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aspire |
ahhh |
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pdurbin |
it happens |
| 00:02 |
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aspire |
yes i should be super busy too |
| 00:02 |
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aspire |
i have so much shit due friday |
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cem__ |
hi sfisque |
| 03:06 |
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cem__ |
trying out with viewscoped |
| 03:06 |
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cem__ |
lets see |
| 03:37 |
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cem__ |
i hate jsf to the core .... Something gets messed up always :/ |
| 03:49 |
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tjsnell |
angularjs++ |
| 04:23 |
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cem__ |
from next project ill move on to struts . |
| 04:27 |
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cem__ |
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17462812/dialog-framework-in-primeface-4-0-not-working they used sessionScoped |
| 04:30 |
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tjsnell |
haha |
| 04:30 |
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tjsnell |
move on to struts? |
| 04:34 |
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cem__ |
why haha ? |
| 04:38 |
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tjsnell |
because it's old stuff only found in stodgy slow moving companies |
| 04:38 |
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tjsnell |
I'd turn down a position where struts was required |
| 04:38 |
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tjsnell |
and I have code in the struts codebase |
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tjsnell |
contributed back in the day |
| 06:08 |
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cem__ |
hmm |
| 06:09 |
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cem__ |
old stuff ? struts 2 ? |
| 06:09 |
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cem__ |
even Corporate company uses it |
| 06:24 |
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sfisque |
one thing to keep in mind. if you have a tight dev cycle and you're spending time solving a new problem, would you want to spend time vetting technology or solving the problem. there are contexts where commodity technology wins. and cases where cutting edge is the way to go. you have to weigh the pros/cons |
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fabioportieri |
o/ |
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cem__ |
hi sajjadg |
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cem__ |
hi fabioportieri |
| 08:59 |
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cem__ |
using this http://www.primefaces.org/showcase/ui/dialogHome.jsf |
| 08:59 |
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fabioportieri |
hi cem__ |
| 08:59 |
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cem__ |
the other one is still dev(Dialog framework).... (bugs) |
| 09:12 |
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cem__ |
how to include only part of 1.xhtml to other ? |
| 09:13 |
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sajjadg |
hi cem__ |
| 09:13 |
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cem__ |
hry |
| 09:13 |
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cem__ |
wats up |
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sajjadg |
cem__: put that part in another file and include it everywhere you want |
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cem__ |
lol it turned to base template |
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pdurbin |
cem__: why did you choose JSF? |
| 13:40 |
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acuzio |
It was chosen for him |
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Naros |
anyone created custom jpa expressions? |
| 14:16 |
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Naros |
i had a custom SQL fragment gen for hibernate that did some padding so sorts were natural order rather than whacky based on the SQL engine. but not sure how to recreate that using JPA criteria. |
| 14:45 |
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neuro_sys |
Is it possible to delegate the executions db statements only until commit? |
| 14:45 |
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neuro_sys |
like hibernate does |
| 14:47 |
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neuro_sys |
of db * |
| 14:47 |
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neuro_sys |
sorry, I was distracted |
| 14:53 |
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neuro_sys |
okay, Statement.addBatch does it. |
| 15:26 |
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pdurbin |
acuzio: many are called but few are chosen |
| 15:33 |
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acuzio |
pdurbin: The one to rule them all |
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sfisque |
and in the darkness, bind them |
| 15:41 |
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sfisque |
io |
| 15:41 |
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sfisque |
i'm actually re-reading the silmarillion |
| 15:42 |
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fabioportieri |
i tried rereading lotr twice.. failed.. |
| 15:43 |
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tjsnell |
why? |
| 15:44 |
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fabioportieri |
too slow paced for my taste |
| 15:44 |
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sfisque |
lotr does have some "dry" spots. i found two towers a tough read (not mechanically, but story-wise) |
| 15:44 |
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tjsnell |
what novels do you like? |
| 15:44 |
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tjsnell |
two towers drags the most |
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fabioportieri |
indeed i stopped at two towers |
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acuzio |
Thats my evening done - i am going to watch Desolation of Smaug |
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acuzio |
So that would take me till tomorrow morning i take it |
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cem1 |
hello world |
| 19:08 |
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pdurbin |
in JSF, can I have checkboxes that allow me to force an HTTP GET and change the URL every time I check or uncheck one (of many) checkboxes? |
| 19:09 |
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sfisque |
what url are you changing? |
| 19:09 |
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pdurbin |
sfisque: facets: http://pdurbin.pagekite.me |
| 19:10 |
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sajjadg |
pdurbin: I've seen AngularJS do this. it should be possible in JSF too. AngularJS is JavaScript. |
| 19:10 |
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pdurbin |
i.e. http://pdurbin.pagekite.me/?id=&q=&fq0=keywordValue_ss%3A%22song%22 |
| 19:10 |
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sfisque |
i guess what i'm asking is, if i chanage a checkbox "what" is getting changed? |
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sfisque |
so you're just changing the params, not the url |
| 19:11 |
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pdurbin |
that page is a mess. sorry. I'm trying to figure out how to convert these facets into checkboxes |
| 19:11 |
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pdurbin |
sfisque: yes, the params |
| 19:11 |
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pdurbin |
to pass into solr |
| 19:11 |
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sfisque |
checkbox == if checked value gets sent, if not value gets omitted |
| 19:11 |
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sfisque |
you know that, right? |
| 19:11 |
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pdurbin |
buh |
| 19:12 |
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sfisque |
so just put the attribute you want sent on the checkbox |
| 19:12 |
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pdurbin |
I do have checkboxes on there (Dataverses, Datasets, Files) but they're the special (and buggy) facet |
| 19:12 |
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pdurbin |
I'm trying to improve them |
| 19:12 |
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pdurbin |
and make them all checkboxes |
| 19:12 |
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pdurbin |
the non-checkbox facets work fine |
| 19:12 |
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pdurbin |
but people seem to love checkboxes around here |
| 19:12 |
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sfisque |
lolz |
| 19:13 |
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sfisque |
i would guess research attracts people who think boolean |
| 19:13 |
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sfisque |
good vs bad, right vs wrong |
| 19:13 |
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sfisque |
etcf. |
| 19:13 |
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pdurbin |
we're somewhat inspired by the checkboxes at http://labs.adsabs.harvard.edu/adsabs/search/?q=* and at amazon |
| 19:14 |
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pdurbin |
but making the state of the checkboxes bookmarkable (i.e. put into the URL) hasn't been easy yet |
| 19:15 |
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pdurbin |
sajjadg: yeah, here's a javascript idea I'm playing with (not getting anywhere fast though): http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2176586/jsf-link-in-selectitem-label/2176689#2176689 |
| 19:15 |
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pdurbin |
onchange="window.location='#{SearchIncludeFragment.checkboxParam}'" |
| 19:15 |
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pdurbin |
sfisque: see? param :) |
| 19:16 |
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sajjadg |
good luck bro ;) |
| 19:17 |
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sajjadg |
I'm hacking with xbox 360 right now ;) |
| 19:22 |
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pdurbin |
sajjadg: thanks |
| 19:22 |
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pdurbin |
I need it |
| 19:24 |
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pdurbin |
I think I'd rather do this in JSF than JavaScript if I can |
| 19:26 |
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sajjadg |
I think JS is better than JSF. things you do in JS can be used regardless of the backend tech later... |
| 19:26 |
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tjsnell |
~sajjadg++ |
| 19:27 |
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pdurbin |
well, I don't know javascript very well :( |
| 19:28 |
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whartung |
JSF hide the JS necessary to pull this off in the first place, thus a benefit of using a component framework |
| 19:29 |
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sfisque |
depends. yes you get finer control doing raw js, but the nice thing about jsf is unless you're doing very tweaky stuff, you dont have to write a single line of js |
| 19:29 |
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sfisque |
^^^^ what whartung said, as well |
| 19:31 |
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sajjadg |
JSF is easier than raw JS. true. but new JS frameworks are beasts. they are near what JSF is. take a look at AngularJS, Backbone, ember.js etc. |
| 19:31 |
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sajjadg |
the most important thing is to use what you can do the job faster. |
| 19:33 |
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tjsnell |
speed of doing the job is only a part of the important things |
| 19:33 |
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tjsnell |
resultant UI is critical too |
| 19:35 |
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acuzio |
Ah , is this sfisque being critical of JS frameworks again - |
| 19:36 |
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sfisque |
lolz |
| 19:40 |
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sajjadg |
speed, quality, ... |
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acuzio |
sfisque: :-) |
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neuro_sys |
I caused 10k emails to be sent to a staff of 30+ workers plus the managers in our customer company... |
| 19:46 |
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neuro_sys |
the sad thing is I don't even remember messing with the particular table in question, although I'm not sure. |
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acuzio |
Did it start an avalanche of "Can people please stop sending emails like this ?" - |
| 19:51 |
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neuro_sys |
not really, it's worse. people got scared the hell, because they though the batch job started working on the production environment, which thankfully it wasn't. |
| 19:51 |
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neuro_sys |
they all started giving phone calls to their managers. |
| 19:52 |
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neuro_sys |
who in turn called my boss, and then me. |
| 19:52 |
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neuro_sys |
damn it. |
| 19:52 |
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neuro_sys |
screwed up |
| 19:53 |
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acuzio |
There is a software called Dumpster or dumbster - that does "fake" emailing |
| 20:08 |
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Naros |
neuro_sys: generally part of our own internal process is that any non-production system that holds emails will have emails automatically removed and replaced with some developer's email |
| 20:09 |
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Naros |
that way when those mistakes happen, production users are not impacted. |
| 20:10 |
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acuzio |
Tahts another way to do |
| 20:10 |
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acuzio |
it |
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whartung |
look at it this was neuro_sys, you could have actually lost data. This mistake is nothing compared to that :) |
| 20:10 |
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Naros |
very true. |
| 20:10 |
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Naros |
lol i ran a batch job last week and almost had a heartattack cause I thought I emailed vendors on data that was 3 months old. |
| 20:11 |
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Naros |
thankfully the processes we had in place just caused my manager to get 25k emails :P |
| 20:11 |
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whartung |
or, worse, spammed healthcare data to Facebook... |
| 20:11 |
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Naros |
yah here's my ssn, have a good day being me. |
| 20:13 |
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sfisque |
lolz |
| 20:13 |
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neuro_sys |
yes it could have been worse. but still, it's an error (how it'd turn out is undefined), and could *have* been worse. |
| 20:13 |
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neuro_sys |
I mean mistake* |
| 20:14 |
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neuro_sys |
I should look into ways to prevent such stuff. |
| 20:14 |
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neuro_sys |
sometimes it all depends on a boolean, or a commented out code. |
| 20:14 |
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neuro_sys |
the thin line between a disaster and a testing. |
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neuro_sys |
yeah, I guess such stuff should never reside in the code, but on the host environment... |
| 20:17 |
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neuro_sys |
the code should figure out critical shit like that by the environment it's running on. |
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sfisque |
configuration! |
| 20:17 |
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sfisque |
crazy talk |
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sfisque |
C |
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sfisque |
R |
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sfisque |
A |
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sfisque |
Z |
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sfisque |
Y |
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Naros |
yeah we generally have a few tables in the apps that hold config data per instance |
| 20:18 |
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Naros |
lots of flags, etc. |
| 20:18 |
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neuro_sys |
you know, the story about Therac-25 |
| 20:18 |
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neuro_sys |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therac-25 |
| 20:18 |
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Naros |
o.O |
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sfisque |
i do remember that in the news |
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neuro_sys |
in around 87' ? |
| 20:20 |
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sfisque |
soon afterwards, dental offices started using lead aprons for patients |
| 20:20 |
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sfisque |
aye, i was in high school when it happened |
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neuro_sys |
I was probably a vitamin C in an orange |
| 20:22 |
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neuro_sys |
or no, I was 1 year old. |
| 20:23 |
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whartung |
there's a reason I don't work on dangerous things. |
| 20:23 |
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neuro_sys |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyL9EC0S0c |
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neuro_sys |
it's a nice talk |
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pdurbin |
hmm. javascript - onclick checkbox append checkbox value to URL - Stack Overflow - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9441374/onclick-checkbox-append-checkbox-value-to-url |
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sfisque |
pdurbin you know you could also have the checkbox set the value in the backend via ajax |
| 21:21 |
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sfisque |
then you dont have to submit it on the url |
| 21:21 |
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sfisque |
just store the value in the users shopping cart |
| 21:21 |
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pdurbin |
sfisque: I want the state of the checkboxes in the URL so they are bookmarkable |
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sfisque |
ah |
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sfisque |
that makes sense. i didnt know you were going for deep linking |
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pdurbin |
yeah |
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pdurbin |
I'd rather do it in JSF if I can |
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pdurbin |
p:selectManyCheckbox or whatever |
| 21:23 |
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sfisque |
i think you're going to be stuck writing some javascript though, because you're looking for a GET url and JSF isnt so good at those |
| 21:24 |
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pdurbin |
yeah |
| 21:25 |
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pdurbin |
well, I've had some success with stuff like this: <p:commandButton id="searchbutton" value="Find" action="search.xhtml?faces-redirect=true&includeViewParams=true" update="@all"/> |
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neuro_sys |
is & actually required there? |
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pdurbin |
dunno. under a deadline. always it seems :) |
| 21:28 |
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pdurbin |
and then I have viewParams like q for query, fq for filter query, etc. |
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pdurbin |
page=2 |
| 21:29 |
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pdurbin |
hmm, I left a comment in the code to this: POST-REDIRECT-GET and JSF 2.0 (Enterprise Tech Tips) - https://blogs.oracle.com/enterprisetechtips/entry/post_redirect_get_and_jsf |
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pdurbin |
neuro_sys: that's where I got the & I think |
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neuro_sys |
yeah, it appears like to prevent & from being escaped though |
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pdurbin |
yeah |
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ilhami |
hey |
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ilhami |
anybody here? |
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* tjsnell |
hugs ilhami |
| 22:13 |
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tjsnell |
and preps for stupidity |
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ilhami |
? |
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Naros |
whats up ihami? |
| 22:17 |
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Naros |
*ilhami |
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pdurbin |
tjsnell: no hugging |
| 22:18 |
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ilhami |
not much. still working on my android app. I passed my exam today. |
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pdurbin |
ilhami: what does the app do again? |
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tjsnell |
I didn't grope |
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ilhami |
pdurbin it's going to show some posts from a database and an admin should be able to add some post from it in an admin section. |
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pdurbin |
gotcha |
| 22:20 |
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pdurbin |
does this make any sense? Software development as filling buckets of water - https://plus.google.com/+PhilipDurbin/posts/MVsapLhL97t :) |
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sfisque |
i personally like the "nailing jelly to a tree" metaphor |
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ilhami |
should be pretty simple but working with Android is not. |
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ilhami |
have you guys worked with json in Java? |
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tjsnell |
I do daily |
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ilhami |
tjsnell ok. I don't think I should ask you. You will insult me anyway |
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tjsnell |
you promised to have me on ignore! |
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tjsnell |
use jackson |
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tjsnell |
and jersey if you're doing rest |
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tjsnell |
2nd most popular is gson (I don't like it) |
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whartung |
I've used both, but not enough to hate either one |
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ilhami |
tjsnell I use gson |
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ilhami |
what I need is to get the inner objects of an array. :) |
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ilhami |
but I think I have a solution |
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ilhami |
ok it somehow works now LOL even though it's a bit bad code. |
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