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IRC log for #javaee, 2013-11-20

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18:43 SoniEx2 someone help me: https://github.com/SoniEx2/TheModernClassicGame
18:43 SoniEx2 because idk wtf I'm doing
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20:51 Naros SoniEx2: that looks so familiar :P
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20:54 * cem_ playing game*
21:39 cem_ have anyone played go ?
21:40 sess yes
21:40 cem_ wow !
21:40 sess wow indeed
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21:41 cem_ its very<infinity> hard game
21:48 sess pretty much
22:26 Guest20878 "go" is a game?
22:26 sfisque a very old game
22:28 Guest20878 hm
22:33 whartung It's the last game to done well by computers (not sure if it's beating humans yet, but…it's close I think)
22:41 sfisque i would assume it has, the rules are simpler than chess and chess computers beat humans easily
22:46 semiosis sfisque: nr of rules are bounded, number of moves are not, and the number of moves grows much more rapidly in go
22:50 sfisque aye but since the rules are incredibly simple, move culling would be very easy to optimize
22:51 sfisque the hard part of chess is move weighting, because not only do you have placement, you have different pieces that attack/defend differently
22:51 sfisque go has only two moves, acquire territory or capture, and every piece is identical
22:52 semiosis and yet, go is still harder for computers than chess
22:53 semiosis if you enumerate every possible move you could make per turn, there are a lot more in go.  yes it's acquire or capture, but that's just one term in the expression.  need to consider positions to play as well, and there's many more positions in go than chess
22:54 whartung yea, the move space of a go board is immense
22:54 sfisque right, but i'm operating under the assumption that culling out "dumb" moves would be easier to optimize
22:55 whartung but you do't know it's a dumb move until later in the analysis.
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23:25 pdurbin a friend of mine is working on a program that plays go

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