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Hello! |
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hello everyone! |
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we're just tracking down Nicolai |
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will start a few mins late, he's joining now :) |
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find_nicolai_test : FAILED |
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return true; :) |
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shelajev |
we have Nicolai now, but not the internet cable yet |
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sjmaple |
:) |
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shelajev |
but we're fixing it |
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shelajev |
http://i.imgur.com/vWkPc1m.gif |
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shelajev |
kinda like this |
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sievemaker |
hmmm... |
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lol |
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Sankar |
did the session begin? |
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Sankar |
same here |
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Luigi |
same here |
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panshulG |
are we there yet? |
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Aino |
Hi Guys |
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shelajev |
ready to go |
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shelajev |
we're live. not it should only be the delay between the hangouts and the youtube |
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shelajev |
if the video doesn't start, please refresh the page |
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resquito |
started |
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shelajev |
thank you! |
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shelajev |
sorry for the delay! |
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yes |
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shelajev |
if the quality of the video is not the best, please use the youtube video cog icon to change the quality of the vide |
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shelajev |
*video |
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yes |
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Ales |
Hello Guys) |
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Tahir |
can't stream the vidoe |
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Tahir |
can you please share some other link if you do have |
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Eugen |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct9sIsrnE9Y |
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shelajev |
we only have the youtube stream, sorry |
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Tahir |
vidoe not starting |
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Tahir |
perhaps something terrible wrong with my internet connection |
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panshulG |
runs fine for me |
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resquito |
fine here |
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shelajev |
I've checked the video on the virtualjug.com and it worked for me. Tahir, can you please check the connection |
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shelajev |
and tell if that resolves the problem? |
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vksvicky |
public |
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public |
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Sankar |
public |
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ddd12 |
test is not public |
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Guest89551 |
public |
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Eugen |
BeforeClass |
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Before |
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jttkim |
I notice there's no message to be printed in case the test fails... |
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Eugen |
Custom annotation |
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vksvicky |
Is it backward compatible then? |
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Guest32878 |
Its' not |
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Eugen |
it requires java8 |
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shelajev |
is the first failure failing the chain of assertions? or are they run further even after the first fail? |
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so, older JUnits < 5 have to be re-written |
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mfolivas |
seems like they're going towards the BDD track |
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not sure about the reordering of assertion parameters too |
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mfolivas |
which begs the questions, why not use Spock? |
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McPringle |
The slides are gone, but Simon is funny… |
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McPringle |
Can U please bring the slides back? |
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ejan |
What's new in terms of data-driven tests? |
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shelajev |
McPringle, are the slides back? |
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junitmaster |
yes |
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McPringle |
No, I see the Productivity Report slide |
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shelajev |
thank you, @junitmaster |
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shelajev |
can you please refresh the page? |
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McPringle |
It's running on Apple TV. |
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McPringle |
The stream is okay, I see the guys moving in the bottom right. |
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shelajev |
oh, and by the way, this is where you can get the RebelLabs report about Java Tools: http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/java-tools-and-technologies-landscape-2016/ |
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sjmaple |
hmm interesting, YT streaming issue maybe |
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McPringle |
Ok, I'll restart the YT client |
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sjmaple |
ok |
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McPringle |
Yes, it worked. Strange because on the "old" stream I could hear you talking, too… |
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sjmaple |
weird! |
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sjmaple |
and you could see Nicolai moving? |
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McPringle |
Yes. And I could see you instead of the slides and it looked you were talking to somebody. |
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sjmaple |
:) |
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sjmaple |
any questions for Nicolai, please throw them in here |
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sjmaple |
{{ avoid :) }} |
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ejan |
What are dynamic tests good (what's their application)? |
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jttkim |
talking about files -- are there recommended practices for managing these? Where should they go in terms of directory trees? |
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ejan |
Is it fair to say dynamic tests are primarily a new way to do data-driven tests? |
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mfolivas |
one of my struggles has been with concurrency tests. Are there any enhancements to unit test these type of scenarios? |
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shelajev |
jttkim, in the resource directory perhaps |
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mxsb |
how do I handle the expected results in terms of paramterized tests? |
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shelajev |
maybe you can replicate your package structure |
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nithin |
does Junit 5 work with Java 6/7? |
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mfolivas |
"JUnit 5 requires Java 8 at runtime. However, you can still test code that has been compiled with previous versions of the JDK." |
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MJTref |
How about a dynamic test where you perform the same test against a number of different classes through reflection? For example lets say I want to guarantee that all extensions of object x pass test y. Would that be a good use of dynamic testing? |
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Guest7149 |
I guess that in this case pointTest has the asserts, rigth? |
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MJTref |
Thank you! |
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mfolivas |
Thanks Nico! |
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MJTref |
That is exactly my use case. Automating Equals and HashCode testing prior to integration deployment. |
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jttkim |
yes -- some generic way of testing consistency of equals, compareTo and hashCode would definitely be good. |
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sjmaple |
thanks for all the input everyone - real great questions |
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sjmaple |
I'm really surprised there's no support for Java 7 and less - brave move! |
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adambeign |
yay! welcome java 8 haha |
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shelajev |
didn't the java 7 EOL happen more than a year ago? |
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jarasez |
can you have multiple parameters? |
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Luigi |
how can you manage your parameters lifecycle? |
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Luigi |
eg. shutting down the server |
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MJTref |
@shelajev yeah 2015 |
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ehsanullahjan |
Extension over feature -- that's really the way to go! |
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panshulG |
do u think it will be a good idea to use parameter extension for providing mock data? |
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Luigi |
so do you have a way to reference the parameter outside the test itself? |
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Luigi |
ok, thanks :) |
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Luigi |
exactly |
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Luigi |
ok good, thanks |
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panshulG |
thanks |
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sjmaple |
final questions? |
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neer |
When would we use inner class like test case as mentioned at the start of session |
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neer |
Yes |
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neer |
Nested |
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neer |
Thanks! |
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sjmaple |
any final questions for Nicolai |
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sjmaple |
? |
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mxsb |
a word on hamcrest/assertJ support? :) |
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panshulG |
how many CI support it? |
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Eugen |
any CI that runs maven and gradle |
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Eugen |
or command line |
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panshulG |
+1 |
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PSU |
Thanks for the Penn State shout-out ... there were 14 of us here |
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PSU |
Thanks for sharing! |
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chrisharm |
Thanks |
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mxsb |
thanks everybody for this session :) |
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Guest89551 |
thx |
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agustinventura |
thanks everyone, really nice session :) |
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BrentOKC |
Thx. Great stuff. |
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neer |
Thnx :-) |
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junitmaster |
thanks |
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shelajev |
thanks eveyone! |
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shelajev |
see you next time |
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