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Topic for ##friendlyjava is now Be friendly :) This channel is publicly logged at http://irclog.greptilian.com/friendlyjava/today ⚫ Please use a pastebin for pasting code |
| 02:25 |
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pdurbin |
"Welcome to Java Villains, the secret lair of bad coders!" http://javavillains.com |
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CatButts |
I cannot attest to their badness, but they are definitelly pricks |
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mr_lou |
:-| |
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mr_lou |
I thought all the Java villians hung out in #java |
| 07:07 |
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mr_lou |
You saying there are more? |
| 07:07 |
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mr_lou |
Different fractions of Java villians? |
| 07:08 |
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CatButts |
I thought the above was a knock on ##java |
| 07:08 |
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CatButts |
so I replied accordingly |
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mr_lou |
Hello abba |
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CatButts |
mamma mia, here I go again |
| 07:52 |
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CatButts |
my-my, why can't I resist you? |
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CatButts |
https://i.redd.it/5eoipm9qbk001.jpg unrelated |
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CatButts |
how would I interpret this |
| 08:23 |
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CatButts |
who is this PCI? |
| 08:23 |
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CatButts |
Payment Card Industry? |
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aditsu |
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/PCI_und_PCIe_Slots.jpg/220px-PCI_und_PCIe_Slots.jpg |
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CatButts |
Perverted Cat Innuendo |
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CatButts |
https://blog.pcisecuritystandards.org/migrating-from-ssl-and-early-tls there we go |
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pdurbin |
Java Villians isn't a knock on anybody. It a site that was just set up by a guy I met at JavaOne, Ken Fogel. Nice guy. It'll be interesting to see what he does with it. |
| 11:54 |
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mr_lou |
What's it for? |
| 11:56 |
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aditsu |
I imagine a villain capturing James Bond and forcing him to code applets in java 1.1 |
| 12:09 |
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mr_lou |
Can I be the villain then? |
| 12:38 |
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pdurbin |
Here's his tweet about it: https://twitter.com/omniprof/status/933429940833353730 |
| 12:39 |
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pdurbin |
"These are programmers who only use static variables and methods, use single letter identifier names and only use the default package." |
| 12:42 |
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mr_lou |
So if I join that team, am I then allowed to code that way? |
| 12:57 |
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pdurbin |
of course! |
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aditsu |
nothing wrong with single letter identifier names (mainly for local variables or arguments) |
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mr_lou |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg33a0wk3Mk |
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aditsu |
mr_lou: This video has been removed for violating YouTube's Terms of Service. |
| 17:27 |
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mr_lou |
Yes I saw. Someone has a real problem with my project. There's nothing wrong with the video. |
| 17:27 |
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mr_lou |
You know the type who just can't stand when someone else succeeds? |
| 17:28 |
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mr_lou |
The video is similar to the one at 8bitmemoirs.com |
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mr_lou |
Nothing that violates anything. |
| 17:28 |
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mr_lou |
Just a vid of my own project. |
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aditsu |
you should be able to dispute/appeal then |
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CatButts |
lol |
| 17:29 |
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CatButts |
mr_lou has fans! |
| 17:29 |
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CatButts |
I have the video loaded |
| 17:29 |
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CatButts |
the page loaded |
| 17:29 |
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CatButts |
but not played through |
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CatButts |
enjoy what little can be played, I guess |
| 17:30 |
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CatButts |
oh, oh |
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CatButts |
no |
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CatButts |
I don't have fancy video retrieval script in FF |
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CatButts |
bummer |
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CatButts |
did you piss someone from ##java, mr_lou? |
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CatButts |
:P |
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mr_lou |
aditsu, Yes, I've done that. But it takes time of course. There ought to be a penalty for those who falsely flagged it though. |
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aditsu |
mr_lou: you can reupload it and make it unlisted |
| 17:32 |
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mr_lou |
CatButts, Definitely, but this aint related. This is just someone who can't stand that I've managed to complete the project. You know the type who - from the start - tries to talk you out of doing the project. |
| 17:33 |
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mr_lou |
aditsu, Nah, it has to be public. It to demonstrate what the project is. Will link to it from pouet.net and such. |
| 17:33 |
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mr_lou |
The video was somewhat the same as the one you can see at 8bitmemoirs.com |
| 17:33 |
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mr_lou |
Absolutely nothing that violates anything. |
| 17:34 |
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CatButts |
I am trying to imagine what his drive would be |
| 17:36 |
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CatButts |
"I hate this dude and seeing him do cool shit makes me boil" |
| 17:36 |
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CatButts |
"I am trying to do something similar and I can't stand competition" |
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* CatButts |
times out |
| 17:37 |
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mr_lou |
Some people are just morons. |
| 17:37 |
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mr_lou |
Not much else to say. |
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aditsu |
maybe "this crap he's doing should not exist" |
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CatButts |
I am trying to imagine the drive |
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CatButts |
at a low level |
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CatButts |
>"I hate this dude and seeing him do cool shit makes me boil" |
| 17:38 |
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CatButts |
I am all too familiar with this one |
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CatButts |
I am guilty of it |
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CatButts |
programming unrelated |
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* CatButts |
times out |
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CatButts |
whatever |
| 17:40 |
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CatButts |
to comprehend something at a low, intuitive level and be right about it is a feat |
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* CatButts |
abuses programming analogies for psychology |
| 17:43 |
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CatButts |
I think I should shut up and pour another glass |
| 17:44 |
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CatButts |
one day, I will be good at what I desire, bring joys to my friends, and much crushed hopes to my foes |
| 17:50 |
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CatButts |
hej mr_lou, are you playing the music via fancy replayer for tracked formats or is it pre-rendered? |
| 17:53 |
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mr_lou |
I use Milkytracker. |
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CatButts |
I mean |
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CatButts |
on the blueray player |
| 17:55 |
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CatButts |
is it an actual replayer |
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CatButts |
or pre-rendered music |
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mr_lou |
Oh, it's pre-rendered. |
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CatButts |
ah, ok |
| 18:19 |
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mr_lou |
Ok, let's see how long it stays on Vimeo then. :-) |
| 18:19 |
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mr_lou |
https://vimeo.com/244872093 |
| 18:40 |
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aditsu |
mr_lou: so.. do you really have an old-computer emulator running in blu-ray? and can play games on it? |
| 18:41 |
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mr_lou |
aditsu, No. They are just videos. |
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aditsu |
aww |
| 18:42 |
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mr_lou |
aditsu, I mean, MY project just shows videos of me playing the games and such - BUT someone HAS made emulators of various systems for Blu-ray. Like Nintendo Entertainment System for example. |
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mr_lou |
I COULD have looked into that, but that's not what I wanted. |
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mr_lou |
aditsu, I would be cool though, to have a single disc with an emulator + all the games ever made for that system. |
| 19:26 |
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mr_lou |
aditsu, It can easily be done. The only problem, that no one has cracked yet, is the audio part. Apparently it's not easy to create a stream with the Blu-ray API's. |
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mr_lou |
I'd like to experiment with that some day. |
| 19:30 |
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mr_lou |
Among the other million things I'd like to experiment with. |
| 19:35 |
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CatButts |
what doesn't kill you, makes you stronger |
| 19:35 |
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CatButts |
(or is still in process of killing you) |
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CatButts |
I'd like to read mindnumbingly crap code, understand its functionality, and output sane code |
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CatButts |
*I'd like to be able to |
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CatButts |
I already have part of this skill from porting between C, Java and AS3 |
| 19:38 |
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CatButts |
just need to work on the deobfuscation part |
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CatButts |
code obfuscated by bad writing and overtly verbose OOP |
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* mr_lou |
luvs obfuscators |
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mr_lou |
They hide my hideous code style. :-> |
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CatButts |
so now you have programatic obfuscation congealed together with bad writing :P |
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mr_lou |
Yir! It's the ultimate protection. :-D |
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CatButts |
I hate you |
| 19:43 |
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CatButts |
I hate OOP |
| 19:43 |
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CatButts |
I hate Java |
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aditsu |
CatButts: hey, calm down |
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CatButts |
but hey, I need something that happens to be in Java, so here I am ;P |
| 19:48 |
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CatButts |
gzip is a bunch of headers + deflate algo |
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CatButts |
yes? |
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mr_lou |
You lost us when you said you hate Java. |
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CatButts |
would you rather I butter you and tell you what you want to hear? |
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CatButts |
:P |
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mr_lou |
Yes |
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CatButts |
that's a bummer, then |
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aditsu |
you can hate java, just be nice |
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aditsu |
and not sure about gzip, check some docs |
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CatButts |
I've been told by a friend of older java apps/applets relying on gzip decompression(deflate?), working fine, and breaking in newer java releases because some "magic function is not called" and |
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CatButts |
"increased strictness" |
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* CatButts |
attempts to produce exact quote |
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CatButts |
https://pastebin.com/Q2VVtRfj |
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CatButts |
here we go |
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CatButts |
>I've been unable to track down |
| 19:56 |
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CatButts |
the problem, but I've heard from other Java developers that if you forget to |
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CatButts |
call some magic method (presumably to flush a buffer or something), the |
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CatButts |
deflater may corrupt data, and do so unpredictably. |
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CatButts |
this bit in particular |
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CatButts |
...bloody newlines |
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CatButts |
I was wondering if you have any pointers on such behaviour |
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mr_lou |
Java is full of magic methods. |
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mr_lou |
:-D |
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CatButts |
at this rate, I'd port 3rd party deflate code from C to Java |
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aditsu |
there's no magic in flushing, and I suspect it's a case of "It's possible that the Shi-Chan applets aren't using gunzip correctly" |
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mr_lou |
You should port some MIDlet games to Blu-ray Java. :-) |
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CatButts |
I have no interest in BD-J platform |
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* CatButts |
ports MIDlet to Flash |
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CatButts |
hahahahahaha |
| 19:59 |
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mr_lou |
Yes. That makes a lot more sense. |
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mr_lou |
And Applets! |
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CatButts |
Sun did a good job neutering them |
| 20:00 |
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CatButts |
same thing I see with J2ME |
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mr_lou |
Yes |
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CatButts |
pay good moneys so we can autograph yer app, so it can run places without harassing user for permissions |
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mr_lou |
I'm tired. Will go to bed. Goodnight. |
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CatButts |
rip |
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aditsu |
g'night |
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CatButts |
oh yeah, I wanted to fetch thing |
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CatButts |
>and I suspect it's a case of "It's possible that the Shi-Chan applets aren't using gunzip correctly" |
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CatButts |
in relation to this |
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CatButts |
>and |
| 20:03 |
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CatButts |
since the Shi applets use very weak typing with their streams and do stupid |
| 20:03 |
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CatButts |
bit twiddling, something gets out of alignment and Java complains |
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CatButts |
there we go |
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cn28h |
a certain feline posterior said I could idle in this extra dead java channel |
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aditsu |
sure, welcome |
