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fornax_ |
hi, is here someone that can help me answering a few questions conceding web services? |
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pdurbin |
fornax_: what are your questions? |
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fornax_ |
I always used sockets, corba, rim etc in my old projects but now have the problem that due to the lack of java rmi on android, I need to find a new communication mechanism. I read much about web services and know that there is jax-rs, jax-ws, axis etc. but I have absolutely no idea what to use for which scenarios |
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fornax_ |
I read on so many pages but I cannot find a good starting point. I have an embedded system and was able to use jersey on grizzly to provide jax-rs2 web services but I'm unsure if there is a simpler way to create a server and client without writing all programatically |
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fornax_ |
Is there for example a simple ways to define my methods with parameters, for example Lists etc., annotate them and then automatically create a client for this service? |
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pdurbin |
fornax_: I've been playing with jax-rs to make REST services with JSON. it's nice |
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fornax_ |
which ice did you use for it? |
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fornax_ |
I was able to create the service and access it via browser but I did not find a way yet to easily create the corresponding client. I do not think that this needs to be manually done |
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pdurbin |
create a REST client? |
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fornax_ |
Yes, for jax-rs2 |
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fornax_ |
I used intellij, clicked on the class where I added the jax-rs2 annotations and selected Create Webservice Client but now I have a very long list with different ways to create a wsdl file and non of them seem to work. I think there are soooo many different web service implementations that I do not really know where to start |
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fornax_ |
Maybe you know some resource where I find a comparison or good explanation how to create a server and client in a simple way? I think jax-rs2 is a good choice when I see speed comparison charts |
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pdurbin |
you seem to be looking for an automatic way to make the client... I'd probably just code it up |
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fornax_ |
okay, so you parse the response manually? |
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pdurbin |
yeah |
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pdurbin |
desktop or mobile client? |
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fornax_ |
android |
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fornax_ |
okay, in the second step I also need it for a desktop java fx and iOS project |
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pdurbin |
so ideally, there would be a tool that would somehome define your API for you on the server side and create those three clients for you (or at least stub out the API calls) |
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fornax_ |
okay, but there is no real standard for such a tool? I was hoping that this is more simple to use. The next problems will be how to realize event handling and authentication |
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pdurbin |
not that i know of |
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pdurbin |
fornax_: rmi used to solve all these problems for you? |
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fornax_ |
with rim i was able to solve the problems but rmi is not available for android or iOS etc. |
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pdurbin |
fornax_: so you could imagine doing the javafx client using rmi? |
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fornax_ |
it makes not much sense because I want to use the same technology for all clients |
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fornax_ |
rim only works for the jfx client but i need android and iOS too, android in the first step |
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pdurbin |
sure, I'm just wondering how easy it would be. you make it sound easy. I've only used rmi a tiny bit years ago in a class |
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fornax_ |
I was able to wrap RMI and even to delegate events as if they were locally. This was very easy to use but implementing RMI on android won't be possible. However, I just realized that i can create a wadl file for restful services. Now I have to figure out how to create the client for it |
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pdurbin |
fornax_: cool. hope it works |
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fornax_ |
this all cannot be so hard, but the documentation is so bad that it is nearly impossible to start. I will try to switch lamps over my raspberry pi via android in the first step, hope I have it this night |
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pdurbin |
ok |
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* pdurbin |
looks at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1312087/what-is-the-reason-for-using-wadl |
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fornax_ |
thank you, it seems to me that I will have to invest a bit more time into this topic. Collections, auth, other programming languages etc. |
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can this be done in jsp ? http://www.primefaces.org/showcase/ui/treeTable.jsf |
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firebird1 |
i should generate a able on click of field it shuld edit ? which primeface is that ? |
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firebird1 |
table* |
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firebird1 |
? |
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sfisque |
yes, primefaces datatable supports in-cell editing |
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acuzio |
primefaces ha |
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firebird1 |
to display japanese characters how to do in jsf ? |
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firebird1 |
i'm supportin 3 languages russian,japanese and english |
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firebird1 |
its not displaying in UTF-8 format |
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firebird1 |
now its displaying utf-8 but i'm getting same view :( |
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firebird1 |
:'( |
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firebird1 |
1 MORE THING how to send utf-8 values from program ? to property files ? |
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firebird1 |
i ask lot of doubts :/ |
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pdurbin |
firebird1: you've read through stuff like this? The Java EE 7 Tutorial:Providing Localized Messages and Labels | Java EE Documentation - http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/7/tutorial/doc/webi18n002.htm |
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sajjadg |
UTF-8 and UTF-16 have Japanese support. maybe there's something wrong with the servlet container |
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pdurbin |
firebird1: are you using glassfish? |
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sfisque |
isnt japanese utf-16 only? i thought chinese/japanese were multibyte glyphs |
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pdurbin |
chinese didn't work for me with utf-8: http://serverfault.com/questions/325812/why-are-chinese-traditional-big-5-fonts-served-up-by-apache-garbled/325815#325815 |
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sajjadg |
wikipedia said UTF-8 supports Japanese. but don't trust my mind. I think I'm near to have amnesia! |
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pdurbin |
sajjadg: I don't trust your mind either ;) |
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sajjadg |
:-) |
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sfisque |
ah, so you can encode mulit-byte glyphs in utf-8, it just requires extra "metadata" bytes in the encodings |
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sfisque |
looking at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-8 |
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whartung |
yea, UTF-8 can encode all of unicode |
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^ |
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sfisque |
whartung aye, that was eye opening to me. i was under the impression that utf-X defined the width of the glyph set, but in fact it just defines the width of the encoding data points |
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whartung |
si |
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whartung |
how much huffman encoding needs to go on |
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sfisque |
or meta padding going in th opposite direction |
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whartung |
si |
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whartung |
so you scumming wifi out side of a starbuck sfisque, or have you managed to get gainfully employed again? |
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sfisque |
ROFL, still "on the government cheese line", but no need for eating public wifi, i have commercial grade pipe into the house (12/5 mbps) |
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sfisque |
though the concept of cafe coding does sound sexy at times, get some quiet time away from the kids |
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whartung |
yea, but the seats suck |
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sfisque |
maybe, but portland is land |
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sfisque |
land o' cafes |
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whartung |
chairs too deep, table to tall, loose sugar gumming up the mouse |
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sfisque |
lots of mom-n-pop shops with comfy couches |
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whartung |
you're in portland? |
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sfisque |
aye. pdx :-) |
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whartung |
ah, some reason I thought you were in bay area |
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whartung |
one of our guys lives in portland |
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whartung |
I'za been there once meeself |
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sfisque |
it's a great little city (or big town, depending on how you look at it) |
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whartung |
I ate waffles out of a trailer |
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sfisque |
yah. food carts are becoming quite a phenom here. we had them at my uni back east, so it's funny to see them in a "non-campus" environment |
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sfisque |
anywho, i need to take a nap so i can finally shake this cold i'm fighting. be well all! |
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whartung |
kk cold strong! :) |
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acuzio |
whartung: You are one of the saving graces of this channel - and i mean that sincerely. |
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whartung |
what did I do wrong now? |
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acuzio |
nothing - you give good, solid advice |
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whartung |
ah, ok…thanks! |
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