem__ |
in for loop i get List<?> array how to convert to the respective that Class type |
| 07:28 |
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cem__ |
i have the class which is represented in string like "com.fskj.app.service.impl" |
| 07:28 |
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cem__ |
for(Object obj:ls) |
| 07:28 |
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cem__ |
where ls is list |
| 07:29 |
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cem__ |
want to convert obj to repective class type |
| 07:53 |
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cem__ |
sfisque: any idea |
| 07:53 |
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cem__ |
how to do it |
| 07:53 |
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cem__ |
i'm writing generic method |
| 07:54 |
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AlexCzar |
in the generic method you do not convert anythong |
| 07:55 |
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AlexCzar |
s/anythong/anything/ |
| 08:35 |
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acuzio |
sfisque: From yesterday - there is a free version of ESXi - (not cobbled just completely free). |
| 08:37 |
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acuzio |
Additionally, Xen does not need an O.S to run - I am not sure where you are getting that from. |
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fabioportieri |
good morning |
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cem__ |
k did dynamic list genration :) |
| 09:56 |
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cem__ |
dyno type :) |
| 09:56 |
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cem__ |
although why we require Class.cast(obj) ? |
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* Bombe |
certainly doesn’t require Class.cast(obj) and doesn’t know anybody else who does. |
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CJ_ |
lol |
| 13:20 |
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CJ_ |
Three things seem plain. First, the poster appears to believe that applications may be rendered multithreaded by mere virtue of the programming language they are written in, without special consideration; in other words, an application that would otherwise be singlethreaded may be made instantly multithreaded without special work. Second, the poster did not know Java has threads. Third, the poster believes Oracle cares about Minecraft. All of th |
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CJ_ |
ese things appear to reflect an uninformed poster. |
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pdurbin |
what poster? |
| 13:44 |
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acuzio |
indeed - sounds fantastical |
| 13:57 |
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CJ_ |
pdurbin, It was someone commenting on the /. Java 8 story. What I pasted was someones response to it. |
| 13:57 |
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fabioportieri |
what about minecraft? |
| 13:58 |
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acuzio |
is Slashdot still on ? |
| 13:59 |
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CJ_ |
acuzio, Didn't you say that last time I posted a /. story? |
| 14:00 |
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acuzio |
did i ? |
| 14:00 |
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CJ_ |
fabioportieri, Yes, I believe someone was saying that Oracle needs to make sure Minecraft performs faster by multithreading it. Or something like that. |
| 14:00 |
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CJ_ |
acuzio, I think you did. |
| 14:00 |
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acuzio |
I have always thought that Slashdot died a long time ago |
| 14:01 |
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CJ_ |
Nope, it's still around. Occasionally useful. |
| 14:17 |
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sfisque |
acuzio - "Responsibilities of the hypervisor include memory management and CPU scheduling of all virtual machines ("domains"), and for launching the most privileged domain ("dom0") - the only virtual machine which by default has direct access to hardware. From the dom0 the hypervisor can be managed and unprivileged domains ("domU") can be launched.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xen#cite_note-2http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xen#cite_ |
| 14:17 |
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sfisque |
so it appears there needs to be a "dom0" instance before you can launch other VMs |
| 14:17 |
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sfisque |
unless i'm reading that wrong |
| 14:25 |
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CJ_ |
What are you doing with Xen? |
| 14:28 |
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sfisque |
nothing atm |
| 14:28 |
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sfisque |
exploring upgrade options for my current server stack |
| 14:29 |
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CJ_ |
What is your current stack? I'm looking at using XenServer once I get my iSCSI target setup. |
| 14:34 |
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sfisque |
currently have 2 multi-proc opteron servers that i run solaris on. on top of that, i virtualize slackware vms via virtualbox |
| 14:35 |
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sfisque |
and (unfortunately) a couple windows vm's |
| 14:35 |
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CJ_ |
Understood. |
| 14:35 |
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sfisque |
i was looking at the ibm free blade chassis deal, but bailed on that when i saw how much the blade components cost |
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sfisque |
which is how xen and kvm came up |
| 14:36 |
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phao |
Hi. I've been studying java for some time now, and I'd like to learn how to develop web apps (server part) with java. Should I learn java ee fundamentals or take some (for example) book on jsf directly instead? |
| 14:36 |
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sfisque |
depends |
| 14:36 |
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sfisque |
jsf is "part" of ee |
| 14:36 |
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sfisque |
but ee has "many" parts |
| 14:36 |
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sfisque |
each of which (other than ejb) can be utilized stand-alone |
| 14:37 |
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phao |
Yeah, I knew that (theoretically), but as I've seen, it seems that there is lots of java ee which isn't really used in web development. Right? |
| 14:38 |
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acuzio |
phao: that is right |
| 14:38 |
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acuzio |
sfisque: Are you looking at this - http://www.xenproject.org/ - the "enterprise" version of that is Citrix XenServer. This is what i am familiar with |
| 14:38 |
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phao |
My doubt is around if it's worth learning java ee before applying it to web development. |
| 14:38 |
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acuzio |
phao: Learn what you can use |
| 14:39 |
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phao |
I have this book here around, but I'd not mind going through the java ee tutorial if it's worth it. |
| 14:39 |
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phao |
http://www.amazon.com/Core-JavaServer-Faces-3rd-Edition/dp/0137012896/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395239953&sr=8-1&keywords=core+jsf |
| 14:39 |
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phao |
acuzio, What do you mean? |
| 14:39 |
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acuzio |
phao: Learn the parts of Java EE that you are going to use - make up your mind about what you actually want to develop |
| 14:40 |
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phao |
For now, I want to develop web applications. That I already know. |
| 14:40 |
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acuzio |
What sort? |
| 14:41 |
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phao |
Well, what I know I guess is true for almost all of them. |
| 14:41 |
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phao |
I want it to talk to a DB, probably relational or object-relational. |
| 14:41 |
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phao |
It has to provide UI for common users and admin-ish users. It has to support user login. That kind of stuff. |
| 14:42 |
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acuzio |
A CRUD app can be written with a whole host of technologies |
| 14:42 |
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pdurbin |
I guess the question is "Should I start with JSF?" (the standard way to build web apps in java ee) |
| 14:42 |
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acuzio |
The only right answer to that is no |
| 14:43 |
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phao |
Well, for now, I want to use JSF. What I don't know is if I need to know some kind of java ee fundamentals beforehand. |
| 14:43 |
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phao |
The reason why I want to use JSF is because I'm going to take a complementary course on it here at my univ. |
| 14:44 |
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phao |
Maybe I have to know some java ee fundamentals before hand but maybe books on jsf will cover that. Idk... |
| 14:44 |
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acuzio |
So you want to learn JSF - good - books on JSF will cover what EE tech you need to know to learn JSF - |
| 14:44 |
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phao |
I see. Thanks. |
| 14:45 |
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phao |
Do you know if that "core javaserver faces" is a good one? |
| 14:46 |
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pdurbin |
phao: watching this helped me the most: Java EE 6 Development with NetBeans and GlassFish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBNaiVWwAZw |
| 14:46 |
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acuzio |
phao: i dont know that book |
| 14:46 |
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pdurbin |
via http://wiki.greptilian.com/java/ee/6 |
| 14:48 |
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phao |
Thanks. |
| 14:48 |
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phao |
Btw, many java related videos I see, the person speaking is using netbeans. I thought eclipse was all-over. |
| 14:48 |
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phao |
I mean, I really thought that netbeans was just not being used anymore. |
| 14:49 |
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pdurbin |
netbeans 8 came out yesterday. supports java 8 |
| 14:49 |
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acuzio |
Intellij IDEA is what you should be using - |
| 14:50 |
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phao |
pdurbin, I've been using netbeans8 beta with that jdk 8 preview release for some time now. I guess 1 month or 2. |
| 14:55 |
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pdurbin |
ok |
| 14:55 |
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phao |
acuzio, not to start a war, but why? |
| 14:55 |
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phao |
pdurbin, I didn't use netbeans enough to see a difference from 7.4 to 8 yet. |
| 14:56 |
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phao |
netbeans 7.4 could do java 8 already |
| 14:56 |
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pdurbin |
oh yeah. I forgot |
| 14:57 |
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acuzio |
phao: Cause its the best out there - use it for a bit and you will notice the difference |
| 14:57 |
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phao |
I've been using it too. I've only used it enough to see a difference in the formatting rules, which seem better than what I have in netbeans. |
| 14:58 |
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acuzio |
What i like about it |
| 14:58 |
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semiosis |
acuzio++ - IDEA FTW |
| 15:00 |
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acuzio |
a_ Its consistent b_ Its speedier (if configured with the correct plugins) c_ Keymapping is saner d_ Its more stable e_ The integration with Spring, Play, AspectJ, Clojure etc. is a lot better f_ Very very stable |
| 15:00 |
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acuzio |
Cons : a_ Swing (so non-native on all platforms) |
| 15:05 |
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phao |
I see. |
| 15:05 |
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phao |
That aspect about swing and being non-native looking is not really an issue for me. |
| 15:05 |
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semiosis |
yeah that's hardly a con |
| 15:06 |
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semiosis |
in fact i like it because it's consistent on all platforms... same look & feel on windows, mac, linux |
| 15:06 |
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sfisque |
in today's world with apps being stretched across many platforms, uniformity of LAF is LAFfable |
| 15:06 |
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semiosis |
ha |
| 15:06 |
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sfisque |
:P |
| 15:07 |
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* sfisque |
smirks evilly |
| 15:08 |
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acuzio |
semiosis: Native L&F is key - except in certain niche business areas |
| 15:09 |
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sfisque |
i argue that there is no such thing as "native" lnf anymore. it's an artifact |
| 15:09 |
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semiosis |
not imho, but to each their own |
| 15:10 |
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fabioportieri |
fuck... they want me to do full day working at client office, then go back to main office (1 hr travel by car) and do some extra work there.. |
| 15:11 |
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acuzio |
are you being paid for it fabioportieri |
| 15:11 |
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fabioportieri |
acuzio: by contract i don't get paid for extra hours |
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sfisque |
1 hr. lol my commute years ago was 1.5 − 2.5hrs door to door |
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aspire |
damn |
| 15:11 |
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aspire |
thats quite the distance |
| 15:11 |
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fabioportieri |
but dunno if they will pay me for that |
| 15:11 |
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sfisque |
and then i moved to the west coast |
| 15:11 |
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sfisque |
:-D |
| 15:12 |
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sfisque |
recruiters were like "are you ok with a 30min commute"? |
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sfisque |
i laughed |
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fabioportieri |
i don't wanna do it seems like a major pita |
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fabioportieri |
already said that, but i think the commercial guy will still insist on that |
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ra4king|work |
sweet, this channel exists |
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ra4king|work |
aaaaand it's tiny |
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sfisque |
so recommendations on a rack mount server. does dell have good stuff? they have some nicely priced machines with 16-64 cores on board. is their stuff good or trash? how about ibm's non-blade rack mounts? |
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SoniEx2 |
can I access a private field from an inner class? |
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SoniEx2 |
(also idk why I'm writing my code like a sandbox) |
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sfisque |
if it is inner yes |
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sfisque |
OuterClass.this.attribute |
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sfisque |
but beware, some container managed bean types don't play nicely with inner classes (session beans are one culprit) |
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SoniEx2 |
can I do something like: public class Something { private int f; private static class SomethingElse { public void someMethod(Something s, int i) { s.f = i; } } } |
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sfisque |
not static |
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sfisque |
static class != inner class |
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sfisque |
static class defs are top level |
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SoniEx2 |
damn :/ |
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sfisque |
use a delegate model |
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neuro_sys |
how do you cope with the information overload in programming technologies? |
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SoniEx2 |
I need a way to hide f but allow SomethingElse to modify it when passing a .class |
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sfisque |
observer pattern? |
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sfisque |
delegate pattern? |
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sfisque |
proxy pattern? |
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sfisque |
take your pick of those or various others that will give you want you need |
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semiosis |
neuro_sys: what information overload? |
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neuro_sys |
I mean there's far too many stuff out there. Several frameworks and libraries, tools, programming languages and shit |
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sfisque |
it's always been that way. the only difference is the information is more pervasively available |
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sfisque |
self-control :-D |
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sfisque |
discipline |
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semiosis |
maven |
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fabioportieri |
yeah.. java ecosystem is a giant mess |
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neuro_sys |
if only it was just one platform. you've all kinds of shit sprawling all over |
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neuro_sys |
I think one's just gotta filter them carefully |
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fabioportieri |
fuck him |
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fabioportieri |
he ruined my day |
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whartung |
actually I think java is pretty well established |
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SoniEx2 |
sfisque, i GUESS i JUST USE REFLECTION? |
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SoniEx2 |
(SORRY CAPS ON TOO LAZY TO DISABLE IT AND TYPING WITH SHIFT IS A PAIN) |
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fabioportieri |
woah, to lazy to disable caps, seriously? |
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SoniEx2 |
MEH :/ |
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hello world |
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firebird1 |
did anyone do customid generation <in hibernate> |
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sfisque |
i did a very long time ago |
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firebird1 |
my friend gave challenge to me :/ |
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firebird1 |
to generate like this aa,ab,ac..... |
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is it alright for an ejb timed job to run indefinitely? we used timed scheduled jobs in jboss but i want to just have something that just runs indefinitely in a loop, but it has to be in the container now as a timed job |
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pdurbin |
sfisque: speaking of virtualization, have you looked into docker? http://irclog.perlgeek.de/crimsonfu/2014-03-19#i_8462507 |
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SoniEx2 |
sfisque, I have good news and bad news |
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SoniEx2 |
sfisque, the good news, http://imgur.com/mVWlqMW |
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SoniEx2 |
the bad news you were wrong |
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SoniEx2 |
(also yeah screw english) |
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semiosis |
my eyes, they burn! eclipse and windows... the HORROR |
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SoniEx2 |
semiosis, eclipse because that's what MinecraftForge uses, windows because... well I'm just gonna tell you one thing: "good luck running AMD catalyst on Ubuntu" |
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SoniEx2 |
:( |
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tjsnell |
Shift is a pain? |
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whartung |
anyone ever play with WS:A and WS:RM combined? |
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whartung |
WS:Addressing and WS:ReliableMessaging |
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sfisque |
soniex2 your screen shot does not tell me anything. how was i wrong? |
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SoniEx2 |
no error |
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sfisque |
no error what? |
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SoniEx2 |
well try it yourself |
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SoniEx2 |
public class Something { private int f; public static class SomethingElse { public void someMethod(Something s, int i) { s.f = i; } } } |
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sfisque |
that is indeed interesting. the only way i can see it works is similar to how .equals works. since you're "inside the scope of the class" and you're passing in the reference. definitely an odd loophole. |
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sfisque |
when you asked the question i wasnt considering the case where you pass in the reference. i figured you meant via ClassName.this.attributeName |
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sfisque |
which would fail because ClassName.this would not be in scope because the class is "static" (aka, not an inner class) |
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