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15:48 D-Spair Anyone know why the new session is not showing on the site?
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15:48 karstensrage im seeing the book club right now
15:48 D-Spair Me too
15:48 D-Spair I was expecting the Microservices session.
15:49 karstensrage yeah me too with kubernetes?
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15:49 D-Spair There it is!
15:49 D-Spair I just refreshed and it is now showing.
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15:50 shelajev hello people!
15:50 D-Spair 'lo!
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15:52 karstensrage i have it too !!!!
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15:53 zirconias hi folks
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15:53 matiiosz hey
15:54 sisko59 hi
15:54 Chetan Hi
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16:01 shelajev we're starting in a moment :)
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16:01 shelajev all good
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16:02 HarmeetSingh when will the session start?
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16:03 shelajev and we're live :)
16:03 shelajev the video should start in the moment
16:03 shelajev if you don't see the video running, please refresh the page!
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16:03 [icarus] Hi all
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16:06 shelajev you can find Ray on Twitter by: @saturnism
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16:06 IrfanAnsari can't hear
16:06 karstensrage sound  is good, is your volume up?
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16:07 shelajev IrfanAnsari, cannot hear Ray or anything in the video?
16:07 Charming Can zero turnaround do a config value updates
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16:07 brianeno sound is working great here.
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16:07 drgeb same here in Tampa FL
16:08 JaredT Hi Guys,
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16:08 HarmeetSingh vjug24 great
16:08 shelajev great, thanks. Sound problems are probably on your side then, IrfanAnsari. Try reloading the page maybe?
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16:08 drgeb VJUG 24hr awesome idea!!!
16:08 seakayone sweet vjug24!
16:08 maryg Awesome vjug24!!
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16:09 JaredT lol
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16:10 shelajev Charming, can you please elaborate what are you asking? maybe support@zeroturnaround.com will have a better answer, but I can try to help
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16:13 sjmaple seakayone, maryg, HarmeetSingh, Glad you liked the vJUG24 idea! I'm looking forward to staying up 24 hours ;o)
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16:13 shelajev you said not everyone is expected to be up 24h
16:13 shelajev I have that on video!
16:13 sjmaple except for you and I :P
16:13 shelajev that's not on the video!
16:14 HarmeetSingh i need to prepare for 24h up :P
16:14 sjmaple hehe - I won't ever ask anyone to do that, it's purely voluntary :D
16:14 HarmeetSingh haha.. :)
16:14 sjmaple HarmeetSingh: haha
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16:16 HarmeetSingh @sjmaple are you ready for caffeine :P
16:17 sjmaple sitting next to @shelajev is usually caffeine enough
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16:17 HarmeetSingh haha ... :D
16:17 shelajev not sure if that's a compliment
16:17 shelajev but I'll take it
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16:18 sjmaple if you have any questions, please put them straight into this window.
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16:21 drgeb You  mentioned something along the line that Dockerfile is self documenting and that you can run the comands in a Virtual Envonment by copy and pasting, is there any tool that can take all the insrtuctions from Docker and just run them on the machine  directly so automating the process making the Dockerfile more reusable ?
16:21 karstensrage does kubernetes require docker images?
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16:22 D-Spair karstensrage: The Master AND Slave are designed to run as Docker containers.
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16:23 D-Spair Kubernetes is an orchestration system for Docker containers.
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16:26 sjmaple drgeb: got your question, thanks - will ask in a bit :)
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16:26 shelajev billion == 10^9, right?
16:26 * drgeb thanks no worries! This presentation is awesome so far!
16:27 sjmaple some consider 10^12, maybe in U.S
16:27 * D-Spair must be old, still know standard IRC habits.
16:28 * sjmaple slaps D-Spair around a bit with a large deep sea anglerfish
16:28 sjmaple ahh, the good old /slap command! :D
16:28 D-Spair sjmaple: NICE!
16:29 D-Spair I still spend many hours per week on IRC and have done so for about 20 years.
16:29 D-Spair Which REALLY makes me feel old.
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16:31 shelajev bear metal!!!!
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16:31 shelajev sorry!
16:31 daftano D-Spair: forget about how many years (you can always pretend it's due to a senior moment), and you'll feel younger ;)
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16:32 D-Spair daftano: Yeah, I'm still young at heart and keep staying up with the latest tech. We've been using Docker at work for about 2 years already.
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16:33 jj how is load balancing handeled?
16:33 D-Spair But we have yet to make the jump to a container orchestration system, mostly due to the lack of large numbers of containers.
16:34 D-Spair jj: There are a number of ways... Some people use ha-proxy, others use external load balancers, and still others use something like Apache ZooKeeper or Consul
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16:40 mroderus are the resources declared in the job description file (such as cpu = 0.1) blocked exclusively for this pod/container? (independent if the resources are actually used)
16:40 D-Spair Ideally, if you want to load balance across multiple nodes for large scale, you will want to use some sort of API to automatically add instances to the load balancer.
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16:41 D-Spair mroderus: It's optional... You can "reserve" resources or you can "limit" resources... IF you "reserve", only that container can use those resources. If you "limit", the resources can be shared.
16:41 talldave What is the visualization tool being used?
16:41 D-Spair mroderus: https://gist.github.com/afolarin/15d12a476e40c173bf5f
16:41 D-Spair talldave: It's built-in to Kubernetes.
16:42 Rob_Brem https://github.com/saturnism/gcp-live-k8s-visualizer
16:42 Rob_Brem you can start it with kubectl proxy --www=.
16:42 Rob_Brem then it starts on port 8001
16:43 Rob_Brem on localhost:8001/static
16:43 talldave Awesome, thanks
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16:43 nikkatsa can my applications themselves make use of the loadbalancer for communicating between them, without the need of a discovery service (i.e zookeeper) ?
16:43 Rob_Brem is it right that the service/load balancer is not aware of the session if there are multiple pods. how do I handle statefull applications, configure my own load balancer to redirect the user to the same pod or doing session replication with something like hazelcast? what would you suggest?
16:44 D-Spair nikkatsa: For many things, yet.
16:44 D-Spair nikkatsa: s/yet/yes/
16:45 nikkatsa thank you
16:46 D-Spair SkyDNS is pretty cool, but I always worry about how long it can take for DNS to converge.
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16:49 dominik could you share the scripts/sample configs after the talk?
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16:53 mroderus would I define a dedicated load balancer for each of my services (for inter-service communication) or does this only make sense for services that are exposed to the outside world?
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16:59 sjmaple by the way, the replay for this session is here: http://virtualjug.com/developing-and-managing-java-based-microservices-with-kubernetes/
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17:03 D-Spair Nice presentation Ray! Thanks!
17:03 Hadi Thanks Ray
17:03 Rob_Brem really great thanks ray
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17:05 grebesche Is your visualation tool part of Kubernetes?
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17:06 Rob_Brem no its not
17:06 Rob_Brem [18:42] <Rob_Brem> https://github.com/saturnism/gcp-live-k8s-visualizer [18:42] <Rob_Brem> you can start it with kubectl proxy --www=. [18:42] <Rob_Brem> then it starts on port 8001 [18:43] <Rob_Brem> on localhost:8001/static
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17:07 kyfran02210 Is it possible to use kubernetes on AWS?
17:09 saturnism https://github.com/saturnism/spring-boot-docker
17:09 D-Spair kyfran02210: Yes, but AWS also has it's own Docker container management.
17:09 saturnism https://gcplab.me/codelabs/compute-kubernetes/index.html?index=..%2F..%2Findex#22
17:09 saturnism a lab :)
17:10 daftano cool :)
17:12 mrgrew Awesome presentation Ray, thanks so much!
17:12 seakayone Thanks Ray
17:12 seakayone Thumbs up!
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17:12 Rob_Brem thanks for the answer!
17:12 D-Spair https://github.com/pires/hazelcast-kubernetes-bootstrapper
17:12 D-Spair https://github.com/pires/hazelcast-kubernetes
17:12 Rob_Brem and thanks spair
17:12 mccania Thanks guys. Really great stuff.
17:13 drgeb Thanks Ray I loved the fluidity of the presentation giving adequate knowledge to dive into Live Demo!! Two Thumbs Up! Awesome!!
17:13 D-Spair I really want to use the kubernetes/hazelcast implementation to cluster Vert.x applications.
17:13 saturnism https://github.com/noctarius/hazelcast-kubernetes-discovery
17:13 mrgrew Very dry humor there. :-)
17:13 maryg lol
17:13 maryg Great talk!  Thanks Ray!
17:14 mroderus Thank you all!
17:14 maryg Thank you Simon and all organizers
17:14 Rob_Brem thanks for the kubernetes hazlecast plugin great
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17:15 sjmaple thanks for attending everyone! :D
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17:15 sjmaple and for all your great questions!
17:15 sjmaple particular thanks to @saturnism for a great presentation
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17:31 karstensrage hmmm
17:31 karstensrage thank you for the JUG and to satunism.... and you simon, i guess i thought kubernetes was more generic
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21:17 sjmaple np, thanks karstensrage!
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