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pdurbin |
semiosis: sorry. I was confused. There's nothing I want in the desktop App Store. Everything I want is in homebrew :) |
| 00:38 |
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yue_ |
very hungry |
| 01:05 |
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whartung |
then...eat |
| 01:06 |
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yue_ |
well my gf is not here and dont know to cook |
| 01:06 |
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whartung |
you can't make toast? |
| 01:06 |
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whartung |
you don't have a bowl of cereal? |
| 01:07 |
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yue_ |
no |
| 01:07 |
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whartung |
do you have eggs? |
| 01:07 |
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yue_ |
i'm a veg |
| 01:08 |
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whartung |
what do you have in your refrigerator? |
| 01:08 |
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yue_ |
its empty |
| 01:08 |
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whartung |
I guess you're going to die then. |
| 01:09 |
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whartung |
does you gf only bring home food enough for one meal? |
| 01:09 |
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whartung |
These are criticisms my cat's give me. "What you didn't put enough food in the bowl -- what if you don't come back!?!?" |
| 01:10 |
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yue_ |
she must be here by now |
| 01:11 |
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yue_ |
k men best friend water :) |
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pdurbin |
whartung: wow, you're helpful :) |
| 01:14 |
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whartung |
I'm a giver |
| 01:15 |
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pdurbin |
whartung: What features do you want in Java EE 8? Oracle is running a survey: https://blogs.oracle.com/theaquarium/entry/we_need_your_help_java |
| 01:15 |
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whartung |
"Shipping" |
| 01:15 |
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whartung |
oh |
| 01:15 |
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whartung |
jave EE 8 |
| 01:15 |
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whartung |
not java 8 |
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| 01:17 |
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whartung |
augh! |
| 01:17 |
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whartung |
"To meet this objective, we will define interfaces that are integrated with the Java security model and that enable a declarative application programming style. " |
| 01:17 |
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pdurbin |
yeah, Jave EE 8 |
| 01:17 |
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whartung |
NO! |
| 01:18 |
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whartung |
who the heck wants to hard code this stuff in to their app. |
| 01:18 |
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whartung |
that's theIdentity API |
| 01:19 |
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pdurbin |
yeah. JSR 351: Java Identity API Specification: Wiki: Home — Project Kenai - https://java.net/projects/identity-api-spec/pages/Home (apparently) |
| 01:19 |
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whartung |
I want "Deploys to not suck" |
| 01:20 |
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pdurbin |
:) |
| 01:20 |
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whartung |
what is this |
| 01:20 |
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whartung |
Should we investigate standardizing a client API for Thin Server Architecture? |
| 01:22 |
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whartung |
I'm marking everything "Not Sure" since it's the only way to preview the survey |
| 01:23 |
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* yue_ |
love hibernate |
| 01:23 |
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whartung |
that's just the starvation talking yue_ |
| 01:23 |
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yue_ |
whartung: you might be right |
| 01:24 |
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pdurbin |
whartung: yeah, I'd prefer the survey to be all on one page to preview it |
| 01:25 |
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whartung |
I must be off, we can chatter about this thing tomorrow. |
| 01:25 |
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whartung |
"It's 2014 -- should we standardize a MVC component now, after 14 years?" |
| 01:25 |
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whartung |
O.o |
| 01:25 |
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pdurbin |
heh |
| 01:25 |
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pdurbin |
whartung: I'm using your "Not Sure" trick too :) |
| 01:26 |
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whartung |
tty'all tomorrow. |
| 01:26 |
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whartung |
go outside and get some food yue_ -- have your gf bring home extra next time. |
| 01:26 |
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* whartung |
always carries food. |
| 01:29 |
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* yue_ |
hugs whartung and goes outside |
| 02:08 |
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pdurbin |
whartung: there. now at least we can see the whole Java EE 8 feature survey on a single page, thanks to the miracle of copy and paste: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nmU-WGxG1GlWQW9gCF9mzzWfS8RuRRCv4s1D_AF_PLc/edit?usp=sharing :) |
| 02:09 |
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pdurbin |
I added headings for the major sections (new JSRs, CDI, NoSQL, etc.) but otherwise it's as-is... if anyone wants to help edit the doc and make it more readable please just let me know |
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| 15:15 |
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semiosis |
following up on my javafx/mac app store issue... found help on twitter & got confirmation that a custom build of openjdk8/openjfx is needed |
| 15:15 |
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pdurbin |
+1 |
| 15:16 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: I hope it works out |
| 15:17 |
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* pdurbin |
votes up http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16559911/facet-query-will-give-wrong-output-on-dynamicfield-in-solr |
| 15:17 |
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semiosis |
see http://mihosoft.eu/?p=963 & http://mihosoft.eu/?p=1000 for reference |
| 15:18 |
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pdurbin |
ah. "Deploy OpenJFX 8 Apps To The Mac App Store" |
| 15:18 |
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semiosis |
the twitter conversation, if anyone's interested: https://twitter.com/pragmaticism/status/411254793651253249 |
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semiosis |
hah, just realized that i can just take the java8 build straight out of vplot, probably wont have to build my own |
| 16:42 |
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semiosis |
GPL <3 |
| 16:46 |
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pdurbin |
:) |
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semiosis |
not as easy as swapping one jre with another. probably need the full jdk to build the app with the new jre |
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| 17:49 |
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semiosis |
got a bug in javafx about this - https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-34893 "[Media] Use of QuickTime prevents Mac AppStore Submission" (free jira account needed to view) |
| 17:55 |
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whartung |
what files are bundled in your app semiosis ? |
| 17:55 |
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semiosis |
what do you mean? |
| 17:55 |
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whartung |
what files come with the bundled JRE |
| 17:56 |
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semiosis |
it's a full jre |
| 17:56 |
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semiosis |
in the case of java7, it's *the* jre7u45 |
| 17:56 |
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semiosis |
in the case of java8 it could be a compact profile or the full jre |
| 17:56 |
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semiosis |
but i havent done a java8 build (that works) yet |
| 17:57 |
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semiosis |
so that part is theoretical at this point :) |
| 18:28 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: how many megabytes is your app? |
| 18:29 |
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semiosis |
many answers.... |
| 18:30 |
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semiosis |
compiled java + resources: 200kB |
| 18:30 |
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semiosis |
compiled java + resources + lib jars: 17MB |
| 18:30 |
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whartung |
w/JRE -- 75MB :D |
| 18:30 |
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whartung |
I know, 75MB -- who cares |
| 18:31 |
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whartung |
I have pictures bigger than that. |
| 18:31 |
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semiosis |
installed size, with jre & other .app support, 157MB |
| 18:31 |
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semiosis |
distributable installer size for the whole package: 56M |
| 18:32 |
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semiosis |
distributable installer disk image (dmg) size: 83MB |
| 18:32 |
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semiosis |
idk why there's such a big difference between the .pkg file & the .dmg file |
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semiosis |
build of openjdk8+openjfx unencumbered by the oracle early adopter license :D - http://openjdk.mihosoft.eu/builds/ |
| 18:41 |
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semiosis |
mac only |
| 18:46 |
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sfisque1 |
disk image probably contains metadata, images, etc. to make the Finder happy |
| 18:47 |
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sfisque1 |
since it's a volumne rather than a file, you give up space to inodes and other FS level stuff |
| 18:49 |
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sfisque |
just like the difference between what fdisk reports for a volumn and what df shows |
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cem_ |
konnichiwa sfisque |
