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mr_lou |
Morning |
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aditsu |
mr_lou: midnight :) |
| 07:12 |
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mr_lou |
:-) |
| 07:12 |
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mr_lou |
Hi root66 |
| 07:23 |
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root66 |
hi! (this channel is on my autojoin now) |
| 07:24 |
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mr_lou |
Mine too. |
| 07:25 |
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mr_lou |
root66, So what's the policies in #java on efnet? |
| 07:26 |
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mr_lou |
root66, There was a user there yesterday being rather rude and insulting. That's fine? |
| 07:31 |
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root66 |
I missed it |
| 07:32 |
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root66 |
I am not an op there though, just a network operator |
| 07:32 |
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root66 |
we can't dictate who runs channels or how |
| 07:33 |
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root66 |
but I do see the value in IRC and I vote with my autojoin |
| 07:34 |
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mr_lou |
Ah ok. I misunderstood then, when you say you were an irc op there. |
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mr_lou |
*said |
| 07:34 |
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root66 |
efnet ircop |
| 07:34 |
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mr_lou |
What role does the ircop play then? |
| 07:35 |
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root66 |
eliminating spammers and abusive botnets, mostly |
| 07:35 |
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root66 |
sometimes clearing a channel after a takeover (we have a bot that tracks the scores of the legitimate ops and reops them afterwards) |
| 07:36 |
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mr_lou |
Ok |
| 07:36 |
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root66 |
there is no nickname or channel registration on efnet |
| 07:36 |
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root66 |
which is pretty oldschool |
| 07:36 |
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root66 |
so there are occasional fights |
| 07:37 |
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root66 |
the chanfix bot helps with most of the takeover wars without being too imposing |
| 07:37 |
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root66 |
people ask me to kill other people for stealing their nicks, which I have to refuse |
| 07:38 |
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mr_lou |
mkay |
| 07:38 |
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firebird1 |
hey pdurbin |
| 07:39 |
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mr_lou |
There should be an... irc.friendly.net :-> All channels free of arrogance and insults. :-) |
| 07:39 |
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root66 |
utopias only exist on paper |
| 07:40 |
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root66 |
soon it becomes "I demand friendlyness" in a hitler voice |
| 07:40 |
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mr_lou |
hehe, true. |
| 07:40 |
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mr_lou |
It's certainly possible to reach that point, when getting tired enough of all the arrogance and insults. |
| 07:41 |
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mr_lou |
. o O ( BE NICE YOU A**HOLE M*TH**F*CKER!!!! ) |
| 07:41 |
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mr_lou |
hehe |
| 07:41 |
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root66 |
I like the message you are sending with this channel. I am not convinced that this channel is entirely useful for java other than among the few of us here, but it needs to exist to send a counterpoint |
| 07:41 |
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root66 |
and I am totally on board with that |
| 07:42 |
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mr_lou |
I agree. But I never say never. I do believe it could grow. And relative simple too. |
| 07:42 |
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root66 |
hey, I'd love to be wrong |
| 07:42 |
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root66 |
you never know |
| 07:42 |
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root66 |
but in the meantime I really like that it is so well known that they are assholes that a separate channel exists with 9 people who agree |
| 07:42 |
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mr_lou |
All it requires, is to keep track of the other java channels, and "catch" the "victims" when they're being bullied out. (That's right, you who's reading the log online. I said that). |
| 07:43 |
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mr_lou |
I think it could grow fast. |
| 07:44 |
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mr_lou |
I can't count the number of times I've seen people complain about the arrogance in channel #java. |
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root66 |
I'm sure |
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root66 |
I remember when there was a small group of people who controlled every language channel including #flash |
| 07:44 |
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root66 |
and they were all assholes |
| 07:45 |
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root66 |
believe me the idea of a "friendly only" network crossed my mind |
| 07:45 |
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aditsu |
I mostly agree with you guys, but I'd like to mention that this channel is not really about bad-mouthing ##java |
| 07:46 |
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root66 |
I know, it was just a convenient opportunity |
| 07:46 |
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firebird1 |
i have seen people mentality |
| 07:46 |
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aditsu |
my hope is to get people asking real java questions |
| 07:46 |
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firebird1 |
yep |
| 07:48 |
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mr_lou |
aditsu, This channel will relate to the bad-mouthing ##java, to anyone who's been there and discovers ##friendlyjava. Unavoidable with a name like ##friendlyjava. |
| 07:49 |
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root66 |
also, to be fair, it was more of a general theology on IRC that I have which specifically ties to this channel and why it exists |
| 07:49 |
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mr_lou |
Yea, it happens in many channels. |
| 07:49 |
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firebird1 |
boring conversation......... |
| 07:50 |
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mr_lou |
I like #friendly-coders. In there you can actually coding related channels and get a decent response. That's what ##friendlyjava should become too. |
| 07:51 |
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mr_lou |
*coding related questions, of course. |
| 07:51 |
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aditsu |
mr_lou: hmm, your "the" somewhat changes the meaning |
| 07:52 |
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root66 |
I think it works either way :P |
| 07:52 |
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root66 |
they are bad-mouthing and we are bad-mouthing them |
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root66 |
anyway, gotta run |
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firebird1 |
join #perl |
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mr_lou |
aditsu, I don't understand. |
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aditsu |
mr_lou: about bad-mouthing ##java vs about *the* bad-mouthing ##java |
| 07:56 |
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mr_lou |
Aah... ok, then I misunderstood what you said first. |
| 07:56 |
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mr_lou |
Ok, well of course I agree that this channel shouldn't be about "complaining" about other channels - in general. |
| 07:57 |
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mr_lou |
But with a name like ##friendlyjava, you can bet that most newcomers will start with something like: "Oh awesome to see this channel. I'm SO tired of ##Java". |
| 07:57 |
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mr_lou |
So it'll be a starting topic close to everytime a newcomer joins. :-) |
| 07:59 |
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aditsu |
only if they've had that experience before joining :p |
| 07:59 |
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mr_lou |
Yes. True. I'm sure most people have had that. :-) |
| 07:59 |
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mr_lou |
But we'll see. |
| 08:00 |
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mr_lou |
I gotta go spend time with my daughter. She's complaining I just sit here and chat. So see ya. |
| 08:00 |
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mr_lou |
Time to go play some V-smile. Yay! |
| 08:02 |
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* firebird1 |
well ppl say they're 30+ act as a kid |
| 08:03 |
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aditsu |
k, see you :) |
| 08:04 |
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root66 |
firebird1: you proved your age by mentioning perl. you might as well talk about the days "when trance music was good" |
| 08:04 |
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root66 |
no offense |
| 08:04 |
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root66 |
I'm old |
| 08:04 |
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firebird1 |
dude i'm not old |
| 08:04 |
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firebird1 |
i dont have a gf |
| 08:04 |
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firebird1 |
not even once |
| 08:05 |
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firebird1 |
can u pm me later |
| 08:05 |
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firebird1 |
buys |
| 08:05 |
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firebird1 |
busy |
| 08:06 |
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firebird1 |
i claim this channel as troll channel |
| 08:06 |
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firebird1 |
so bye |
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aditsu |
oh well |
| 08:09 |
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aditsu |
I think the feeling was somewhat mutual |
| 08:10 |
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root66 |
:) |
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