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hello everyone! :) |
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Can this web-irc client be popped out to a new tab/... |
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AndyRose |
Hello all |
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vipr |
Hi |
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shelajev |
are we good with the video? |
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jeqo |
yeap |
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shelajev |
if the quality is poor, please use the cog icon on the youtube video to increase the quality to 720p or similar |
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shelajev |
thanks jeqo! |
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shelajev |
if you have any questions to Markus, I'll be happy to forward them! |
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sjmaple |
hey hey! :D |
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sjmaple |
wow, IloveVJUG! great handle! :) |
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jttkim |
off topic -- but I really object to these insurance practices |
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shelajev |
are they similar world wide? :) maybe you can move? Kinda like Britain did recently, took their fate into their hands! |
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sjmaple |
:P |
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shelajev |
any questions to Markus? |
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nibin |
But JAX-RS has async api support |
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nibin |
https://jersey.java.net/apidocs-javax.jax-rs/2.0.1/javax/ws/rs/container/Suspended.html |
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nibin |
https://jersey.java.net/documentation/latest/async.html |
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shelajev |
is it in the Java EE 7? or just the latest? honestly, I personally am not very much up to date with these |
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shelajev |
good question! |
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vipr |
It is part of JavaEE 7 actually, http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/7/api/javax/ws/rs/container/AsyncResponse.html |
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shelajev |
thank you! |
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Guest22524 |
Want to share, i found a free ebook about micro-services, http://www.oreilly.com/programming/free/reactive-microservices-architecture.html |
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shelajev |
thank you, Guest22524! |
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HarmeetSingh |
There is no high video quality option at mobil |
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sjmaple |
high quality on a mobile screen? :) |
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HarmeetSingh |
Yes |
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sjmaple |
Can a mobile screen take high quality? :) |
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sjmaple |
I guess YT doesn't offer that - thanks for the feedback! |
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HarmeetSingh |
Yes |
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AndyRose |
Will these slides be available for download? |
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HarmeetSingh |
This depends on internet connection |
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shelajev |
sure AndyRose! |
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sjmaple |
Did Markus just say BEERable instead of BEARable? |
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shelajev |
we'll publish a recap of the session and the slides on rebellabs.org |
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HarmeetSingh |
In india, we must specify the quality |
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vipr |
BEER ?! where ? |
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* vipr |
is quite thirsty |
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AndyRose |
Thanks |
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sjmaple |
:D |
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ReneEnriquez |
Do you think that could be a good idea adding microservices features to the JEE platform, I mean, try to add an spec for it for example |
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shelajev |
great question, there's this microprofile initiative by big Java EE players now |
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jttkim |
async and backpropagation of "pressure" -- that's an interesting combination... question is how to make upstream services slow down in ways that are "smarter" than blocking? |
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sjmaple |
that's still very young, they're actually asking for feedvack about what should go in it now... |
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Abel_Salgado_Rom |
He mentioned TomeeTribe before, maybe he was talking about this innitiative http://www.tomitribe.com/blog/2016/06/microprofile/ |
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sjmaple |
http://microprofile.io/ |
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sjmaple |
yeh, he was refering to that ^^^ |
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sjmaple |
Tomitribe, by the way :) |
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sjmaple |
The company behind TomEE |
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Abel_Salgado_Rom |
>o< srry |
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sjmaple |
don't mention it :) |
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shelajev |
how do you design a bank with eventual consistency? |
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Abel_Salgado_Rom |
Wouldn't be the first time an open project ends up being integrated as a JSR at some point |
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karstensrage |
what are his thoughts on cargo culting the netflix google etc. need for microservices vs actually being able to support microservices |
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karstensrage |
oh |
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shelajev |
good question, karstensrage! |
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shelajev |
will ask |
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karstensrage |
well he sort of just answered |
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shelajev |
I want more details :) a straight good or bad answer |
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karstensrage |
k |
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AndyRose |
Great presentation |
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jyeary |
Good presentation Markus. |
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karstensrage |
like i understand j2ee not supporting microservices cause i think very few can actually realistically do it |
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jttkim |
ok, thanks |
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RacingBean |
Nice to hear the opinion from one of the Java gurus. |
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shelajev |
thank you people, it was an amazing session! |
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karstensrage |
OpenJDK? |
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karstensrage |
i agree that Oracle is a disaster |
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pdurbin |
a disaster? how so? |
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Abel_Salgado_Rom |
I mostly agree with what he's saying, but I am hopefull for J2EE future |
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jyeary |
Rant Rant |
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jyeary |
;-) |
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jttkim |
thanks to all |
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RacingBean |
@Abel_Salgado_Rom hopefully you mean JEE. ;-) |
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pek |
awesome talk! thanks a lot!! |
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jeqo |
great talk Markus! |
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el_Viktor2 |
thanks for a nice talk everyone. |
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sjmaple |
Thanks for attending everyone and thanks to Markus for a great session! |
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karstensrage |
shelajev, i sort of agree with markus that the need is there, i just feel that its not appropriate for a lot of shops |
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karstensrage |
its like saying the need is there for basic income, but there is no way to reasonably do it (for example) |
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karstensrage |
so i understand that J2EE wont do it since there are very few that will be successful and you dont want to run the risk of platform support for something that in the majority of cases will be unsuccessful |
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shelajev |
Well, this is a bit philosophical, whether we need that technology, but I think with how easy it became to get to the scale where you need these technique, you'll see more and more shops using the microservices and finding that some technology stacks are better at enabling it than others |
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shelajev |
ok, gotta go now |
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shelajev |
thanks for the participation! see you all next time |
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shelajev |
find Markus on Twitter: @myfear |
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shelajev |
or ping me or virtualjug: @shelajev or @virtualjug! |
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shelajev |
cheers! :) |
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