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mani1 |
Hi all |
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sjmaple |
hello! |
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sjmaple |
we're going live in just a second... |
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sjmaple |
live now! |
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mani1 |
Cool @sjmaple see you now |
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mani1 |
Hey Nikola Good to see on VJUG |
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Where is Oleg, missing Mr Oleg! |
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sjmaple: Do you have a hangout running as well? |
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Docker-Houston |
@simon can you, please, type that url here, one in bit.ly |
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sjmaple |
Nicolai's book - https://www.manning.com/books/the-java-9-module-system?a_aid=nipa&a_bid=869915cb |
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sjmaple |
Docker-Houston http://bit.ly/ZT_JDK9 |
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Docker-Houston |
thank you |
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sjmaple |
@mani Oleg is in Madrid :) |
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sjmaple |
@mani1 Oleg is in Madrid :) |
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mani1 |
I have started a thread on twitter - https://twitter.com/virtualJUG/status/889877952690888708, please share anything on there |
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mani1 |
also shared a link and about Nicolas' book link on there |
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Vikzzzz |
is this book a good starter book or I need to be affluent with core java concepts before getting my hands on it? |
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sjmaple |
slides: http://slides.codefx.org/java-9-migration |
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sjmaple |
I expect it requires Java knowledge, but can ask Nicolai |
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christopwner |
thanks mani1 almost missed stream since nothing on twitter :P |
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sjmaple |
code: https://github.com/CodeFX-org/demo-java-9-migration |
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mani1 |
christopwner: do you now see it? |
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christopwner |
mani1: ya, had to remove the extra , |
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mikec |
audio is not good |
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mani1 |
christopwner: clicking the link works |
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Gilberto |
Have to reload the page two time now. The video freezes! |
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Gilberto |
Going with 144 by now |
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mani1 |
The resolution of the video isn't great it could just be my end |
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mani1 |
Ok corrected it was my screen |
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Materano02 |
sim |
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mani1 |
https://twitter.com/virtualJUG/status/889877952690888708 - pls share and post your comments messages here |
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mani1 |
Thats interesting stuff on maven profiles - thnx nikola |
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dummkopf |
reflection issues with JDK 9? |
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dummkopf |
module not exposed probably |
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sjmaple |
this is just access problems rather than reflection |
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dummkopf |
yup.. that's right |
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sjmaple |
although reflection has another solution :) |
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dummkopf |
Base64.Encoder |
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mani1 |
Hurray! builds! |
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sjmaple |
hahah, bytebuddy... reflect all the things! :) |
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dummkopf |
Maven absolutely sucks! :D |
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dummkopf |
Gradle is so much better... comparatively speaking |
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mani1 |
sjmaple: question for Nikolas - would it be a good idea to preserve the ${argLine} property and append to it? |
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christopwner |
so much for mockito tests D: |
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sjmaple |
Gradle doesn't support modules yet tho :( |
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sjmaple |
*sad-panda* |
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dummkopf |
sjmaple: :( |
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dummkopf |
I hope they bring it out before the official release! |
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sjmaple |
yeh, Java 9 classpath on gradle works just fine afaik |
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mani1 |
sjmaple: can we run jdeps on this build app to see what it says? |
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mani1 |
Gradle is still working on its j9 issues - checkout their git repo |
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LAFK_pl |
it cannot see package annotation, not package xml-bind |
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mani1 |
sjmaple: question for Nikolas - why are we not using the --module-path param, but -cp - is it due to presence of unnamed modules / jars? |
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sjmaple |
we're not modularising the app yet |
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mani1 |
aah! I see just compiling and running it |
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sjmaple |
so far it's just putting a J8 app onto the J9 cp |
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sjmaple |
yeo |
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sjmaple |
yep |
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sjmaple |
and it's Nicolai, btw ;) |
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sjmaple |
any final questions for Nicolai? |
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mikec |
Are you going to post the link to this presentation? |
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sjmaple |
to the video or slides? |
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mikec |
either/both |
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sjmaple |
slides: http://slides.codefx.org/java-9-migration |
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sjmaple |
video will be the same youtube url |
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mikec |
ok thanks |
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sjmaple |
http://youtu.be/NKY2FYTCo7I |
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sjmaple |
np |
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mani1 |
sjmaple: how long is this session going to be? another hour? |
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sjmaple |
not sure :) |
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sjmaple |
I expect another 15-20 mins at most |
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mikec |
what I just took from all of that is that modules are not on the cp, and as we convert to modules --cp leaves and -addmodules is used, is that correct? |
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mikec |
ok, so modules can stay on the cp, Then why use a module path, what is the benefit? |
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sjmaple |
you would use -mp instead of -cp |
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mikec |
ok got it |
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sjmaple |
-addmodules is only used if your app does not depend on a module that you require to be loaded |
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sjmaple |
imo, modules is really only useful for library authors |
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sjmaple |
as the encapsulation can be useful |
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sjmaple |
if you wanted a modular codebase, you could use the module system to enforce that |
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sjmaple |
but imo, OSGi is better as it's more dynamic |
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mikec |
I was going to say that |
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sjmaple |
the only problem is, OSGi isn't part of base Java :) |
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sjmaple |
which is a PITA |
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bobgutierrez |
Is there a github space for the shown code ? |
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sjmaple |
yep... https://github.com/CodeFX-org/demo-java-9-migration |
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mikec |
thanks gotta go |
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bobgutierrez |
Thanks |
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sjmaple |
bfn |
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johnsgp |
Big thumbs up |
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sjmaple |
any last questions? |
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tjololo |
Thanks alot Nicolai! this session is one for the books |
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christopwner |
thanks! |
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Itachi |
Great session Nicolai! |
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