| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
|
ubitux |
i don't like meeting people :) |
| 00:00 |
|
melodie |
ie: http://www.meetup.com/internationalsinparis |
| 00:00 |
|
ubitux |
(that's what the name suggests) |
| 00:00 |
|
ubitux |
yeah no |
| 00:00 |
|
ubitux |
definitely, no ;) |
| 00:00 |
|
melodie |
what would you learn any language for then? |
| 00:00 |
|
ubitux |
read the internet, what else? |
| 00:01 |
|
melodie |
oh, ok. :) |
| 00:01 |
|
melodie |
what do you not like about meeting with some people once a while? |
| 00:01 |
|
ubitux |
people |
| 00:02 |
|
ubitux |
i actually do meet people once in a while |
| 00:02 |
|
melodie |
what do you not like about people? (nothing personal, just trying to understand the point of view) |
| 00:02 |
|
ubitux |
something like once every 6 month |
| 00:02 |
|
melodie |
:D |
| 00:03 |
|
ubitux |
i don't find much reason to actually talk with them |
| 00:03 |
|
ubitux |
i've already to deal with dozens of irc channels and mailing list |
| 00:03 |
|
ubitux |
and those mediums are way superior to real life for communication purpose |
| 00:04 |
|
ubitux |
typically, you can check for what's being said in real time |
| 00:04 |
|
ubitux |
you can look up for related information at the same time |
| 00:04 |
|
melodie |
ubitux this I can't deny |
| 00:04 |
|
ubitux |
you can go back in the history of the talk to re-read something you didn't understand |
| 00:04 |
|
ubitux |
etc etc |
| 00:05 |
|
melodie |
and maybe I should admit I am going more and more towards that as well |
| 00:05 |
|
ubitux |
so from a purely communication PoV, i don't see much interest in meeting in real life |
| 00:05 |
|
ubitux |
now from a "pleasure" PoV (basically the social gene and all that shit) |
| 00:05 |
|
ubitux |
i don't really have any |
| 00:06 |
|
ubitux |
but it depends |
| 00:06 |
|
ubitux |
once every 6 month, i'm happy to take one hour or two with real people :) |
| 00:06 |
|
melodie |
perhaps some circles gather people who are more interesting than others? |
| 00:06 |
|
melodie |
really once every six months? For how long? :D |
| 00:06 |
|
melodie |
5 minutes? One hour? Half a day? |
| 00:06 |
|
ubitux |
it's mostly random TBH |
| 00:07 |
|
ubitux |
1-2 hours |
| 00:07 |
|
ubitux |
time to eat or something |
| 00:07 |
|
melodie |
beg your pardon, what is TBH ? |
| 00:07 |
|
ubitux |
To Be Honest |
| 00:07 |
|
melodie |
ok |
| 00:07 |
|
ubitux |
duckduckgo.com/?q=!ud+tbh |
| 00:07 |
|
ubitux |
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=!ud+tbh |
| 00:08 |
|
melodie |
very good thanks |
| 00:08 |
|
melodie |
monday morning I was at the local open air market |
| 00:08 |
|
melodie |
it's a very typical one, and there are many merchants, I know a few who I am friend with. |
| 00:09 |
|
melodie |
there was sooo much people! and they were moving sooo slow I thought I could never get out of there! :D |
| 00:09 |
|
melodie |
they were like zombies going, totally asleep |
| 00:10 |
|
ubitux |
welcome to the real world neo |
| 00:10 |
|
ubitux |
zombies everywhere |
| 00:10 |
|
ubitux |
anyway, i like to have a talk with people from a different "world" than mine, sometimes |
| 00:10 |
|
ubitux |
but it's often mostly focused on braindead talks about non sense, stupid stories and shit |
| 00:11 |
|
ubitux |
i've access to all that crap all day through the internet, i don't need to go out with ppl to get that :p |
| 00:15 |
|
melodie |
and on Internet you can mostly avoid them... |
| 00:16 |
|
melodie |
yesterday I had a talk with a member of LinuxVillage who lives in the center of the US, where he was under tornadoe drills: not far from Oklahoma City where this was happening |
| 00:17 |
|
melodie |
I had a discussion then related to the natural environment and the wrong the humans have done to nature since they spread in the territories |
| 00:17 |
|
melodie |
later I started a discussion somewhere else, and talking with women who live in the States around the place told me the land has always been how it is |
| 00:18 |
|
melodie |
but later I found texts about a very old book written by an american man in 19th century... and this book among other things talk about lots of forests which were existing at that time |
| 00:19 |
|
melodie |
ubitux worse than having discussions of little value, I feel frustrated about discussions where some hypothesis going their way could lead one day to positive changes |
| 00:20 |
|
ubitux |
about your environment thing, you might want to check out http://www.ted.com/talks/allan_savory_how_to_green_the_world_s_deserts_and_reverse_climate_change.html |
| 00:21 |
|
melodie |
I will |
| 00:21 |
|
ubitux |
an interesting talk, which is pretty related to what you just said |
| 00:21 |
|
ubitux |
basically it's explaining why there are so much desert, and how to fight it |
| 00:21 |
|
ubitux |
it's pretty nice |
| 00:21 |
|
melodie |
I have seen this one formerly: http://www.ted.com/talks/willie_smits_restores_a_rainforest.html |
| 00:22 |
|
melodie |
and wrote this little article quoting this conference: http://meets.citrotux.org/2010/01/28/nos-amies-les-forets |
| 00:30 |
|
melodie |
ubitux I am watching the conference of Allan Savory now. Very nice! |
| 00:45 |
|
melodie |
I just finished watching, it is really great! I'll add it to the list of testimonials and methods to talk about and spread |
| 00:51 |
|
ubitux |
:) |
| 00:53 |
|
ubitux |
<+melodie> ubitux worse than having discussions of little value, I feel frustrated about discussions where some hypothesis going their way could lead one day to positive changes // talking should be done after action |
| 00:53 |
|
ubitux |
do something → discuss the results → loop |
| 00:53 |
|
ubitux |
the problem with throwing random hypothesis all the time is that it leads to nowhere |
| 00:53 |
|
ubitux |
and you're always stuck in your thoughts trying to figuring out problems that don't even exists yet and forgetting obvious ones |
| 00:54 |
|
ubitux |
get some shit done first, then discuss |
| 00:54 |
|
ubitux |
and that's why random meetings make no sense, since that's typically that kind of discussion |
| 00:54 |
|
melodie |
I was giving http://vakanala.org and http://www.ted.com/talks/willie_smits_restores_a_rainforest.html examples, but more is needed |
| 00:54 |
|
ubitux |
you could quote Mononoke Hime ;) |
| 00:55 |
|
melodie |
because some experiences which seem to me that it could be applied elsewhere may be defeated by some local specific conditions which I don't know about, of course |
| 00:55 |
|
ubitux |
if you're into animes, i might have some stuff to recommend on nature & shit |
| 00:55 |
|
melodie |
Mononoke Hime ? Who is that ? :) |
| 00:55 |
|
ubitux |
ow. |
| 00:55 |
|
ubitux |
http://myanimelist.net/anime/164/Mononoke_Hime |
| 00:55 |
|
ubitux |
come on. |
| 00:55 |
|
melodie |
coming, coming :D |
| 00:56 |
|
ubitux |
even my parents know them |
| 00:56 |
|
ubitux |
s/them/it/ |
| 00:57 |
|
melodie |
ubitux allow me to put one thing |
| 00:58 |
|
melodie |
I am the kind of person who nevers says "yes" when I don't know about sometihng |
| 00:58 |
|
melodie |
something |
| 00:58 |
|
melodie |
I don't know : I ask |
| 00:58 |
|
melodie |
nothing more, nothing less |
| 00:58 |
|
melodie |
I am not going to change about that |
| 00:58 |
|
melodie |
now I am reading your page :) |
| 00:59 |
|
ubitux |
i was just wondering in what universe you were frolicking these last years |
| 00:59 |
|
melodie |
not in the same as yours, very probably |
| 00:59 |
|
ubitux |
you shouldn't be reading the page, you should be downloading it and watching the progress |
| 01:00 |
|
ubitux |
melodie: hime = princess, never heard of this? |
| 01:00 |
|
ubitux |
i mean, you should have met one or two otaku in your life |
| 01:00 |
|
ubitux |
even on irc |
| 01:01 |
|
melodie |
*I just met with you again. Isn't that great? :D |
| 01:01 |
|
ubitux |
:) |
| 01:03 |
|
melodie |
ubitux could you come a few minutes to the #linuxvillage chan and explain a few details to me in French? |
| 01:03 |
|
melodie |
I'll be right here, need a glass of water... |
| 01:04 |
|
ubitux |
what a vicious method to get me there... |
| 01:07 |
|
melodie |
you can go and leave whenever you want just here we should talk English only, and in #linuxvillage we can talk either or |
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