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sajjadg |
pdurbin: they accepted my request for that workshop! about software development techniques! |
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firebird1 |
hi any tut on jasper reports ? |
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firebird1 |
i dont like tomcat its almost n times clear tomcat directory |
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neuro_sys |
man, I love automating every shit |
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firebird1 |
if you get same behavior after changing faces-config.xml clear the directory! |
| 09:19 |
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firebird1 |
n times |
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firebird1 |
:P |
| 09:28 |
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acuzio |
Software development techniques ? |
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acuzio |
wow |
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neuro_sys |
:^) |
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sess |
is it frowned upon to package EJBs in a WAR these days? |
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sess |
converting an EAR ant project to maven, and packaging EARs with maven is a bitch |
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sajjadg |
acuzio: scary to me too :P that's just an overview on some popular techniques big companies use |
| 10:07 |
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acuzio |
sajjadg: usually it means some folks do not have anything to do |
| 10:08 |
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sajjadg |
acuzio: what? I didn't get it! |
| 10:09 |
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acuzio |
Anyone who either proposes or attends a seminar on "Software Development Techniques" has got lots of free time |
| 10:11 |
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sajjadg |
acuzio: yeah. of course :-) they are attending the conference and they have time to come to that workshop :) and maybe a company wants to send their employee and make them learn something new. here the companies are so old and antique |
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acuzio |
You are part of that Pakistan group i take it |
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sajjadg |
acuzio: I'm not Pakistani |
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neuro_sys |
yet another paki duck |
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acuzio |
:-) |
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neuro_sys |
this purple salad thing tastes delicious |
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neuro_sys |
purple cabbage I think |
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sajjadg |
but I'm close to them :P Iran |
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acuzio |
Iran is not close to Pakistan |
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acuzio |
unless you consider all Muslims are close to each other |
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sajjadg |
acuzio: Iran and Pakistan are neighbors! who they are not close? I meant geographically :-) In case of economy and political and educational they may differ. UN HDI shows Iran higher than Pakistan |
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sajjadg |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index |
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acuzio |
I didnt mean Geographically i meant via HDI, politics, economics and other factors . Iran is a country , Pakistan is a cesspool of shit |
| 11:27 |
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sajjadg |
acuzio: :-) In that case... poor people. I know some pakistani. one trademan and some programmer. and I know that Pakistan have nuclear bomb! and knows how to build them. |
| 11:28 |
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sajjadg |
like India inequality is very high in there in Pakistan. that's the problem. |
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acuzio |
Yes ; its a known fact that Pakistan is capable of building a "muslim" bomb - but the practical usages of that are nil. |
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acuzio |
India has other problems but a functioning democracy is not one of them |
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sajjadg |
some group of Muslim are shitting in middle east. Al Quadea and Takfiri groups among them are the worst |
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sajjadg |
they don't know humanity |
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sajjadg |
and as long as they have western support, it's hard to remove them and let these countries develop |
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sajjadg |
it's hard to invade and rob a developed country ;) |
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acuzio |
I dont really understand what you just said - but thats ok |
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sajjadg |
:-) here in Iran the people are so much political. we love politic in here and so we follow them closely. |
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sajjadg |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Failed_States_Index |
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sajjadg |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_top_international_rankings_by_country |
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pdurbin |
acuzio: if you'd refrain from referring to entire nations as "a cesspool of shit" I'd appreciate it |
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pdurbin |
sajjadg: good luck on your talk |
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acuzio |
pdurbin: Its the standard nomenclature used when describing Pakistan, Sudan, and countries of that ilk - just read Foreign Review |
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sajjadg |
pdurbin: thanks man. I should read a lot and prepare myself. I don't know who attends the workshop. students, teachers, developers. I should prepare myself to change the talk according to the atmosphere of the attendees |
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firebird1 |
seriously there is a problem ! |
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firebird1 |
my other ip got blocked |
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SN3 |
I am currently doing most of my programming in PHP and things work out good so far. Is there any reason why one would switch to Java EE? |
| 15:51 |
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sfisque |
clustering. better "distributed computing" model |
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sfisque |
faster execution, perl is interpreted at execution time |
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sfisque |
maintenance footprint. it is far easier to write unintelligible code in perl (php) |
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SN3 |
sfisque, as for faster execution, would some one really see a fiddeence for a small to medium website? |
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SN3 |
difference* |
| 15:53 |
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sfisque |
probably not if you're talking only couple 100 page hits per hour |
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sfisque |
or even 1000's |
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SN3 |
sfisque, so when does it get interesting to use Java EE? over 50k/hour? |
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sajjadg |
SN3: my reason to coming back to Java from PHP was that I couldn't stand its syntax. I love Java syntax! |
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sfisque |
SN3 i'm not sure of where the specific cut off is, but if you're targetting an HA deployment, i do not think php will scale appropriately without building a custom framework to remove all the bottlenecks associated with using interpreted scripts |
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fabioportieri |
what does the symbol $ mean inside a jsf EL ?? it's unified expression language perhaps? |
| 16:46 |
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fabioportieri |
like in binding="#{iscritto$dettaglioPosizioneIscrittoIndividuale.refresh1}" |
| 18:17 |
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sfisque |
inner class fabioprotieri |
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sfisque |
inner classes are defined as OuterClass$InnerClass.class |
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sfisque |
if you look at the directory where your artifacts are deposited, you['ll see any inner classes built like that |
| 18:19 |
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sfisque |
since the default "Name" of a managed instance is camel humped class name, you'll see that unless you annotate the class with a specific name e.g. @Named( "myNameIsMud" ) |
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fabioportieri |
thanks but mistery solved already |
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fabioportieri |
it was just a convention |
| 18:24 |
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fabioportieri |
in faces-config the dev renamed every bean with the name of the package plus "$" plus the className |
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sfisque |
ick |
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sfisque |
glad you found it |
| 18:26 |
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fabioportieri |
maybe he thought that jsf EL looked too nice and he wanted to throw some garbage inside it, just to make people what-the-fucking |
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sfisque |
things like that make my eyeballs twitch. we had a dev here who insisted on explicitly naming faces beans with Caps. like ThisIsAnInstance.anAttribute. very annoying |
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sfisque |
lolz, maybe fabioportieri |
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fabioportieri |
ehe |
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hseg |
Hi. Is it OK if my classpath is empty? Or will it cause me trouble? |
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semiosis |
if your classpath is empty, you can't load any classes |
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sfisque |
sort of |
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sfisque |
if his classpath is empty all he'll get is the cwd and the default libs |
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hseg |
OK. Debian seems to ship openjdk without setting a classpath. What should I set it to? |
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sfisque |
whatever your project requires. usually you do this in your ant/maven build file |
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hseg |
Damn it. I'm trying to build a large upstream program, and it's failing. |
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hseg |
And I have no idea how I'm supposed to build it correctly. |
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sfisque |
are you using ant, maven, or a hand rolled shell script to build? |
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hseg |
maven. I'm using upstream's script. |
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sfisque |
javaeebot lucky upstream java |
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javaeebot |
sfisque: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9374284/how-does-upstream-and-downstream-handlers-work-in-netty |
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sfisque |
hrm. what is "upstream"? |
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hseg |
The people who developed the program. |
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hseg |
i.e. the authors. |
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hseg |
Specifically, I'm trying to build Sakai (sakaiproject.org). |
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hseg |
And am using their scripts. |
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sfisque |
are you consuming compiled libs or maven dependencies? |
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hseg |
Maven deps. |
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sfisque |
so how is it failing? |
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sfisque |
specifically what kind of failure is coming up in the build |
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hseg |
In that, when I try to start the any of the tomcat webapps it builds, it complains that it can't find some classes. |
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sfisque |
ah. so it's a deploy failure then? i'm guessing the "bundling" is failing to put all the necessary libs in the war file |
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hseg |
Probably. |
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hseg |
It seems that they do install stuff to CATALINA_HOME/common, and expect them to be available. |
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SN3 |
when to use java ee over php? |
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