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radcortez |
hi guys! |
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radcortez |
we are going to start soon |
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radcortez |
so you can start sending your questions |
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radcortez |
we are having a few difficulties with some hardware |
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we need to change the hangout link |
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radcortez |
so please rejoin again in a few minutes |
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radcortez |
ill tell you wheb |
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radcortez |
please refresh now! |
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sievemaker |
Hi! |
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hit play everyone! |
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if you don't see us, refresh the page and hit play again |
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sjmaple |
I had to change the feed but we should be good now |
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Arslan |
Hi guys |
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sjmaple |
hey Arslan |
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sjmaple |
this is the place to ask questions folks - please ask everything you want about Java EE in general or as part of the first 6 chapters in the book |
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sievemaker |
appreciate standards, love/ need flexibility |
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sjmaple |
can you expand, sievemaker? |
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sievemaker |
sometimes standarization stops developing proces, like in JavaSE, many people would expect features from Scala world, what happens in projects like... javaslang, but java adopts slowly. what is good and wrong in the same time. I would say... ;) Java is like Catholic church... stable, evolving slowly |
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sjmaple |
yeh, I agree - it's what enterprises love about Java, right :) |
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sievemaker |
I think that many projects use not exactly something what I would call legacy databases. even if you start the project from scratch often database is shared, and versioned separately. Have you ever work in the project when database is generated based on JPA Entities? |
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YoYo |
remember the primary objective of specifications is to allow developers to have choice among implementations |
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sjmaple |
questions questions questions please people! :) |
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sievemaker |
Is the performance of CriteriaQuery and JPQL similar/ the same? |
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sievemaker |
So your advice is rather not to use Criteria Queries? ;) |
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Sab |
Hi, this is a question about JPA : |
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Sab |
JPA is a specification of JavaEE. |
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Sab |
EclipseLink and Hibernate are 2 implementations of JPA. |
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Sab |
Does that mean that my Java code will be exactly the same if I use EclipseLink or Hibernate (maybe except some configuration files as persistence.xml) ? |
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Sab |
Is it the same for all the specifications of Java EE? |
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sjmaple |
thanks! great questions! keep them coming! :D |
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sjmaple |
love the question Sab :) |
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sievemaker |
What do you think about Querydsl vs CriteriaAPI would it maybe one day be a part of JPA Spec, maybe it will replace CriteriaAPI?! |
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Pranav |
How to choose inheritance strategy? |
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sievemaker |
:D |
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sjmaple |
moving to CDI now, for time reasons |
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sjmaple |
sorry sievemaker, Pranav! |
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sievemaker |
:) |
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Pranav |
np |
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sjmaple |
CDI questions now welcome though :D |
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Jigar |
Can you explain @IdClass and @Embeedable/@EmbeededId difference pros/corns, always puzzeld by it? |
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sievemaker |
Ilike when my container does it ;) |
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sievemaker |
my container is always so excited |
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gauravbrillls1 |
how abt mysema querydsl instead of criteria |
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sjmaple |
wow, that was quite an expressive demo |
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gauravbrillls1 |
some of these asynch and schdules have been incorporated by spring I guess |
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sievemaker |
EJB is actually in 7th chapter ;) |
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Pranav |
Spring doesnt follow Java EE spec |
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_ollie |
@Pranav: That's more wrong than right though :). |
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gauravbrillls1 |
yup but in parts some |
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gauravbrillls1 |
like jpa .. some annotations and stuff |
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gauravbrillls1 |
also cdi seems spring in spirit |
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gauravbrillls1 |
though not used cdi often |
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_ollie |
CDI is basically a broken version of the Spring DI container ;) |
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sievemaker |
Spring is just an incubator for JEE concepts ;) |
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gauravbrillls1 |
+1 ollie |
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lalwanis |
discussion |
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lalwanis |
right _ollie |
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gauravbrillls1 |
excellent explanaton of embeddedid and idclass awsome |
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gauravbrillls1 |
think will read the book .. have it on my safari acct |
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sievemaker |
I am not sure if using validation as an example for @PrePersist was a good choice as it is a field for bean validation. |
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sjmaple |
gauravbrillls1: you can get a discount with the vJUG code given in the meetup event page |
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lalwanis |
:) |
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sievemaker |
:) |
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sjmaple |
You can get the book with 25% discount from http://www.springer.com/us/book/9781430246268 by using the discount code JEE116. |
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sjmaple |
7 mins to go |
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sjmaple |
any final questions |
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Pranav |
use of @decorator |
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gauravbrillls1 |
thank @sjmaple though have it in my safari subscription but will reco to folks |
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sjmaple |
oh, I see :) |
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sjmaple |
Pranav: can you expand pls |
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sievemaker |
i bought at amazon/ kindle version |
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Pranav |
@decorator -is it related to decorator design pattern |
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lalwanis |
is CDI with no xml? |
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lalwanis |
:) |
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YoYo |
what comments can be shared regarding the merits of JavaEE web profile and projects like Apache TomEE |
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lalwanis |
Thanks guys |
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sievemaker |
great session, great book |
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sievemaker |
thx |
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gauravbrillls1 |
great discussion .. |
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Jigar |
As spring has lot of libraries like loading system properties etc, with CDI should we hand code or there are some options which dose such thing of-the-shelf. Any recommened CDI frameworks, one i know is deltaspike any more suggestions ? |
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gauravbrillls1 |
thanks all |
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