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IRC log for #javaee, 2013-12-11

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02:21 ga yuo1 go pdurbin
02:21 ga yuo go pdurbin
02:21 yuo1 https://github.com/pdurbin
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06:01 jenue hi all, any idea what this error all about? java.lang.VerifyError: class org.codehaus.jackson.xc.JaxbAnnotationIntrospector overrides final method findDeserializer.(Lorg/codehaus/jackson/ma​p/introspect/Annotated;)Ljava/lang/Object
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08:37 acuzio jenue: the clue is in teh error message
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11:16 Quest ok, we have a new operator
11:24 acuzio we have
11:25 acuzio ?
11:27 Quest you
11:31 acuzio actually yes - when did i become an operator
11:32 acuzio ah i remember
11:44 Quest I was not the decider so it must be neuro_sys
11:47 acuzio nope - i dont think
11:47 acuzio so
11:47 acuzio Anyway how are you Quest /
12:33 Quest Iam fine :) thanks. came after a long time though
12:33 Quest acuzio                 +AOotv (AOP) [modified 1 week, 5 days, 03:08:06 ago] <- that was not me
13:06 SoniEx2 I need a way to run something at 8MHz
13:06 SoniEx2 well I mean
13:06 SoniEx2 maybe not 8MHz
13:07 SoniEx2 but somewhere inbetween 48kHz and 8MHz
13:14 SoniEx2 I should probably convert my game into a bootable disk...
13:23 pdurbin What features do you want in Java EE 8? Oracle is running a survey: https://blogs.oracle.com/theaquarium/entry/we_need_your_help_java
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14:38 neuro_sys oh well, I'll be going to my second job interview in a lifetime tomorrow
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14:41 acuzio Naros: hey ...
14:41 Naros Hiyas
14:41 acuzio neuro_sys: really ? how old are you ?
14:41 acuzio as they say in Dublin - How is it cutting Naros ?
14:41 neuro_sys 27 this friday
14:42 neuro_sys Working for about two years now, in the same company, which was my first to interview.
14:42 acuzio is it just me or am i running into lots of folks born in Dec/Jan ?
14:42 acuzio neuro_sys: presuambly this is a step up
14:43 neuro_sys that your running into folk born in Dec/Jan?
14:43 acuzio yeah -
14:43 neuro_sys take your meds, or cut on smoking pot
14:43 acuzio i do neither
14:44 acuzio i was being serious
14:45 neuro_sys maybe it's more often that people decide to make children in late spring
14:45 neuro_sys unsurprisingly
14:45 acuzio that sounds logical
15:02 neuro_sys What about these outsourcing companies?
15:03 neuro_sys Do they pose a disadvantage when you look for a job?
15:17 Naros I'm a june baby myself, prefer the summer months :P
15:21 neuro_sys got my answers
16:08 SoniEx2 I still want help with timing
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17:26 acuzio neuro_sys: what was the answer ?
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18:22 magyar hi, I'm looking for a monitoring solution for JVM and applications
18:25 neuro_sys does anyone of your's working place apply agile/scrum sort of stuff?
18:27 magyar neuro_sys: ?
18:28 sfisque magyar besides JMX?
18:29 semiosis neuro_sys: yes
18:29 semiosis magyar: logstash?
18:30 neuro_sys semiosis: do you think it's actually effective? would you go back to a working environment where it's not used?
18:30 magyar sfisque: jmx is a good extention, but I was thinking more of a box solution for monitoring
18:31 sfisque box?
18:31 magyar I work with websphere app servers and looking for software that would monitor the performace etc
18:31 neuro_sys hah, I also use websphere
18:31 sfisque that would be called jmx
18:32 sfisque EE containers implement it natively as well as the underlying jvm
18:32 semiosis neuro_sys: scrum has its uses, but it's surely not a one size fits all solution
18:32 sfisque jvisualvm
18:32 magyar sfisque: as I understand JMX it is a extention standart
18:32 sfisque negative.  it "was".  it's integral to the platform
18:33 magyar sfisque: the visual vm is good to see what is happening, but not to greate for a 24/7 monitor
18:33 sfisque and it's been "in the spec" for EE since v1
18:34 sfisque ok, lets ask the unspoken question.  what problem are you trying to solve/fix
18:35 semiosis neuro_sys: problem i have with agile/scrum is how do i get my devs motivated to participate?
18:35 semiosis neuro_sys: they just want to write code, not motivated to participate in planning, estimation, writing stories, etc
18:35 semiosis neuro_sys: but when everyone buys in & helps out i think it can be beneficial
18:36 neuro_sys well, I do, so much, because at my current workplace, everyone is coding pretty much solo, with only brief meetings on the fly.
18:36 sfisque explain to them that they need to mature and join the design/delivery mechanic and not just sling code
18:36 magyar sfisque: there is always a problem is crappy devs and mgmt, but I can't fix that. But what I could to is get notification wheb my permgen is crapping out and which app is causing problems etc
18:37 neuro_sys sfisque: I'm going to an interview tomorrow in a company where they also give agile/scrum consulting as well as inhouse development. that's why I applied to them, because the position requirements are almost the same with my current place.
18:37 sfisque write a CLI app that connects to jmx and monitors the values in a thread
18:37 magyar I know of tivoli and appdinamics but I never used them before
18:38 sfisque neuro_sys GL!  :-)
18:38 magyar appdynamics
18:38 semiosis sfisque: i think there's a kind of person who wants to grow professionally and that sort of thing is in their personality, not something i can just "explain" to them :/
18:38 sfisque true
18:38 neuro_sys oh what's GL
18:38 neuro_sys ah good luck
18:38 neuro_sys heh, thanks
18:38 sfisque \o/
18:38 neuro_sys woops, I meant s/sfisque/semiosis/ there though!
18:39 semiosis well good luck with your interview!
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18:43 neuro_sys not sure if I should shave :P
18:43 neuro_sys grown a big beard since movember
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