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ilhami |
:D it depends |
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ilhami |
is anybody here? |
| 00:53 |
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pdurbin |
ilhami: why do you keep asking that? and why do you keep saying "dude"? :) |
| 00:54 |
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ilhami |
bad habit I think. |
| 00:54 |
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ilhami |
org.apache.tomcat.dbcp.dbcp.SQLNestedException: Cannot create JDBC driver of class '' for connect URL 'null' |
| 00:54 |
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ilhami |
what is this? |
| 00:54 |
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GayPro |
dudes <3 |
| 00:55 |
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GayPro |
dude, that's a bad jdbc config string issue probably |
| 00:55 |
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ilhami |
let me show you my context.xml dude |
| 00:57 |
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GayPro |
do you love dudes like me? |
| 00:57 |
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ilhami |
http://pastebin.com/6JjuUeDJ |
| 00:57 |
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ilhami |
what is wrong with this? |
| 00:57 |
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tjsnell |
your url is full of blanks |
| 00:58 |
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tjsnell |
of never mind |
| 00:58 |
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tjsnell |
oh |
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GayPro |
url="jdbc:mysql://**" |
| 00:59 |
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GayPro |
that's wrong |
| 00:59 |
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ilhami |
hahah whats wrong with it? normally it doesnt look like that |
| 00:59 |
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ilhami |
I just put two asterics |
| 00:59 |
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GayPro |
google java jdbc url |
| 00:59 |
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GayPro |
you left several things blank |
| 01:00 |
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ilhami |
because I dont want you to see my DB info |
| 01:00 |
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ilhami |
thats why I removed it |
| 01:00 |
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GayPro |
it's some gay porn? |
| 01:00 |
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ilhami |
no |
| 01:00 |
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ilhami |
are you gay? |
| 01:00 |
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GayPro |
or just top secritz? |
| 01:00 |
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pdurbin |
guys. please |
| 01:00 |
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GayPro |
yes |
| 01:00 |
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ilhami |
please stop being gay :D |
| 01:01 |
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ilhami |
thats a bit gross |
| 01:01 |
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GayPro |
gross!? |
| 01:01 |
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ilhami |
yeah disgusting. |
| 01:01 |
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pdurbin |
GayPro and ilhami: please take this somewhere else. not here in ##javaee |
| 01:01 |
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ilhami |
ok pdurbin :) |
| 01:01 |
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GayPro |
let's get a room lover boy |
| 01:01 |
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ilhami |
so its my url which is wrong? |
| 01:02 |
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GayPro |
google it, compare your secrit url to the correct form |
| 01:04 |
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GayPro |
got to go! back later! |
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* GayPro |
give you a big sloppy kiss |
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ilhami |
:S |
| 01:04 |
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ilhami |
pdurbin warn this guy |
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ilhami |
pdurbin? |
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tjsnell |
bueller? |
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ilhami |
hey guys |
| 12:14 |
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sajjadg |
:-) |
| 12:14 |
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sajjadg |
Hi |
| 12:17 |
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ilhami |
how are you ? |
| 12:21 |
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ilhami |
sajjadg dude.... |
| 12:22 |
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sajjadg |
i'm not OK |
| 12:23 |
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sajjadg |
I have a tongue ache |
| 12:23 |
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sajjadg |
I hardy can talk |
| 12:23 |
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sajjadg |
I hardly can eat |
| 12:23 |
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sajjadg |
:( |
| 12:28 |
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ilhami |
:S |
| 12:28 |
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ilhami |
thats bad |
| 12:28 |
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ilhami |
can you help me with my problem? |
| 12:28 |
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ilhami |
I hope you get better soon |
| 12:30 |
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sajjadg |
I don't know I can or not. you should first ask your question then ask me if I can!? |
| 12:30 |
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sajjadg |
go ahead and ask. people see the question and answer it if they know the answer |
| 12:30 |
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ilhami |
org.apache.tomcat.dbcp.dbcp.SQLNestedException: Cannot create JDBC driver of class '' for connect URL 'null' I keep getting this error |
| 12:31 |
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ilhami |
I asked this yesterday as well |
| 12:31 |
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sajjadg |
what's the url and jdbc driver your are using? |
| 12:32 |
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ilhami |
I am using the jdbc driver. |
| 12:32 |
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ilhami |
oh |
| 12:32 |
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ilhami |
driverClassName="com.mysql.jdbc.Driver" |
| 12:32 |
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ilhami |
I have this |
| 12:32 |
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ilhami |
and I put the jdbc driver into my WEB-INF lib folder |
| 12:32 |
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ilhami |
or sorry. I mean in the Build Path |
| 12:33 |
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ilhami |
I think its not finding my driver |
| 12:34 |
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sajjadg |
ilhami: try this : |
| 12:34 |
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sajjadg |
Class.forName("com.mysql.jdbc.Driver"); |
| 12:34 |
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sajjadg |
Connection conn = null; |
| 12:34 |
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sajjadg |
conn = DriverManager.getConnection("jdbc:mysql://hostname:port/dbname","username", "password"); |
| 12:34 |
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ilhami |
dude I am using a context.xml |
| 12:34 |
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sajjadg |
ilhami: aha. |
| 12:34 |
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ilhami |
so I am not doing this in code. |
| 12:35 |
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ilhami |
should I check the TOMCAT log? :D |
| 12:35 |
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sajjadg |
ilhami: I don't handle the jar files manually and let maven take care of them |
| 12:35 |
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ilhami |
hehe :D |
| 12:36 |
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sajjadg |
it seems your tomcat can't find the right jar files for mysql |
| 12:36 |
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ilhami |
yeah |
| 12:36 |
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sajjadg |
give it the jar then ;) |
| 12:39 |
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ilhami |
mysql-connector-java-5.1.29-bin do you agree with me that this is the name of the jar? |
| 12:40 |
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sajjadg |
mysql-connector-java-5.1.8-bin.jar |
| 12:40 |
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sajjadg |
yeah |
| 12:40 |
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ilhami |
In which folder should this be? |
| 12:40 |
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sajjadg |
mysql-connector-java-{version}-bin.jar |
| 12:43 |
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sajjadg |
/WEB-INF/lib/ |
| 12:43 |
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ilhami |
ok I put it there. |
| 12:44 |
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ilhami |
still the same error .s |
| 12:45 |
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sajjadg |
$CATALINA_HOME/lib |
| 12:46 |
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sajjadg |
https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DOC/Configuring+a+MySQL+Datasource+in+Apache+Tomcat |
| 12:46 |
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ilhami |
where is $CATALINA_HOME ?? |
| 12:46 |
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sajjadg |
http://www.mkyong.com/tomcat/how-to-configure-mysql-datasource-in-tomcat-6/ |
| 12:47 |
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sajjadg |
http://www.mulesoft.com/tcat/tomcat-mysql |
| 12:47 |
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ilhami |
oh wait maybe I know where it is |
| 12:51 |
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ilhami |
are you there? |
| 12:53 |
|
ilhami |
sajjadg ? |
| 12:53 |
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ilhami |
http://pastebin.com/e97a08RW in my server.xml in the conf folder I see this |
| 12:54 |
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ilhami |
should I edit it? |
| 12:54 |
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ilhami |
in the tutorial it says look for Context in that file but I dont see it. I only see this resource. |
| 12:54 |
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ilhami |
in GlobalNamingResources. |
| 12:55 |
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ilhami |
<!-- Editable user database that can also be used by |
| 12:55 |
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ilhami |
UserDatabaseRealm to authenticate users |
| 12:55 |
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ilhami |
--> and the comment above it |
| 12:55 |
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ilhami |
or should I add a Context to it? :D |
| 13:00 |
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ilhami |
still the same error |
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sajjadg_ |
go ahead and add it and see what happens. |
| 13:00 |
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sajjadg_ |
UserDatabaseRealm???!!!! |
| 13:02 |
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ilhami |
I dont think I should :P |
| 13:02 |
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ilhami |
I will mess up the server.xml. |
| 13:02 |
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ilhami |
I tried to add my context to that server.xml |
| 13:02 |
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ilhami |
it still doesnt work |
| 13:05 |
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ilhami |
what is this dude? why doesnt it work? |
| 13:07 |
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sajjadg_ |
don't be scared. |
| 13:08 |
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ilhami |
dude you dont know how much time I have spent on this |
| 13:08 |
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ilhami |
error after error :D |
| 13:08 |
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sajjadg_ |
just keep a backup somewhere |
| 13:09 |
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ilhami |
aaaaaah Tomcat has a channel LOL |
| 13:10 |
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sajjadg_ |
that's what happens with Java ;) |
| 13:10 |
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ilhami |
LOL |
| 13:10 |
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sajjadg_ |
that's why people hate it :P |
| 13:12 |
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tjsnell |
what lib/program is there that doesn't have a vocal group of haters |
| 13:12 |
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tjsnell |
ilhami is our channel LGBT hater |
| 13:13 |
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ilhami |
:D |
| 13:13 |
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ilhami |
do you also hate it? |
| 13:13 |
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tjsnell |
tomcat? nah |
| 13:13 |
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ilhami |
it's probably some small change I need to make to get it working |
| 13:13 |
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tjsnell |
it works well for what it does |
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tjsnell |
typically go jetty though |
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* tjsnell |
hugs Matthijs |
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pdurbin |
tjsnell: please stop |
| 13:29 |
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* Matthijs |
strokes tjsnell's hair affectionately. |
| 13:30 |
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tjsnell |
pdurbin: he has me on ignore |
| 13:30 |
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tjsnell |
and I know Matthijs |
| 13:31 |
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pdurbin |
tjsnell: you are contributing to recent ugliness in this channel: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/crimsonfu/2014-02-25#i_8343749 |
| 13:31 |
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tjsnell |
sorry |
| 13:31 |
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pdurbin |
it's ok. let's just all play nice |
| 13:32 |
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tjsnell |
ilhami spewed massively vile shit, I despise his very being here, he's a liar, a hate monger and evil. But I'll make an effort to keep it in check. |
| 13:32 |
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tjsnell |
hell I even tried to help him yesterday before I realized after weeks of non stop pm's from him I had finally came up with a way to make him stop |
| 13:33 |
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tjsnell |
now I'm done, again sorry :) |
| 13:33 |
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pdurbin |
ilhami: no vile shit in here, please |
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pdurbin |
tjsnell: no more frequent reminders of ilhami's apparent intolerance of and prejudice against homosexuality |
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tjsnell |
and wishes of death on my family members, got it |
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pdurbin |
thanks |
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ilhami |
what did he write? |
| 13:36 |
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ilhami |
I dont see it. If its bad dont write it |
| 13:36 |
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tjsnell |
the truth |
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fabioportieri |
hello |
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ilhami |
hello |
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CJ_ |
pdurbin, Do all freenode channels get logged like that? Or is that specific to this one? |
| 14:04 |
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pdurbin |
CJ_: some channels are logged: http://wiki.greptilian.com/irc/logging |
| 14:06 |
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CJ_ |
Interesting. |
| 14:13 |
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tjsnell |
nice link |
| 14:15 |
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AlexCzar |
I'm trying to find and working example of custom mongo mapper for spring-data-mongodb. I want to replace it with Jackson. |
| 14:16 |
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AlexCzar |
s/and/a/ |
| 14:16 |
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AlexCzar |
ideas? |
| 14:17 |
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tjsnell |
ask cheeser? :) |
| 14:17 |
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CJ_ |
AlexCzar, Have you looked at not using spring-data? I'm directly hitting mongo, albiet not at the level you're planning on. |
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tjsnell |
he's the mongodb guy |
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AlexCzar |
CJ_, yes, and I've decided to use spring-data because I'll have other storage backends in the same application and spring data gives me unified exception tree and other goodies. |
| 14:32 |
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AlexCzar |
unfortunately though spring's mapping is around 40% slower than jackson, so for the time being I use MongoTemplate.execute with callback, in the callback I directly work with DBCollection and convert received DBObjects via Jackson |
| 14:33 |
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AlexCzar |
this deprives me from easy to use mongoTemplate APIs and Spring Data's Repositories. If I could replace the Spring Mapper with Jackson based mapper I would not need the callback 'hack' |
| 14:34 |
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AlexCzar |
except for some advanced low-level features of course (I try to minimize thouse by denormalization, but some still creep in from time to time) |
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AlexCzar |
s/thouse/those |
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CJ_ |
AlexCzar, Interesting. |
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ilhami |
DUDES |
| 14:50 |
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tjsnell |
and dudettes |
| 14:52 |
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Bombe |
GAY DUDES |
| 14:53 |
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pdurbin |
Bombe: please stop: I already asked tjsnell: http://irclog.greptilian.com/javaee/2014-02-26#i_60264 |
| 14:54 |
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ilhami |
pdurbin he is also accusing me for all sorts of stuff. That I am a liar and that I wish death for his family members. |
| 14:55 |
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tjsnell |
all true |
| 14:55 |
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tjsnell |
logs if needed |
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sess |
anyone got any idea why a EJB lookup would fail from a new Thread when the exact same lookup works from the parent thread? |
| 14:55 |
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Bombe |
Yeah, I’m sure those accusations are completely unwarranted. |
| 14:56 |
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ilhami |
Bombe I never wished death for his family members. |
| 14:56 |
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tjsnell |
sess: that shouldn't happen |
| 14:57 |
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tjsnell |
odd |
| 14:58 |
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sess |
I was thinking the same |
| 14:59 |
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ilhami |
org.apache.tomcat.dbcp.dbcp.SQLNestedException: Cannot create JDBC driver of class '' for connect URL 'null' why?????? |
| 15:00 |
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Bombe |
Probably because the class and the URL are gay? |
| 15:00 |
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Bombe |
Er, empty? I meant empty. |
| 15:00 |
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Bombe |
Yes, that is what I meant. |
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fabioportieri |
sess: iirc you can do it only from a servlet thread |
| 15:09 |
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ilhami |
hahah |
| 15:09 |
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pdurbin |
Bombe: please stop it |
| 15:09 |
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ilhami |
Bombe is it because it doesn't see the driver? |
| 15:10 |
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ilhami |
I must admit that pdurbin is doing his job fairly well compared to other OPs |
| 15:12 |
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tjsnell |
doing his job is being the only channel that hasn't perm banned ilhami |
| 15:21 |
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ilhami |
I fixed it :D |
| 15:28 |
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Bombe |
Yeah, doesn’t really sound like an awesome job. |
| 15:30 |
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ilhami |
what? :D |
| 15:36 |
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sess |
tjsnell: btw if you were intrested, looking it up from another thread changed the context i could use for the EJB |
| 15:36 |
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sess |
had to use a different string |
| 15:37 |
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sess |
i.e java:global/myapp/mymodule/bean instead of java:app/mymodule/bean |
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sfisque |
sess were you doing a jndi lookup? if so, different thread should not affect that, jndi lookup is global (unless you're using the "module:" macro |
| 15:45 |
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sess |
sfisque: I was using a lesser context than global, might be jboss specific |
| 15:45 |
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sess |
jboss allows lookup by global, app or module |
| 15:46 |
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sfisque |
they all do, but you should be using global for exactly the reason you just discovered |
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sess |
creating a new thread meant leaving the app apparently |
| 15:46 |
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sfisque |
did you "create" the app or did you get one from the container (aka via @Asynch or MDB)? |
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sfisque |
s/app/thread/ |
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sess |
it's a normal deployed ear |
| 15:47 |
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sfisque |
aye, how was the thread created |
| 15:47 |
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sess |
just a new MyThread(); myThread.run() |
| 15:47 |
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sess |
extending Thread |
| 15:48 |
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sfisque |
oh my. please fix that, and read the chapter on Bean contract in the EE spec |
| 15:48 |
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sess |
this isn't inside a bean |
| 15:48 |
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sess |
it's outside the EJB layer |
| 15:48 |
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sfisque |
ah |
| 15:49 |
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sess |
regardless I'm replacing it with @Asynchronous which seems extremly easy to use |
| 15:49 |
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sfisque |
then yeah, if you're "outside" then context is meaningless for jndi lookup |
| 15:49 |
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sfisque |
aka, use global |
| 15:50 |
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sess |
not sure what jboss determines jndi context from |
| 15:50 |
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sess |
I assumed it was classloader related, and the thread should run in the same classloader i think? |
| 15:50 |
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sfisque |
if the call is from inside the war/jar/ear app: and module: work |
| 15:51 |
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sess |
what determines "inside"? |
| 15:51 |
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sfisque |
global: works all the time |
| 15:51 |
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sfisque |
where is the class executing from |
| 15:51 |
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sess |
the class was inside the EJB module |
| 15:51 |
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sess |
and thus should be inside app context still |
| 15:51 |
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sfisque |
but you spawned it in a thread that puts it outside of the ejb scope |
| 15:52 |
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sfisque |
so it could not live there |
| 15:52 |
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sfisque |
so it was probably executing in the container scope |
| 15:52 |
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sess |
ejb module is a bad name, service module is better |
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sess |
not sure what would determine the "scope"? |
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tjsnell |
sess, sorry I'm now in meeting hell :( |
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sfisque |
in an ee container you only have several scopes. app refers to the EAR. module refers to teh war/jar/sar/rar. global is everything in the container. |
| 15:54 |
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sess |
ah yes |
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sfisque |
when a class executes it's either in a module or executing at the container level |
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sfisque |
container == jdbc driver, jms driver, worker thread, etc. |
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sess |
but my Thread class is inside the same app |
| 15:54 |
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sess |
but the instance is created outside it? |
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sfisque |
right but it's a thread which puts it outside the ejb container, even though it is contained in your ejb jar |
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sfisque |
the object has to be managed by the container for it to execute in the container context |
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sfisque |
aka @Inject, @EJB, jndi lookup, etc. |
| 15:56 |
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sess |
hmmm |
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sess |
makes sense |
| 15:56 |
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sess |
normally all my calls are managed by the container i guess |
| 15:56 |
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sess |
would a simple servlet require global? |
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sfisque |
depends |
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sfisque |
if it's bundled int he same ear, app: would work |
| 15:58 |
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sfisque |
if the ejb's are bundled in teh same war, module will work |
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sess |
what's the difference between a servlet and a new thread then? |
| 15:59 |
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sess |
I have no framework that works at servlet level that I know of |
| 15:59 |
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sess |
@EJB doesn't work etc. |
| 15:59 |
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sfisque |
your thread was "new'ed" and not managed from a pool, unless you use @Asynch |
| 15:59 |
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sfisque |
so it's not a managed object, hence outside the container |
| 15:59 |
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sess |
the servlet would be managed just because tomcat inside jboss created it? |
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sess |
wouldn't that enable @EJB annotations in servlets and such |
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sfisque |
yes |
| 16:01 |
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sfisque |
and tomcat has no ejb container |
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sfisque |
it's JUST servlet |
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sfisque |
you need a "real" container like jboss, glassfish, websphere, etc. for @EJB to work |
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sess |
oh so there's multiple levels of managed |
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sfisque |
no, there are basically 2 types of container in the EE world |
| 16:02 |
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sess |
well I use jboss |
| 16:02 |
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sess |
and jboss uses tomcat for the web parts |
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sfisque |
tomcat, jrun, jetty, == servlet container (just servlets and maybe 1 or two other mechs, like jdbc pooling, etc.) |
| 16:02 |
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sfisque |
what version of jboss? |
| 16:02 |
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sfisque |
because it matters |
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sfisque |
v4.x == EE container |
| 16:03 |
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sfisque |
v5.x == EE container |
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tjsnell |
tomcat is a real container |
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sfisque |
v6.x == web profile |
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sess |
7 |
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tjsnell |
just a servlet container but it's a real one |
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sfisque |
7.0? 7.1>? |
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sess |
7.2 |
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sess |
aka eap 6.1 |
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sfisque |
ah, then @EJB should inject fine in your servlets |
| 16:03 |
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tjsnell |
fruitfly or whatever it is is a jee container :) |
| 16:03 |
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sess |
oh cool, didn't know that |
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sfisque |
if it does not, there is a configuration issue with your app |
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sess |
never tried it too be honest |
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sess |
thanks for the explanation :) |
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ilhami |
hey |
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sfisque |
yes tjs, it is a real "servlet" container, but IMO, a servlet container is pointless, except for toy apps, or the masochistic who hate leveraging existing solutions |
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sfisque |
npnp sess |
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tjsnell |
weird |
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tjsnell |
I've deployed some high value production apps using pointless toys then :) |
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sess |
sfisque: when using spring there's no big reason to go beyond a servlet container |
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sfisque |
the second point. how much time did you spend vetting third party apps and piecing together the platform |
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sfisque |
you still have to swallow the vetting footprint. with an EE stack, it's fully vetted for you. you just run with it |
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sfisque |
i HATE vetting third party libs. |
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sess |
I'd call a full spring stack on top of tomcat pretty much as convenient as a full java EE stack |
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sess |
with spring being testable and more portable |
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tjsnell |
you have to vet the full stack still |
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sfisque |
why? why would i ahve to vet hibernate if jboss has already vetted the version in the container i am running? |
| 16:07 |
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sfisque |
i know it's compatible and upto spec |
| 16:07 |
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sfisque |
otherwise it failes the TCK |
| 16:07 |
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sess |
well that's a two edged blade |
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sess |
it's a bitch to upgrade |
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sfisque |
not since osgi |
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sfisque |
5-10 years ago, yes, a freakish nightmare |
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sfisque |
not anymore |
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sess |
I've tride updating hibernate in jboss 4 instances, not fun |
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sfisque |
jboss 4 == pre-osgi |
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ilhami |
what do you use jboss for? |
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sfisque |
jboss 4 == pleistiocene era |
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sfisque |
:P |
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sess |
so what would you do today? Switch the lib inside the container? Or include your own implementation and instruct the container to not use its own? |
| 16:09 |
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sfisque |
either. depends on what's being upgraded |
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sfisque |
if it's something the container relies on and needs a bug fix, upgrade the global lib. if it's just a feature upgrade for my app, just bundle and set the classloading appropriately |
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sess |
lets say we want JPA 3 |
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sess |
on wildfly |
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sess |
in a few years |
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sfisque |
that might not be viable. you're talking about an API upgrade, not just impl |
| 16:10 |
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sess |
I would really not feel comfortible upgrading internal libraries inside wildfly |
| 16:11 |
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sess |
sure, but API upgrades are sometimes wanted |
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sfisque |
aye but you're also talking about a spec change. that container wouldn't be to that spec |
| 16:11 |
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sfisque |
aye but you'd probabl need a newer container |
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sess |
even if only the implementation was upgraded, I wouldn't feel comfortible switching out wildflys internal libraries |
| 16:11 |
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sess |
the whole thing would be a non issue with spring |
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sess |
thus my portability statement :) |
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sess |
I'm a bit biased probably because I spent the last year migrating multiple apps from old servers to newer jboss versions |
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sess |
OC4J -> jboss7 was pretty big |
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sfisque |
well, you're also talking API changes, spec changes, and "feature bleed" (aka using orm level annotations, etc.) |
| 16:14 |
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sess |
those are all part of reality |
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sfisque |
the key there is, did the original devs provide you good isolation of the "sharp edges" or was it a mess? |
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sess |
of the app? |
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sess |
or server? |
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ilhami |
I have a question.. if I want to upload my web project/web service which I made in Eclispe to my http server. Do I just create a .jar file which runs on the server and upload it? |
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sess |
what server/container? what kind of packaging? |
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ilhami |
I have made a Dynamic Web Project in Eclipse |
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sess |
i have no idea what that is |
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ilhami |
and I want to upload it somehow. It contains servlets and all that |
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sess |
java ee? spring? simple servlets? |
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sess |
you need to make a WAR |
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sess |
and deploy it on a proper container |
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ilhami |
oh okay. |
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ilhami |
thanks I will look into WARs |
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sess |
a WAR is just a JAR with a specific structure |
| 16:23 |
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sess |
Eclipse most likely has support to make one |
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sfisque |
any modern ide will build a war/jar/ear with just a couple mouse clicks. unfortunately, rar/sar treatment is lacking afaict |
| 16:25 |
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sess |
I only use maven or in worst case Ant so :> |
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tjsnell |
but using maven is better |
| 16:25 |
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sess |
never tried it |
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sfisque |
aye but all the ide's just hand off to ant/maven also, so it's the same mech. even idea just uses ant/maven under the hood |
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tjsnell |
but relying on your ide to do your builds 1 - ties you to that ide for everyone on the project, 2 - only allows you to build from a machine that's running the ide |
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sfisque |
not for many years. i know netbeans builds can be done from the CLI because it's just ant/maven task/target calls |
| 16:29 |
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sfisque |
idea same deal |
| 16:29 |
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sfisque |
not sure on eclipse. |
| 16:29 |
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sess |
had no idea about that |
| 16:29 |
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sfisque |
but eclipse eats ass anywah |
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sfisque |
:P |
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tjsnell |
just use maven |
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sess |
yeah i hate eclipse |
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sess |
:( |
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AlexCzar |
I learned java in Netbeans, then I tried to adopt eclipse thrice (once a year) and failed. Then I switched to IDEA, 1 week of accomodation later my coding/debugging/younameit productivity noticeably improved |
| 16:34 |
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sfisque |
yeah. when i have the money to spend, i love IDEA. for freebie, i'm a Netbeans dude |
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sess |
+1 |
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AlexCzar |
sfisque, there is a community version, also if you just ask nicely jetbrains will give you 15-25% discount |
| 16:36 |
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sess |
community version doesn't support java EE though |
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sfisque |
aye. but i've found the CE version is clunky after having used several of the commercial versions |
| 16:36 |
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sfisque |
the commercial version is VERY polished |
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AlexCzar |
can't argue with that |
| 16:37 |
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sfisque |
i find NB less clunky than the CE version, though the spendy version is primo if you have the $$ |
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ilhami |
I will start using IDEA after this project. |
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tjsnell |
or qualify for a free license :) |
| 16:47 |
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sfisque |
yes. if you're doing non-profit work you can get a freebie license |
| 16:47 |
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tjsnell |
or oss work |
| 16:47 |
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tjsnell |
my apache email address got me one :) |
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tjsnell |
but I have a couple of paid keys too |
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tjsnell |
I don't mind paying for tools |
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ilhami |
I am going to do profit work. How much will I have to pay then? |
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sfisque |
aye, but i have to keep it to "opportunity" purchases. i can't just willy nilly go buying every license i WANT :P |
| 16:51 |
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sfisque |
idea ranges from about 100-500 a seat |
| 16:51 |
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sfisque |
roughly |
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sfisque |
usd |
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ilhami |
thats not cheap. |
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* sfisque |
nods |
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sfisque |
you get what you pay for. it's worth it. but like you said, it's not cheap |
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ilhami |
Eclipse is free, right? no matter what? |
| 16:52 |
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sfisque |
eclipse, netbeans, idea CE all free |
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tjsnell |
$500 is cheap in the scheme of things |
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tjsnell |
if you believe it'll help a programmer be more productive |
| 16:53 |
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sfisque |
well, yes it's cheaper than buying a sunfire |
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ilhami |
I mean Eclipse is really slow but not that bad. |
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AlexCzar |
ilhami, independent develoepr license is $200 |
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tjsnell |
if Idea lets a developer be 5% more productive than Eclipse then Idea is massively cheaper than Idea |
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tjsnell |
err |
| 16:54 |
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tjsnell |
if Idea lets a developer be 5% more productive than Eclipse then Idea is massively cheaper than Eclipse |
| 16:54 |
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sfisque |
depends. are you getting salary or billing by the hour ;-D |
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ilhami |
so I have a .war file now? What now? can I just upload it to my remote server? |
| 16:54 |
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sfisque |
ilhami yes |
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sfisque |
deploy to container, watch the magic |
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AlexCzar |
for me eclipse is unusable. if not IDEA, then I'll use Nb, but under no curcumstances I'll use eclipse on a daily basis |
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sfisque |
oooohhhhh |
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sfisque |
aaaaaahhhhhh |
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ilhami |
that was kind of easy. With 2 clicks I got the war :D |
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sfisque |
magic |
| 16:55 |
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sfisque |
BLACK |
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tjsnell |
sfisque: I'm speaking from the perspective of someone that hires developers |
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sfisque |
MAGIC |
| 16:55 |
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sfisque |
!~!!! |
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ilhami |
:S |
| 16:55 |
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ilhami |
bad |
| 16:55 |
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sfisque |
aye tjs, i was being snarky :P |
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tjsnell |
but as a consultant it's morally on me to be as productive as possible :) |
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sfisque |
aye, but we can definitely joke about billing for hours spent watchign spinning beachballs :P |
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ilhami |
file uploaded. |
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ilhami |
so now I just write its path in a browser? |
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sfisque |
http://hostname:8080/context_name_of_webapp |
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tjsnell |
I'm billing now sitting in meeting hell |
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sfisque |
or if you didnt configure a context name, http://hostname:8080/war_name |
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ilhami |
ok ok let me try :D |
| 16:57 |
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sfisque |
:-D |
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ilhami |
it opens a dialog |
| 16:58 |
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ilhami |
if I want to open or save |
| 16:58 |
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ilhami |
I dont want that |
| 16:58 |
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ilhami |
:S |
| 16:59 |
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sfisque |
mime-type mismatch |
| 16:59 |
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ilhami |
so what do I do? :S |
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ilhami |
but dude inside it I have a index.jsp which I want to open. How can I do that? |
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tjsnell |
dude! |
| 17:01 |
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sfisque |
dude! |
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ilhami |
yes? |
| 17:01 |
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ilhami |
dude |
| 17:01 |
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ilhami |
? |
| 17:01 |
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sfisque |
duuuuude.... |
| 17:01 |
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ilhami |
stop saying dude. :D get to the point. |
| 17:02 |
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sfisque |
duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude...... |
| 17:02 |
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ilhami |
Whats the point of downloading it? :S I want to use it on the server. |
| 17:02 |
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ilhami |
haha |
| 17:02 |
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tjsnell |
use bro instead |
| 17:02 |
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sfisque |
brah..... |
| 17:03 |
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ilhami |
???????????????????????????????????????????????? :D |
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tjsnell |
~bras++ |
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AlexCzar |
miss javabot goodies? :) |
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ilhami |
I don't get it dude. |
| 17:05 |
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ilhami |
What can I use this .war file for? I want to access index.jsp which produces a JSON object. |
| 17:06 |
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ilhami |
it's inside the .war I guess. |
| 17:06 |
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ilhami |
and do I need to upload the tomcat server to my server as well? |
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* sfisque |
puts his drink down, and hides behind the sofa |
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tjsnell |
too late |
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ilhami |
dude come back |
| 17:11 |
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tjsnell |
duuuuude |
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sfisque |
nobody here but us dust bunnies |
| 17:11 |
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sfisque |
and this moldy cracker |
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tjsnell |
lunch! |
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sfisque |
>.< |
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whartung |
I'm not here, that's for sure. uh uh. |
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sess |
ilhami: you dont access a jsp directly |
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sess |
you access a servlet that serves the compiled version of the jsp |
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ilhami |
yeah I have a servlet inside my .war file |
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ilhami |
how can I access it? |
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tjsnell |
dude! |
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neuro_sys |
dude... |
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ilhami |
yes? |
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* whartung |
looks longingly at the "Head First Servlets and JSP" book -- and weeps. |
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sfisque |
javaeebot google learn jsp servlet tutorial simple walk through |
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javaeebot |
sfisque: A Tutorial on Java Servlets and Java Server Pages (JSP): <http://aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu/~hall/java/Servlet-Tutorial/>; Serlvets & JSP - Java: <http://java.cnam.fr/iagl/biblio/Serlvets%20&%20JSP%20-%20Falkner%20Jones.pdf>; JSP Tutorial - Tutorials Point: <http://www.tutorialspoint.com/jsp/>; Struts 2 Tutorial - Tutorials Point: <http://www.tutorialspoint.com/struts_2/>; Hibernate and JPA: An (2 more messages) |
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ducks behind the sofa again |
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Naros |
any of you guys ever tried to access ServletActionContext in a OGNL property tag in Struts? |
| 17:40 |
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Naros |
cannot seem to access it's static methods |
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sfisque |
i do not believe class methods are exposed in jsp |
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sfisque |
via tags |
| 17:41 |
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Naros |
according to OGNL they are |
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Naros |
I should be able to do <s:property value="org.apache.struts2.ServletActionContext getActionMapping().namespace" /> |
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sfisque |
if so that's cool. i always hated having to proxy static methods to make jsf and tiles happy |
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Naros |
but no matter what syntax i use, i cannot get the static method to invoke :S |
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Naros |
oh wait, maybe i need to wrap it with attrs, let me try that |
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Naros |
nope |
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sfisque |
u using struts2? |
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Naros |
yah |
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sfisque |
http://struts.apache.org/release/2.3.x/docs/ognl-basics.html (half way down) |
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sfisque |
looks like you have to prefix the class ref with @ also |
| 17:44 |
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sfisque |
so @org.apache….. |
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Naros |
my v6 branch code uses @package.ConstantsKEY_NAME |
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Naros |
I've tried that too |
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Naros |
I guess I could just write the jsps and omit the namespace |
| 17:45 |
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Naros |
it defaults to the current namespace but i kinda wanted to make sure I enforced what i wanted. |
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sfisque |
is namespace a key in the mapping? |
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sfisque |
"namespace" |
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sfisque |
or is it an attribute of the mapping object |
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Naros |
sorta yah. basically its a way to package actions together |
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sfisque |
right but is it a key or an attribute |
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Naros |
I want to create some jsps that are gonna be shared across namespace boundaries. |
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sfisque |
my question stands |
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Naros |
oh namespace is a property on a static method that returns the mapping object |
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Naros |
ServletActionContext.getActionMapping().getNamespace() |
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sfisque |
ok |
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Naros |
where action mapping is static |
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sfisque |
that's what i was wondering |
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Naros |
docs seem to lead me to believe i can access it |
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sfisque |
maybe "actionMapping" rather than "getActionMapping" |
| 17:48 |
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Naros |
tried that variant as well |
| 17:48 |
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sfisque |
OH |
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sfisque |
@classmethodmethod |
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sfisque |
try that |
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Naros |
tried that too |
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sfisque |
ok |
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sfisque |
well, damn |
| 17:48 |
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sfisque |
maybe a bug? |
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sfisque |
configuration issue? |
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Naros |
ive even just tried to get the ActionMapping object and nada |
| 17:48 |
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sfisque |
stars are wrong? |
| 17:48 |
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Naros |
or maybe that object is somehow protected |
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sfisque |
oh is it on the stack? |
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Naros |
it should be |
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sfisque |
how is it being put into the value stack for struts/tiles to use |
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Naros |
i'd have to dig through their interceptors to find that out |
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sfisque |
oh so it's being done explicitly |
| 17:49 |
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sfisque |
maybe the interceptor isnt firing? |
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Naros |
in actions i just access the class as i said earlier, "ServletActionContext.getActionMapping()" |
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sfisque |
put in some logging or a break point |
| 17:49 |
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Naros |
i would think i could do the same in the JSP |
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sfisque |
well, bear in mind that jsp is evaluated at runtime, it's not compiled with all the pointers resolved |
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Naros |
nod but if my custom final constants class works, i would think shoudl too |
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Naros |
But my constant class just holds a bnch of props |
| 17:51 |
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Naros |
not methods |
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Naros |
i'll play with it; gotta work i would think unless they either added some security things i have enabled in the 7 branch that are disasbled in my 6 branch. |
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Naros |
fyi: @org.apache.struts2.ServletActionContextACTION_MAPPING works to get a property |
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Naros |
lol ding ding ding |
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sfisque |
spill |
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Naros |
struts.ognl.allowStaticMethods must be enabled to do it |
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Naros |
silly access constant that is disabled by default |
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ah. you forgot to set the CORE_DUMP_ON_LAUNCH resource to faluse |
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sfisque |
**false |
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Naros |
:P |
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sfisque |
:D |
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Naros |
So i guess alternative is just to expose the value through a base action property instead |
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Naros |
rather than enable that |
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sfisque |
aye. proxies |
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Naros |
nod :( |
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sfisque |
because having instance methods return static values is A W E S O M E |
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lol yah |
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Hi |
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I want to make a jasper report after getting some date range parameters and which collumn to sort the report by, from user (at jsp), then create the report according to those parameters. I am using spring 3, hibernate, jasperstudio. Any one can brief me the methodology ? |
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I would have to use JPQL to make some queries from my different entities. |
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Voyage |
In this link, only one entity (user) is used for generating report. What if I want to make a proper JPQL query e.g joining multiple tables or columns and then generate a report. http://keytotechnologies.blogspot.com/2013/02/jasper-report-spring-hibernate-example.html |
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Hey |
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ilhami |
anybody here? |
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ilhami |
I have a new server. The server I tried to upload the .war to was a plain http apache server |
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now I have a server that supports Tomcat |
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ilhami, first, you need tomcat or jetty, or any other servlet copntainer, not "a server that supports tomcat" |
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ilhami |
I have tomcat |
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ilhami |
:) |
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installed on localhost |
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ilhami |
so I guess I can just move it to my new server |
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ilhami |
right? |
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yeah, why not. |
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do I need to change the server.xml before deploying it? |
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I have a servlet that needs to create a new bean every time someone makes a get request. What is the best way to handle this in spring? |
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ilhami |
Bombe :D |
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ilhami |
I have a new server now. |
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AlexCzar |
CJ_, request-scoped bean |
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CJ_ |
Oh, right. I forgot you could do that. Thanks. |
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you're welcome :) |
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But I still need to call the appcontext to get the bean. |
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So prototype will do the same thing. |
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Because my servlet isn't a spring bean. |
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ilhami |
AlexCzar actually Tomcat is already installed on my new server. I dont even need to deploy it :D |
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AlexCzar |
CJ_, if your servlet is not configured by spring, then yes, you'd have to call getBean and specify your prototype bean as a parameter |
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waz |
yay freenode DOS fun |
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If I configure my servlet via spring, that I have to implement HttpRequestHandler. As such, I have to do the checking to determine if it's a GET, POST, etc. Correct? |
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ilhami |
Yes |
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ilhami |
I think you do |
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Voyage_ |
I want to make a jasper report after getting some date range parameters and which collumn to sort the report by, from user (at jsp), then create the report according to those parameters. I am using spring 3, hibernate, jasperstudio. Any one can brief me the methodology ? |
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Voyage_ |
I would have to use JPQL to make some queries from my different entities. |
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Voyage_ |
In this link, only one entity (user) is used for generating report. What if I want to make a proper JPQL query e.g joining multiple tables or columns and then generate a report. http://keytotechnologies.blogspot.com/2013/02/jasper-report-spring-hibernate-example.html |
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ilhami |
anybody here? |
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nope |
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tjsnell |
empty channel |
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tjsnell |
always with the insightful questions |
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tjsnell |
btw - reading the logs is cheating. You're not ignoring me, you're delaying reading me |
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whartung |
I'm ignoring you…but, that's just me. and you. we. |
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:D |
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tjsnell |
dude! |
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Haha, is he really doing that? |
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Bombe |
That’s quite pathetic. |
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tjsnell |
he quoted me today :) |
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i have a view that represents the latest prices for different tickers. in jpa how would i get that into a just a list of some type of entity that represents the view. it very closely matches my entity but its not quite the same (for instance, no ID) |
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