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Hey folks ... |
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Is this the place for the Java9 thing ? |
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teyo |
hey Tim, I think so.. |
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Cool, the live video thing still seems to have the Docker thing |
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Hey Viktar |
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Raminder |
Hello All |
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tjololo |
hi |
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xala3pa |
Hi |
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Ako |
hi |
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Raminder |
Do we need to stick to https://virtualjug.com/#live |
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viktar |
Hi! |
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zarkopafilis |
Basically do we needto reload? |
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Raminder |
This is my first Live session, just need to confirm correct url to see the content |
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This doesnt seem like ajax refreshing like automatically |
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Do we need to stick to https://virtualjug.com/#live |
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has the live session started yet? |
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kirant |
don't know ..I can't see anything :( |
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tjololo |
Raminder: I usually just wait for the youtube stream to show up on virtualjug.com/#live and then I cast it to my AndroidTV |
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wow, thanks tjololo. thats nice |
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Guest99365 |
is virtual meetup going on now? |
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Raminder |
seems not yet |
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JoseMiguel |
Is the meeting starting? |
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Raminder |
Keep looking at http://irclog.greptilian.com/text.pl?channel=virtualJUG;date=2017-04-22 |
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tatyangp |
could someone pls provide a link to stream |
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tatyangp |
? |
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my virtualjug.com/#live is still showing Docker session |
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zarkopafilis |
they say they are getting ready |
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tjololo |
they are usually announce it here when the live session start |
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sdfgjh |
ok, waiting when |
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kirant |
ok |
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sdfgjh |
*then |
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hi everyone |
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hi |
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AlexGor |
Did anybody read one letter? |
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It's up on youtube |
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tjololo |
https://youtu.be/y868lMk6NtY |
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elendis |
thanks! |
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viktar |
Thanks! |
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kirant |
thanks alot |
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tjololo |
it, might change, but thats the current link thats available on youtube:) |
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is it started ? |
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nope |
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Raminder |
On meetup page, time is in GMT -> 10.30am - Modules introduction |
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Raminder |
Am I missing anything? |
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Raminder |
but it says Rough Schedule |
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In meetup was at 10:00 but on the agenda is at 10:30 |
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Raminder |
hmm |
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tjololo |
Mani is still commenting on the Meetup so I don't think they have started yet:) |
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yeah!! first session starts at 10:30 |
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https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/jdk9-jigsaw |
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the link for downloading Java9 on website is not working, i guess is better to use this: http://jdk.java.net/9/l |
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I am getting 404 on clicking on this link |
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http://jdk.java.net/9/ |
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http://jdk.java.net/9/ |
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The YT streaming link is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y868lMk6NtY |
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ok, kicking off very soon |
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alright |
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Starting soon? |
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hey gang |
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hey gang |
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cdthompso1 |
Uncertain it will be a problem, but just a reminder that you may need to use the YouTube sprocket (lower right corner) to set the quality if video is blurry. |
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cdthompso1 |
(it's not available right now) |
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sjmaple |
ok, about to kick off stream now |
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sjmaple |
if you cannot see us in about 30 seconds, please refresh |
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kirant |
ok |
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zarkopafilis |
That;s a lot o devs |
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MarcusL |
awesome, lets code |
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McPringle |
I updated the JDK 9 Jigsaw links in the GitHub repo: https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/jdk9-jigsaw/pull/37 |
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rosario |
https://thepasteb.in/p/66hVzm1w7YOFW |
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karianna |
Hey all, Martijn here - if you have any questions about AdoptOpenJDK and/or the new build farm we're creating for Java itself, let me know. Happy Hacking! |
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rosario |
i am using Oracle version and got an error XD |
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fabriziocucci |
someone should put the microphone on mute, too many voices in the background! :( |
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cdthompso1 |
https://goo.gl/oytFzX and https;//git.io/v9UJ8 |
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cdthompso1 |
sorry, https://git.io/v9UJ8 |
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karianna |
I've accepted a Pull Request which corrects the alternative link for the Jigsaw download |
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rene-enriquez- |
cool |
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karianna |
http://jdk.java.net/jigsaw/ |
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anand |
is the session still going on? |
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anand |
The video is stuck for e |
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LukeH |
yep |
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anand |
*for me |
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MarcusL |
try a page refresh |
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anand |
even after refresh, the video is not playing... |
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rene-enriquez- |
can you send that link by here pls |
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RNK007 |
please send the link here |
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Eddy |
nothing yet... |
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MarcusL |
@anand you could also try to open the live session directly at youtube |
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LukeH |
https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/jdk9-jigsaw/tree/master/session-1-jigsaw-intro |
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rene-enriquez- |
cool |
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cdthompso1 |
thanks, LukeH |
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sjmaple |
https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/jdk9-jigsaw/tree/master/session-1-jigsaw-intro |
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KingJasper |
Hello. |
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HarmeetSingh |
Hello, WHere is the feedback form ? |
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TheKingJasper |
Better :) |
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sjmaple |
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fIg3w7qMlnNL5iW_vZRUJ2ObU1MdR0e08N5dWrIKOMU/edit?pli=1# |
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no |
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sjmaple |
ok, refresh now |
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Are they Reading this chat Also? |
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RNK007 |
why is it so blurry |
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zarkopafilis |
Seems nice but too much boilerplate for the javac |
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maurizio_pietran |
audio? |
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no sound |
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spatial |
It is blurry for me too. |
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Alberto |
me too |
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Eddy |
don't see no stream... |
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zarkopafilis |
@sjmaple sound pls |
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Alberto |
sound please |
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kirant |
cant hear |
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rene-enriquez- |
can I open REPO/jdk9-jigsaw/session-1-jigsaw-intro/01_Greetings in netbeans? |
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rene-enriquez- |
and how to do that |
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blalasaadri |
You can set the video quality on Youtube. That makes it much less blurry. ;-) |
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rene-enriquez- |
it's not working |
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cdthompso1 |
for blur, mouseover the youtube window, click sprocket icon in lower right, and change "quality" |
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zarkopafilis |
yeah better leave it at auto, stream may lag otherwise |
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fjavierm_ |
sound is back |
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McPringle |
Audio is back |
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zarkopafilis |
ok we hear you now |
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blalasaadri |
Ah, audio is back! :-) |
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blalasaadri |
No audio again |
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zh |
audio has disappeared again for me... |
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HarmeetSingh |
no audio |
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blalasaadri |
That's better |
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kirant |
audio is back |
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HarmeetSingh |
audio is back |
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rene-enriquez- |
gotcha |
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TheKingJasper |
How will Java9 impact Programs made in Like Java 7 and 8? |
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rene-enriquez- |
thanks |
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TheKingJasper |
Will they all break? |
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blalasaadri |
Now audio and video are gone. :-( |
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kirant |
Backward Compatibility?? |
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HarmeetSingh |
no audio |
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kirant |
no audio and video? |
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zarkopafilis |
On packaging, why org.astro is package with version 1.0 but the module with the main class, not packaged with a version? |
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TheKingJasper |
So will there be Backward Compatibility?? |
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Sumit |
I am trying 01_greetings |
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Sumit |
and getting this error |
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JoseMiguel22 |
git clone of the link was failing to me fatal reposotiry not found. Fixed cloning the parent folder: https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/jdk9-jigsaw |
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JoseMiguel22 |
There is no sound or image |
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Jitendra |
Greetings! Success |
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Sumit |
java.lang.module.FindException: Module com.greetings not found |
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MarcusL |
@Sumit try running the compile.sh first |
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rene-enriquez- |
it works!!! cool |
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Jitendra |
Sumit first run compile.sh |
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Jitendra |
then run.sh |
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ishan |
its working |
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ishan |
but have no idea what happened |
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ishan |
it created class files in mod package |
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ishan |
it created class files in mods package |
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HarmeetSingh |
guy's what happen |
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HarmeetSingh |
there is no sound |
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HarmeetSingh |
what are going on ? |
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Eirini_gr |
There is no sound again.. |
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kirant |
no audio :( |
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no sound |
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sjmaple |
sound is back I think |
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Jitendra |
yes :) |
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sjmaple |
although, we'll be mostly working through the exercises using IRC |
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HarmeetSingh |
no clear, yet |
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JoseMiguel22 |
sound is back |
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sjmaple |
unless people think it would be useful to see someone's screen and watch them work through particular exercises? |
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sjmaple |
If people want that, we can do that too |
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HarmeetSingh |
@sjmaple still, I am confuse with agenda |
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codefire |
its not clear at all |
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blalasaadri1 |
It would be useful to see the exact code someone is looking at while explaining it. Whether that's via audio or IRC is a secondary issue. |
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zarkopafilis |
ServiceLoader ROCKS!! |
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zarkopafilis |
Now I'm thinking what's spring gonna do with this whole ecosystem around DI |
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HarmeetSingh |
Yep, it is clear |
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karianna |
Trying to answer some questions here: |
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karianna |
The Java 9 code samples willalmost certainly not run in an IDE as IDE support is not uptodate yet |
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HarmeetSingh |
Okay, Thanks @sjmaple |
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TheKingJasper |
So will there be Backward Compatibility? |
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karianna |
@TheKingJasper - sort of |
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rene-enriquez- |
cool |
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zarkopafilis |
TheKingJasper na |
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zarkopafilis |
betterwrite java 8 |
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karianna |
To answer Backwards compatibility |
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karianna |
To answer Backwards compatibility: |
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TheKingJasper |
Rip. |
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zarkopafilis |
compiling 9 to work backwards is not a good idea |
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MarczykM |
may be useful for someone http://www.webupd8.org/2015/02/install-oracle-java-9-in-ubuntu-linux.html |
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zarkopafilis |
I think it's the first time they removed some methods breaking compatibility as well |
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karianna |
Running Java 6,7,8 code in Java 9 will work but if you rely on any sun.misc.Unsafe or other 'internal' modules then you'll need to use special flags |
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rene-enriquez- |
scripts are working so good, but just for the sake of simplicity, is currently any IDE that supports this compilateion? |
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karianna |
If you compile Java 9 code in a *modular* manner then that will *not* run on older versions of Java |
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javapapo |
this channel is not very helpful towards coordinating the event especially locally |
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hendrik_ebbers |
I*m using IntelliJ 2017 preview for Java9 |
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kirant |
i am using Intellij |
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javapapo |
I guess a temp slack channel would much better |
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karianna |
If you compile Java 9 code in *classpath mode* then that might work |
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zarkopafilis |
Everything, IntelliJ has got some experimantal j9 support integrated for half an year now |
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Javilete |
Using Intellij here as well |
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javapapo |
IntelliJ +1 |
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rene-enriquez- |
nice advice guys |
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zarkopafilis |
yeah but *classpath mode* should be left behind |
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kirant |
Intellij works OK with Java 9 |
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zarkopafilis |
It's not like you are required to use j9 to talk to some random legacy program |
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hendrik_ebbers |
For my JShell Samples later I will use IntelliJ 2017 Community edition, too. Would make sense if you have installed it. WIll makes thinks easier ;) |
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zarkopafilis |
ULTIMATE will do I guess |
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HarmeetSingh |
while running first example, compile.sh script, I am getting this error compile.sh: 15: compile.sh: OSTYPE: parameter not set |
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karianna |
@zarkopafilis - but if your Java 9 program (modular version) wants to include 3rd party libs there can be issues |
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karianna |
There's still a bit of discussion on how this will work easily (auto-modules) |
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sjmaple |
@HarmeetSingh wanna join the hangout and screenshare? |
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HarmeetSingh |
okay, sure |
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sjmaple |
we can work though together maybe, I'll DM you the link |
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zarkopafilis |
@karianna yeah that's the point, you gotta wait for everyone to update unless you use some external framework to pass them around and make them accessible via a ServiceLoader or something like that |
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JoseMiguel22 |
Greeting working!! |
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hendrik_ebbers |
@sjmaple should we give a short introduction how to use J9 in IntelliJ Community edition? |
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zarkopafilis |
Look at what .net is doing, rewriting whole framework with parts of language ,destructive changes if you want it to run on linux and they dont even care |
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Teyo |
+1 short intro, J9 on IntelliJ |
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rene-enriquez- |
yeah, Alberto Salazar from Ecuador is there |
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michael_bateman |
can these run on intellij? |
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javapapo |
^^ yes |
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kirant |
yes |
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kirant |
its working with intellij |
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zarkopafilis |
javapapo kalhmera :3 |
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javapapo |
Intellij -> Open -> Pick the 'Greetingsxxx' folder it should automatically pick it up |
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javapapo |
2017.1 supports module-info |
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michael_bateman |
get this java.lang.module.ResolutionException: Modules deploy and plugin.legacy export package com.sun.deploy.uitoolkit.ui to module javafx.swt |
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Jitendra |
intelliJ 2017 |
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Teyo |
(y) thanks |
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rene-enriquez- |
I'm currently working on 05_Missing_exports. Just wondering, it means that we have to export every single package from a module? |
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spatial |
Choose VCS and git clone in 2017 IntelliJ directly |
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zarkopafilis |
rene-enriquez- only whatever is used by your program or you wish to make available as a library |
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rene-enriquez- |
Ic thanks zarkopafilis |
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rene-enriquez- |
I guess it will autoimport other classes it has (I mean, other classes in the same module), toght? |
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rene-enriquez- |
right? * |
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mani2 |
@michael can you please give more background with your error |
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HarmeetSingh |
after executing ./run.sh I am getting this error: Unrecognized option: --module-path |
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HarmeetSingh |
something miss by me ? |
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sjmaple |
you're using Java 8 :) |
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Sumit |
@HarneetSingh - check you are pointing to jdk9 |
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HarmeetSingh |
but in terminal, I am exporting java9 path |
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HarmeetSingh |
for temporary basis |
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ishan |
javac -version |
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hendrik_ebbers |
try "java -version" |
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HarmeetSingh |
But these, examples are run successfully |
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HarmeetSingh |
https://github.com/harmeetsingh0013/java9-jigsaw-samples |
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mani2 |
@michael.bateman can you please share how you got that error |
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michael_bateman |
hi mani |
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mani2 |
maybe even paste the error and how to reproduce it in the google doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fIg3w7qMlnNL5iW_vZRUJ2ObU1MdR0e08N5dWrIKOMU/edit?pli=1#heading=h.696ftsevnpdh |
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michael_bateman |
I was coming but I've got a cold |
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hendrik_ebbers |
@HarmeetSingh by running the sh skript? |
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rene-enriquez- |
On the 06 folder, what means: uses com.socket.spi.NetworkSocketProvider; |
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mani2 |
@michael aah, but connecting from home? thats great |
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HarmeetSingh |
yes @hendrik_ebbers |
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Sumit |
sorry if I have missed out earlier, why java9 is doing this modularization? what are the benefits we are gonna get? |
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mani2 |
We will be talking talking about that during lunch - stay tuned @Sumit |
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Sumit |
ok |
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rene-enriquez- |
OMG - this is really cool |
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rene-enriquez- |
provides com.socket.spi.NetworkSocketProvider |
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rene-enriquez- |
with org.fastsocket.FastNetworkSocketProvider; |
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hendrik_ebbers |
@HarmeetSingh in the skript the Java folder is defined. Maybe you are using the wrong version by not doing this. |
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hendrik_ebbers |
@sjmaple / @mani2 How can I add the chat to IRCCLoud? Need host / port :) |
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kirant |
how about Backward Compatibility? |
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sjmaple |
@hendrik_ebbers irc.freenode.net 6697 |
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hendrik_ebbers |
"No such channel/nick on freenode (irc.freenode.net:6697), try again. |
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hendrik_ebbers |
" |
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ishan |
which Indian JUG is joining? |
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elendis |
Are there any main conceptual differences between j9 and osgi? |
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Eswar |
error: illegal argument for --module-path: mods |
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Eswar |
java version "9-ea" |
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hendrik_ebbers_ |
AHHH |
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hendrik_ebbers_ |
perfect |
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kennedy_sigauke |
Is it possible to further restrict which packages in an exported module are accessible from the module-info.java ? |
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hendrik_ebbers_ |
@kennedy_sigauke you can define what packages are accessable by defualt or by a specific module |
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hendrik_ebbers_ |
see https://www.sitepoint.com/reflection-vs-encapsulation-in-the-java-module-system/ |
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karianna |
@elendis - there are lots and lots of differences. OSGi is far more permissive but many would say overly so |
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mani2 |
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fIg3w7qMlnNL5iW_vZRUJ2ObU1MdR0e08N5dWrIKOMU/edit?pli=1#heading=h.i4vsw9x7h6nn |
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stimorol |
What is the difference between 02_GreetingsWorld code and 03_MultiModuleCompilation code ? It looks the same may be a copy paste error |
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zarkopafilis |
First one compiles sequantially |
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zarkopafilis |
second one all together |
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stimorol |
for performance goal ? |
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zarkopafilis |
Not exactly, just to showcase how you can compile without caring about dependencies |
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zarkopafilis |
They only get evaluated on runtime after all |
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zarkopafilis |
keep going and you will understand it |
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zarkopafilis |
especially with patch module |
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stimorol |
thank you for the answer |
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JoseMiguel22 |
another issue in scripts to run and compile. $COM_GREETINGS_FOLDER is a variable in build, but is hardcoded in run |
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kennedy_sigauke |
Does the order of the dependencies determine how each module is compiled? If that's the case, how does Java 9 deal with circular dependencies where modules can be dependent on each other? |
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zarkopafilis |
lunch time here |
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karianna |
@kennedy_sigauke - the module loader takes care of this but does *not* allow circular dependencies. |
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karianna |
This is a hotly debated open issue :-) |
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kennedy_sigauke |
@karianna thanks :) |
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and Northern Norway will put another log on the fire:) |
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while setting vagrant on ubuntu getting following error: Vagrant: The host path of the shared folder is missing |
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Sumit |
had anyone faced issue with exercise 07? |
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Sumit |
I am getting below error |
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Sumit |
java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap.<init>(I)V |
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tjololo |
Sumit: same here |
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:( |
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tjololo |
java -version returns 9-ea. But for me it might be som problem do to the fact that fedora adds symbolic links in /usr/bin to java/javac/... instead of adding $JAVA_HOME to the path :S |
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stimorol |
same error as few others in exercise 07 |
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tjololo |
but I have updated the java, javac and jar symlinks so shouldn't be a problem |
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JavaGhost_ |
yes, ex 07 seems to be broken. Java tries to instantiate the original ConcurrentHashMap Class instead of the --patch-module one :-( |
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ishan |
feedback are on IRC? |
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felipe |
Hey guys |
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felipe |
I am having the same problem |
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felipe |
I don't think Java is pointing to the original ConcurrentHashMap |
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felipe |
Because if you remove patch, it gives you another erorr |
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zh |
the ex package I downloaded does not have 07_session; from 06 on, there is 08 then 10... I downloaded the package yesterday afternoon. |
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ishan |
Runtime is a exe? |
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ishan |
an* |
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ishan |
which kind of file is Runtime? |
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JavaGhost_ |
yes, its a Problem with the default constructor. Java tries to call a default constructor with an integer parameter. If you add that constructor, you get an error, that the default constructor of Abstract map is inaccessible. |
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zh |
so java.lang.NoSuchMethodError happens with 08_ |
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tjololo |
zh: happens with pathc_module_option (if that helps) |
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JoseMiguel22 |
micro services could be easier? |
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ssouris_ |
embedded systems needs smaller core? |
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need* |
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reinhapa |
Having a more stable configuration knowing in advance if all dependencies are meet |
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dhwaneel |
OSGi supports bundle-level as well as package-level versioning... |
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cdthompso1 |
golden path? |
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felipe |
How could it help in runtime? |
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cdthompso1 |
ah. OSGi was never promoted or embraced as a best practice. |
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felipe |
Is it possible to put a patch only with part of code? |
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cdthompso1 |
maybe that's a potential future vJUG session: designing modularly. |
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zh |
dependency on particular version? |
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tjololo |
I know there was some conserns raised by the spring framework guys, since much of the spring framework uses classes that possible be locked by the jigsaw. What is the status on that topic? |
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cdthompso1 |
you're right. ops & infosec people are going to demand explanations |
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tjololo |
would the jigsaw encapsulation break "some" of the reflection "magic" that happens in the spring framework |
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@sjmaple need be be off for 10 min :( |
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ishan |
it is an exe thats y |
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cdthompso1 |
this driven by IoT and likely to supplant JavaME? |
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(not to suggest that ME is thriving) |
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mani2 |
https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/jdk9-jigsaw/tree/master/session-2-jlink |
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RNK007 |
https://thepasteb.in/p/P1hvWX95WovUl https://thepasteb.in/p/58hgE93W8WAsv |
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RNK007 |
for some reason i am getting that error |
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ishan |
Could you please explain this line "The directory `mlib` on the module path contains the artifact for module `com.greetings`" |
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ishan |
module path? |
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mani2 |
Can everyone please also post the feedback or errors in the google doc (https://goo.gl/oytFzX ) |
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mani2 |
mlib = module path for eg. jlink --module-path "${JAVA_HOME}\jmods;mlib" \ .... |
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mani2 |
@RNK007 do you have JDK 9 installed, can you run java -version on your command prompt |
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RNK007 |
yes.. it was ok before lunch |
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RNK007 |
java version "9-ea" |
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HarmeetSingh |
please describe briefly about Jmod ? |
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RNK007 |
@mani2, compile.sh goes fine |
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ishan |
I have created an exwecutable |
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ishan |
how do I run with Javac command> |
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ishan |
command* |
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zh |
Would you repeat the JLink ex url please? |
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sjmaple |
https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/jdk9-jigsaw/tree/master/session-2-jlink |
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sjmaple |
this one? |
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mani2 |
@ishan you use the Java command to run things, have a look at the script - if its created using the --launcher option, the exeutable is inside the distributable folder, otherwise you say <folder>java/bin/ ... (its iin the jlink exercise) |
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mani2 |
@harmeet: there is an exercise on JMod, and some info in the README, with links to resources, at the moment the use of JMod is limited, its used to create module packages (bundle one or more modules or packages into a single file) |
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(I added this to the GDoc file as well): I noticed that the executable directory that is generated in session 01 is only 44 Mb. Is the build process limiting the JDK modules that it includes somehow? If so, how? There doesn’t seem to be any info about what JDK modules to include in the module-info.java files in the project. |
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@mani2 is it possible to run jmod file like jar ? |
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mani2 |
HarmeetSingh: its similar to running JImage but not like jar - the command does not produce jar compatible (binary compatible) files. |
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HarmeetSingh |
I am sorry, But i am not familiar with jimage ? |
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blalasaadri1 |
The JMod example seems to be missing the com.greetings sources. Copying them from the JLink example works though. |
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mani2 |
HarmeetSingh: the answers to your questions are here - https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/jdk9-jigsaw/tree/master/session-2-jlink/02_JMod |
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mani2 |
blalasaadri: thanks for that- Pull request for all of us? please |
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mani2 |
blalasaadri: thanks again mate |
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HarmeetSingh |
@mani2 i was going though this readme, but still, its bit confusing, what is jimage ? |
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mani2 |
HarmeetSingh: no you can run JMod files - just now its not clear what the use it, so far we know we use it to encapsulate modules + jar (fatjar like) |
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mani2 |
HarmeetSingh: its a good question, JImage isn;t explained but when you do the JLink exercise you will be looking into it |
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mani2 |
HarmeetSingh: type jimage in the command line: jimage --help, it a good starting point |
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HarmeetSingh |
okay that @mani2 |
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mani2 |
JImabge is the final format into which modules (JDK+AppModules) are compiled into which is run by the executable |
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mani2 |
General message whenever something isn;t clear or confusing (google does help), but for the sake of this hackday please use this doc: https://goo.gl/oytFzX, if you don;t share with us your feedback it gets lost and does not help the next developer (or next hackday) |
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mani2 |
HarmeetSingh: everything is clear? its good to be in a confused state and do something about it ;) which is what you are doing exactly --- good one |
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HarmeetSingh |
Yes, I think @mani2 |
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ishan |
why does mlibs creates "org.astro 1.0.jar" ? why that @ sign? |
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mani2 |
I think it was an attempt to show version-ing but people had questions about it already, its a discussable topic |
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zh |
Error: invalid path: mods/com.greetings:mods/org.astro when run runJMod.sh |
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MarcusL |
@zh same here |
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MarcusL |
@zh are you on Windows? maybe its the separator |
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ishan |
same here |
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ishan |
I am on windows |
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zh |
Yes. I am on windows. I`ve tried ";" as classpath separator and got different error... |
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MarcusL |
@zh yea didn't work |
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MarcusL |
https://thepasteb.in/p/pghQmoq1mYEFR |
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MarcusL |
nvm it's just overriding the first classpath |
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GregorK |
This worked for me on windows: jmod create --class-path mods\com.greetings;mods\org.astro greetings.jmod |
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GregorK |
change the slash and the separator |
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ishan |
https://thepasteb.in/p/Vmh03ymQg62u4 |
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michael_bateman |
whats the slack channel? |
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ishan |
how do I run jmod? |
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MarcusL |
@ishan i dont think its ment to be used as an executable, got this from docs.oracle: "The JMOD file format enables you to aggregate files other than .class files, metadata, and resources. This format is transportable but not executable, which means that you can use it during compile time or link time but not at run time." |
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blalasaadri1 |
I've created a pull request, which fixes the patch example and also shows how to use patches with modules. |
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reinhapa |
For a Gradle Build under JDK 9 see AdoptOpenJDK Splitpkgscan |
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reinhapa |
https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/jsplitpkgscan |
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mani2 |
hendrik_ebbers_: I have merged your PR |
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JoseMiguel22 |
i think that jlink has a bug with spaces in the JAVA_HOME |
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JoseMiguel22 |
I installed by devault in Program Files, but the jlink didn´t generate the executable. After moved to a folder without spaces worked |
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JoseMiguel22 |
I´m in windows |
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last one about jlink, avast antivirus is not recognizing the generated java as trusted app, and it´s removing it on execution |
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maurizio_pietran |
thank you guys, I need to go now |
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mani2 |
Everyone thanks for the feedback and also the Pull requests trying to fix the issues |
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mani2 |
Please share your views and feedback via twitter - https://twitter.com/theNeomatrix369/status/855763366677237760 |
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mani2 |
#shareViaSocialmedia |
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ishan |
why should I use JShell in java code? It is doing the same thing right? |
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ishan |
JShell API* |
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ishan |
what is the purpose of this API> |
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ishan: now you can have code that generates code that the code runs and generates code that the code runs that.... :P |
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ishan |
:D :D |
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ishan |
no seriously, can some please ask to the presenter? |
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mani2 |
ishan: use the google doc to ask questions as a feedback: https://goo.gl/oytFzX |
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JShell for console only? |
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mani2 |
Did everyone enjoy the Jlink and Jmod examples, especially can we see how the JDK modules and our app modules get bundled into the distributable (portable JDK) |
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mani2: I enjoyd it:) |
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i can see scenarios where this could be integrated into monitoring solutions |
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monitoring logs? |
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mani2 |
Please add your feedback to the feedback form: https://goo.gl/oytFzX - we are now switching to feedback session (about 30 mins) give feedback for all topics |
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mani2 |
https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/jdk9-jigsaw/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed have a look at how we have resolved some of the issues - feel free to create new ones |
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mani2 |
https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/jdk9-jigsaw/pulls - these are still worked on, feel free to chip in and help review them |
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mani2 |
Any questions for Hendrik or others - for all the topics of the day |
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maryg |
Chicago JUG is here :) |
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cdthompso1 |
@CentralPAJUG is/was, too |
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cdthompso1 |
this was a great preview. thanks for all the prep you guys put in |
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JoseMiguel22 |
Thanks a lot, good job!! |
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tjololo |
Thanks a lot! |
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maryg |
Cool event! Thanks |
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