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Naros_ |
if you mean frameworks, just Toplink and Hibernate. |
| 00:00 |
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Naros_ |
before those days, it was all pure JDBC :) |
| 00:00 |
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Quest |
oh |
| 00:01 |
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Naros_ |
ORM packages do save lots of hours compared to those many days of writing JDBC prepared statements :P |
| 00:01 |
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Quest |
wo.. JDBC . scary / dry |
| 00:01 |
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sfisque1 |
nothign wrong with jdbc. under the hood, all JPA/ORM's are doing is JDBC. |
| 00:01 |
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Quest |
Naros_, how do you find Toplink vs Hibernate |
| 00:01 |
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Quest |
sfisque1, underneeth JDBC is used by all |
| 00:02 |
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Naros_ |
sfique1: agreed, it is just a cleaner api |
| 00:02 |
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Quest |
sfisque1, but, its not a fast and beautiful coding with JDBC |
| 00:02 |
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sfisque1 |
i wouldnt say that. different ways to approach the problem. there are things that jpa does "badly" and things that jdbc does "badly". and they each have their strengths |
| 00:02 |
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Naros_ |
well it can be Quest, but at that point you've started your own mini ORM product if so :P |
| 00:03 |
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Quest |
yes. when you have made some methods / architecture to make jdbc cool. agreed |
| 00:04 |
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Naros_ |
but sfique1 is right, there are times i use straight jdbc because trying to wire in an orm product just doesn't make logical sense for the small complexity of the tool |
| 00:04 |
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sfisque1 |
depends on what kind of queries and stuff you're doing. crud in jdbc can be painful, but you can also do the equivalent of a <tuple> query in about 1/4 the code in jdbc |
| 00:04 |
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Naros_ |
e.g.: app that queries a remote web service for exchange rates and inserts them into a daily rates table |
| 00:05 |
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Quest |
sfisque1, speaking of overall value. jdbc is anciate way of coding now. just like C. you can do better in c++ and more in Java |
| 00:05 |
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sfisque |
disagree |
| 00:05 |
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sfisque |
C is very much alive |
| 00:05 |
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Quest |
it is. |
| 00:05 |
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sfisque |
and so is jdbc |
| 00:05 |
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Quest |
but dont you think java is smarter ? |
| 00:05 |
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Quest |
but dont you think hibernate is easier? |
| 00:06 |
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Quest |
:) |
| 00:06 |
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sfisque |
easier != better |
| 00:06 |
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Naros_ |
C is still highly used in various projects. Not everything needs to be OO :P |
| 00:06 |
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sfisque |
easier == easier |
| 00:06 |
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sfisque |
better== better |
| 00:06 |
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sfisque |
device drivers |
| 00:06 |
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Quest |
sfisque, less coding time == better |
| 00:06 |
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sfisque |
depends |
| 00:06 |
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sfisque |
you can code crap in less time than good code |
| 00:06 |
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Quest |
less headache in query writing ? |
| 00:06 |
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sfisque |
does that make it better? |
| 00:06 |
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Quest |
sfisque, well now that it has came to personal preference of yours. I cant comment much... |
| 00:07 |
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Quest |
sfisque, to me. yes |
| 00:07 |
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sfisque |
of course. taste :-) |
| 00:07 |
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Quest |
to you. dont know. |
| 00:07 |
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Quest |
ya. |
| 00:07 |
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Naros_ |
There is taste but there is the obvious to use the right tool for the job. |
| 00:07 |
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Quest |
I found out today that Naros_ and my tasts match mostly. side note |
| 00:07 |
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sfisque |
i'm a slow coder. i spend my 80% on forensics and write as little code as possible |
| 00:07 |
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sfisque |
but that's just how i roll |
| 00:07 |
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Quest |
hm |
| 00:08 |
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Naros_ |
sfisque: im with you there, less maintenance downstream in many cases. |
| 00:08 |
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sfisque |
one of the subtle things i've learned is EVERY line of code is a maintainance footprint. |
| 00:08 |
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Naros_ |
and compounds the risk factor too |
| 00:09 |
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noord |
sfisque: bad habits come from desire to few keystrokes |
| 00:09 |
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Quest |
got to leave! miss you guys. |
| 00:09 |
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sfisque |
it's not about minimalism, it's about not writing unnecessarily |
| 00:09 |
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Naros_ |
Ok, well I've got to get back to my Hibernate Search problem with SQL Server. |
| 00:09 |
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sfisque |
i've found people start out on a project and write too much code |
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sfisque |
/wave |
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Naros_ |
you guys/gals have a great weekend. |
| 00:10 |
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sfisque |
then you spend a ton of time refactoring it all out |
| 00:10 |
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sfisque |
down the road |
| 00:11 |
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sfisque |
u 2 naros |
| 00:11 |
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sfisque |
code strong! |
| 00:11 |
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noord |
sfisque: just write what it needs |
| 00:13 |
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sfisque |
agreed. but "needs" depends on many things. case in point on this proj i'm on, they wrote a TON of code replacing standard API's and doing stuff that "the platform" (ejb 3.1) gives you for free. i've spent over a year just refactoring and streamlining, trimming down queries, all sorts of kruft. it makes the baby java cry |
| 00:15 |
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sfisque |
much of it came from them rushing into the project and not really "learning the platform". slowly they're coming to understand that just blasting out code is not the solution that will be sustainable or maintainable |
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Quest |
back |
| 00:19 |
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Quest |
sfisque, so you prefer Java ee over spring mvc ? |
| 00:19 |
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sfisque |
depends. |
| 00:19 |
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Quest |
on? |
| 00:19 |
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sfisque |
what is the target platform and what problems are you solving |
| 00:20 |
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Quest |
kippesoep, pasted me this link http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2499323/java-ee-6-vs-spring-3-stack |
| 00:20 |
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Quest |
mediam to large scale app. tomcat, web app |
| 00:20 |
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kippesoep |
lazy as i am |
| 00:20 |
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Quest |
sfisque, ^ |
| 00:21 |
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Quest |
sfisque, i feel frameworks give you several prebuild things. e.g aop. that is not in javaee plain |
| 00:21 |
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Quest |
so it kinda always wins |
| 00:21 |
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sfisque |
still depends. are you wiring into a ESB? do you need solid cluster/failover? do you need messaging? do you need to handle XA Txs? do you need to support services other than web pages? |
| 00:22 |
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Quest |
hm |
| 00:22 |
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Quest |
dont know most you wrote |
| 00:22 |
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Quest |
spring will do them or jee |
| 00:23 |
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sfisque |
if you're just serving pages, Tomcat + libs is fine. if you're building into an existing enterprise fabric, an EE container solves A LOT of problems you will spend time solving (stack compatibility, services, etc.) |
| 00:23 |
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Quest |
sfisque, EE container like? |
| 00:24 |
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kippesoep |
jboss7 works good imo |
| 00:24 |
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sfisque |
JBoss, glassfish, weblogic, websphere, etc. take you're pick |
| 00:24 |
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sfisque |
i've used them all and each one does fine |
| 00:24 |
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Quest |
tomcate is a servlet container and not a ee containe |
| 00:24 |
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Quest |
r |
| 00:24 |
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sfisque |
ATG is the only one i've not touched |
| 00:24 |
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kippesoep |
i particularly like jboss7 because of the speed, though i'm unsure about the speed of the newer releases of the other ones mentioned |
| 00:24 |
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sfisque |
right, but you can "fake it" with libs (spring, hibernate, etc.) |
| 00:25 |
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Quest |
hm |
| 00:25 |
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sfisque |
i like jboss for it's extensive "add ons". i like glassfish because it's got better remote managment. |
| 00:25 |
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sfisque |
managing websphere requires a Phd. it's for sadists |
| 00:25 |
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sfisque |
or masochists |
| 00:25 |
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sfisque |
depending |
| 00:26 |
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sfisque |
weblogic is somewhere between glassfish and Wsphere |
| 00:26 |
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kippesoep |
well, i really disconnect with websphere a long long time ago, when it somehow would just give me "unexpected exception" as the complete trace |
| 00:26 |
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Quest |
https://github.com/openmrs/openmrs-core this is in hibernate and plain JEE? |
| 00:26 |
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sfisque |
kipp : lolz |
| 00:28 |
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Quest |
websphere is a beast |
| 00:28 |
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Quest |
i have little experience though |
| 00:29 |
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kippesoep |
when it comes down to it, i wouldnt recommend anything by oracle, really, even though weblogic seems to be allright.. but that might be me, just being frustrated with oracle AS and their older service bus (incorporating their own xml-libs, which containted an error in the xslt processing, but we were unable to swap for something else .. WTHH) |
| 00:29 |
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kippesoep |
s/containted/contained |
| 00:32 |
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kippesoep |
on a different note .. i havent looked into jee7 .. have you? |
| 00:38 |
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Quest |
https://blogs.oracle.com/arungupta/entry/why_java_ee_6_is |
| 00:40 |
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sfisque |
weblogic is fine. it was bought by oracle :-P |
| 00:40 |
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sfisque |
but if you're just looking to "learn" glassfish is probably the best "first spin around the block" |
| 00:42 |
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kippesoep |
that's true, as was java (duh :P) |
| 00:42 |
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kippesoep |
though i would argue that java is getting outdated fast |
| 00:43 |
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sfisque |
eh, it's maturing. that's like saying C++ is outdated. remember, java started out as a "toy language". then it was supposed to be a desktop app language (awt/swing/xbeans/etc.) i feel it's finally found it's target market, enterprise fabric enabler platform |
| 00:44 |
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kippesoep |
c++ is updating faster than the snail pace of javaq |
| 00:44 |
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kippesoep |
-q |
| 00:44 |
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kippesoep |
come on, no closures??? still ?? |
| 00:45 |
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sfisque |
closures a niche that is going to be badly abused. just like generics. 90% of apps do not need closures |
| 00:45 |
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kippesoep |
then we are in severe disagreement |
| 00:46 |
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kippesoep |
i also dislike the entire notion of null, but there are very few languages that dont have that alas |
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sfisque |
what's wrong with null? |
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* kippesoep |
likes the option pattern as it's in scala |
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sfisque |
describe.. i do not k now scala |
| 00:47 |
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sfisque |
will peek back, have to bounce for dinner |
| 00:47 |
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sfisque |
code strong! |
| 00:47 |
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kippesoep |
well, if you'd replace it by Option, as in scala, you'd communicate to the user of a method that it could either allow or return an Option instead of the need for checking for null at arbitrary places, which causes so many NPE's |
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kippesoep |
so basically, you'd get a compiletime error instead of a runtime exception, as well as communicating better with your api .. |
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kippesoep |
k, cya later |
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waves |
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xll11 |
is there a way, to make a new line after each panel added? |
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xll11 |
Hey, is there a Border layout type that can help me? I'm adding multiple panels and I'm looking for a new line between each of the panels |
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pdurbin |
ah, panels like these: https://github.com/nadav2051/diaryProject/blob/master/Diary/src/GUI/diaryPanel.java |
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pdurbin |
seems like swing stuff to me, not java ee |
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pdurbin |
I just listened to this and enjoyed it: http://www.javapubhouse.com/2013/07/episode-39-do-i-really-have-to-database.html |
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pdurbin |
he talks about serializing to http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/io/ObjectOutputStream.html or XML and a bit about NoSQL |
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pdurbin |
I'm sad I get "500 internal server error" now when I try to download JavaOne 2012 videos such as http://www.myexpospace.com/JavaOne2012/SessionFiles/CON3470_mp4_3470_001.mp4 :( ... this worked fine for months and months |
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any one used hibernate / jpa in depth? |
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Quest |
hm. saturdays are quite. |
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pdurbin |
yup. quiet |
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Quest |
pdurbin, If i recall correct, you were getting into jpa/hibernate stuff. correct? |
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pdurbin |
Quest: yeah, JPA. I already linked to this: https://github.com/pdurbin/java-jpa-tutorial |
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Quest |
pdurbin, I am thinking IRC chat has made an ancient image. |
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Quest |
pdurbin, what do you think. there should be a modern way of communicatting? something more efficient? |
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pdurbin |
Quest: the Jave EE "community" on Google+ is decent: https://plus.google.com/communities/100922709819964289874 |
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Quest |
hm |
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Quest |
pdurbin, woulld you prefer a web based chat or IRC chat ? |
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web based with more features |
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pdurbin |
I'm quite happy with IRC: http://wiki.greptilian.com/haunts |
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pdurbin, have you been to stackoverflow.com? |
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pdurbin, what if i told you that a merger of IRC and stackoverflow based forums would be? live chat forums I mean? would you prefer it? |
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Zongwei |
hi |
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Zongwei |
i need a little help |
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buharin |
hey :) |
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buharin |
I am trying to do smth like Menu with specyfing priveleges is it good to write it like id and key for translation |
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buharin |
plus OneToMany with privileges entity |
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Quest |
hi |
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Quest |
buharin, what are the relation ship of entities, one to many / many to many ? do you have a diagram? |
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buharin |
nop |
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buharin |
I am hardcore programmer |
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zoot |
use jaas? |
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Quest |
a diagram for db would solve many of your problems before they arise though |
| 18:43 |
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Quest |
authentication service would be complicated for a new bie?.. i gues. |
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buharin |
Quest, I already write my own |
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buharin |
right now I making menu :D |
| 18:44 |
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Quest |
buharin, did you got for like isReadable isWritable boolens ? |
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buharin |
for? |
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Quest |
privilages |
| 18:45 |
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Quest |
what kind of menus? |
| 18:45 |
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buharin |
Quest, no it is just for menu and roles wich can see this menu |
| 18:45 |
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Quest |
oh |
| 18:45 |
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Quest |
its a oneToMany or manytomany? |
| 18:45 |
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Quest |
ontomany i think |
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buharin |
Quest, I think it should be one to many |
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Quest |
ok. just map them . one as @OneToMany and other as @ManyTOOne the do Mapped by on one of them. this way you can trace either ways. |
| 18:47 |
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Quest |
then do* |
| 18:47 |
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Quest |
I got to run now. |
| 18:49 |
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buharin |
Quest, what about if I want to add new Menu row for an existing role |
| 18:49 |
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buharin |
should I first get and object or what? |
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Quest |
then make many to many relation |
| 18:50 |
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Quest |
one role can have many menus , one menu can have many roles |
| 18:50 |
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buharin |
nop |
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buharin |
missunderstood |
| 18:50 |
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Quest |
oh. then? |
| 18:50 |
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Quest |
oh . ya. i missread |
| 18:50 |
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Quest |
hm |
| 18:51 |
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buharin |
Quest, I added user with role admin, and later I want to add menu for role admin wich is already exist |
| 18:51 |
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Quest |
buharin, can you show my the entity classes? |
| 18:52 |
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buharin |
http://pastebin.com/46eiixTi |
| 18:53 |
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buharin |
I needn't add role with menus so ManyToOne not needent |
| 18:55 |
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buharin |
Quest, I mean userDao.getRoles().add(already_exsting_role); |
| 18:59 |
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Quest |
1. the name should not be RoleDao. these are entities. not DAOs. 2. creat a user class , role class, menu class . user and its privileges-- OneToMany- menu if user have correct prvilige from a menu , he can view. else not. |
| 19:00 |
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Quest |
sorry. ignore the role class. above |
| 19:00 |
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Quest |
user class also would have role/privilege |
| 19:00 |
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Quest |
but thats just my strategy |
| 19:01 |
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Quest |
you can get the role of a user easily. the business logic in service class can handle the rest |
| 19:02 |
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Quest |
and if you want to complicate things. user - groups - group privililges for menu - menu |
| 19:02 |
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buharin |
no no |
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buharin |
I just want to add single roles |
| 19:03 |
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buharin |
and than add a menu for an existing role |
| 19:03 |
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buharin |
how to do it |
| 19:04 |
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Quest |
buharin, http://i41.tinypic.com/2e3mq09.png |
| 19:04 |
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Quest |
buharin, oh. wait |
| 19:05 |
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buharin |
I just write to it more annotation like NotFound if you want to get user but roles for user not found |
| 19:05 |
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buharin |
but how about adding |
| 19:06 |
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Quest |
role class, which has list of users and menus. |
| 19:06 |
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Quest |
one user can have one role only . right? |
| 19:06 |
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Quest |
but one role can have many menus? |
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buharin |
no |
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buharin |
omg |
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buharin |
no |
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buharin |
user -> many roles |
| 19:07 |
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Quest |
clearly first define the relaions of role, user and menu |
| 19:07 |
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buharin |
menu -> many roles |
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Quest |
hm |
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buharin |
Quest, man but what are you thinking about |
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buharin |
listen |
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Quest |
user -> role <- menu then |
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buharin |
I don't asking about connections |
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Quest |
isnt it simple? |
| 19:08 |
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Quest |
what connection> |
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buharin |
I am asking about code side |
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Quest |
hm what exactly? |
| 19:09 |
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Quest |
I added user with role admin, and later I want to add menu for role admin wich is already exist? |
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buharin |
Quest, http://pastebin.com/LEWr49SN |
| 19:10 |
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buharin |
Quest, now I want to add a new user with the same roles |
| 19:11 |
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Quest |
just like you did before |
| 19:12 |
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pixelou |
Hi, I'm a java newbie, I wrote this : http://pastebin.com/3D8Z2wLn . The code is working, but do you think it is a good idea for a configuration? |
| 19:13 |
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Quest |
pixelou, looks fine |
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Quest |
what type of configureationy you have in mind? |
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buharin |
pixelou, I think JSF got automatic bundle listeners |
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buharin |
or something like that |
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pixelou |
I don't know about jsf as for now ;-) |
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buharin |
pixelou, good for you D: |
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pixelou |
well this is interesting :-) |
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pixelou |
what sort of monster is this? |
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buharin |
jee framework |
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pixelou |
From what I understood from the wikipedia article, I don't need facelets for now, so I think I will keep my configuration management. |
| 19:20 |
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pixelou |
thanks for your help. |
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buharin, userDao.setLogin("daniel"); userDao.setRole("role here") and if you want to get "role previously saved" . you have two options. some how get the role by some id. only hibernate required. (this wont happen ) , or use HQL , JPQL (I wont recoment critiera at this stage but is an option) to do similar SQL queries based on Entiy classes) |
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buharin |
Quest, oh ok so first I need |
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buharin |
mmm |
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buharin |
Quest, can you write sample please? |
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but you cant get the id of the row which you have "some role in" . i mean theres not way to find without a query which might be like . select role from table where role = some role.. i mean thats insane |
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buharin, appologies. i was just leaving |
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buharin, but the key point its. you can do in hibernate . get some object (classname.class, id) |
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buharin |
but when I get object just add it to list and it is working ye? |
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thats it. or match objects. if user has a relation with role . you can get the role id, name, sting, etc by the user class.... if they have a relation. |
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buharin |
cuz it is serializable? |
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you can add list. but there got to be a relation. thats how you will approach one item by an other item reference |
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I recomend you to see koushiks you tube hibernate tutorials good luck! |
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buharin |
Quest, and one more think how to make hibernate to drop tables then recreate |
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buharin |
create-drop? |
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create and update are the keyworkds |
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update do not drop the db schema |
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create does |
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do that in the hibernate.cfg.xml |
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buharin, watch those tutorials. good for yo |
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buharin |
Quest, ye thnks :) |
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welcome! |
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buharin |
Quest, DAO is for bisness logic for getting and setting values into table? |
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buharin, yes, see hibernateeventDao. http://jpgmr.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/spring-mvc-and-hibernate-made-simple-with-annotations/ |
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5. |
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buharin |
Quest, DTO? |
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what? |
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buharin |
DTO and DAO |
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buharin |
http://www.coderanch.com/t/99834/patterns/difference-DTO-DAO |
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I would say it repository . |
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DTOs are often used in conjunction with data access objects to retrieve data from a database |
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DTOs are often used in conjunction with data access objects (DAOs) to retrieve data from a database |
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buharin |
so I got Entity then retrieve via DAO object and write it to DTO wich use in applications |
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buharin |
fuck Java is so complicated :D |
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:) |
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see the examples and tutorials. you will get it |
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* Quest |
waves |
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buharin |
Quest, yeah but on Monday I am going to work :D |
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http://www.dzone.com/tutorials/java/hibernate/hibernate-example/hibernate-tools-1.html without spring |
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http://www.dzone.com/tutorials/java/spring/spring-hibernate-integration-1.html |
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http://www.studytrails.com/frameworks/spring/spring-hibernate-session-factory-annotation.jsp |
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http://simone-folino.blogspot.com/2012/06/entitymanager-jpa-vs-session-hibernate.html |
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all are fantastic ^ |
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buharin |
I have no spring there |
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read all of them. then return here. |
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buharin |
EJB instead |
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ignore the spring part then |
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Quest> http://www.dzone.com/tutorials/java/hibernate/hibernate-example/hibernate-tools-1.html without spring |
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buharin |
Quest, like that |
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buharin |
ok going to connect what I wrote with EJB |
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pdurbin |
buharin: are you deploying your EJBs to glassfish? jboss? something else? |
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buharin |
tomcat |
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* Quest |
recommends jboss |
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jboss == EE container, tomcat == servlet container. IRRC |
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IIRC |
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buharin: huh, I thought one would need TomEE for EJBs |
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buharin |
pdurbin, ou really? I need to change server for EJB? |
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pdurbin |
buharin: I guess you'll find out. :) I use glassfish |
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buharin |
what about weblogic? |
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beast |
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buharin, glass fish will do too |
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for your ejbs |
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buharin |
Quest, ye but they said me that I will use WebLogic |
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buharin |
however idk if it is not too fat for my old notebook |
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they? |
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buharin |
what they? |
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buharin |
ahh I mean guys from work |
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buharin |
:D |
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pdurbin |
seems to be proprietary... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_WebLogic_Server |
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buharin |
yep |
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buharin |
: | |
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buharin |
JBoss? should be fine? |
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yes |
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buharin |
omg there is not more JBoss |
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buharin |
now it names WildFly :D |
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hm |
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sfisque |
neat |
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. |
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sfisque |
i'm beginning to lose patience with jboss. 4->5 was a nice migration, 6 was a disappointment (no EE, just web profile), 7 seems to be a complete refactor (breaks alot of legacy stuff) and now they're renaming the product/project... le sigh |
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hm. |
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whats your best opensource ee container ? |
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sfisque |
for "my needs"? right now JB 5.1. IMO, last good release of jboss before things got "screwy" |
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hm |
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sfisque |
but i'm really close to going back to glassfish |
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sfisque |
i just dislike glassfish's lack of JAAS infrastructure |
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I wonder why I feel glassfish is not that largescale thing |
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authentication ? |
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h |
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sfisque |
jb comes with alot of off the shelf jaas modules |
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sfisque |
yes |
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sfisque |
gf comes with zilch. annoying |
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) |
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looks at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Authentication_and_Authorization_Service |
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:) gfs also come with many annoying things now days (girl frients gf) |
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glassfish is not opensource i gues |
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pdurbin |
Quest: sure it is |
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oh |
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sfisque, do you find real big problems in the latest stable of jb? |
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no ee in 6 and 7 ? |
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really? |
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ProductVendorEditionRelease dateJava EE compatibility [1]Servlet specJSP specLicense |
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JBoss ASRed Hat7.1.1.Final2012-03-0963.02.2LGPL |
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saluts |
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at Naros |
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buharin |
I get a problem in Eclipse bad password glassfish server |
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just dont touch the password or manager. keep it default |
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buharin |
ohh ok |
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if it gets messed up. its hard to normalze. at least it was for me. i had to reinstall all things |
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buharin |
I ussually use Intellij but |
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oO0Oo, nice nick |
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buharin |
this time I need to use eclipse |
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prefers intellij |
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buharin |
Intellij is nearly ideal |
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buharin |
=D |
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buharin |
however it costs much for company |
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community edition? |
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buharin |
Quest, communisty is lack of jee staff |
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like ? |
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buharin |
like whole ;D |
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buharin |
servers |
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buharin |
persistance |
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really? |
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buharin |
ejb |
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buharin |
etc |
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buharin |
yep |
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so you cant to jee in community version? |
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buharin |
yep |
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we can have seperate servers runing though |
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buharin |
Community it is only for basic app |
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zoot |
well, intellij lacks a fracking compile button |
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buharin |
and intellij is amazing good for jee and frameworks |
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http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/index.html ya |
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one month trial for full version would do |
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after that you either crack (joking) or buy |
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buharin |
Quest, I got cracked version |
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buharin |
:P |
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really |
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buharin |
Quest, wanna crack? |
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buharin |
for linux? |
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Quest |
you should have pm me and gave a link :) |
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lol |
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zoot |
stfu |
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just kidding |
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stfu ? |
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buharin |
Quest, but I read if you got opensource project |
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buharin |
you can get it for free |
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yes. |
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with terms |
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buharin |
Quest, what? |
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I was disconnected from irc |
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buharin |
Quest, working? |
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yup |
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buharin |
:) |
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buharin |
Quest, but as you got a bit money try to buy it ;D |
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buharin |
I will do the same :P |
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ofcourse |
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org.springframework.beans.factory.xml.XmlBeanDefinitionStoreException: Line 125 in XML document from ServletContext resource [/WEB-INF/springDispatcher-servlet.xml] is invalid; nested exception is org.xml.sax.SAXParseException; lineNumber: 125; columnNumber: 93; cvc-complex-type.2.4.a: Invalid content was found starting with element 'bean'. One of '{"http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans":meta, "http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans":construct |
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or-arg, "http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans":property, "http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans":qualifier, "http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans":lookup-method, "http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans":replaced-method, WC[##other:"http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans"]}' is expected. |
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oops. sory |
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any one understands spring exception ? http://pastebin.com/CbVzEscU |
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buharin |
thats why I won't learn spring :D |
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:) |
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what alternative do you see to spring? plain Jee? |
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buharin |
when I tried to write smth in spring it was very hard for me and my notebook hurt cause xml |
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sfisque |
Quest , in ref to before, 7.1 is the first version of Jboss since 5.1 to pass the full EE tck spec |
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buharin |
then I used JSF |
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buharin |
:D |
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sfisque |
6.x through 7.0.x are just web profile |
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sfisque, hm. |
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nevermind about the pastebin above^ |
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buharin |
going to sleep |
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buharin |
bye bye :) |
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