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Sood luck with the session. |
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gooooooooood morning/afternoon/evening :) |
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Good.* |
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Hello from sunny Florida |
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Hello |
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bukaj |
is stream live? |
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okay, we're starting the broadcast |
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should be live any second |
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Hello vjug team |
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hello to all members |
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hey is this the irc for the kito mann presentation ? |
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yes |
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sweet |
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hi all |
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as this will be the code heavy session, please be sure to use the small cog icon on the video to up the quality of the stream |
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is the video working fine for everybody? |
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yep |
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sjmaple |
oh yeh, one thing I forgot to mention, at the bottom right of the video, click the settings cog and set your quality to the highest quality so that you can follow the code more carefully |
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marius_filip |
Hello everyone, all I see is beautiful vJUG logo. |
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marius_filip |
Seeing ... |
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karstensrage |
hit play!!! |
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karstensrage |
or reload https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn_aKV36j30 |
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@karstenrage: thx, I've already started it, seeing it works! |
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suni |
hi simon...i miss anything or just started yar |
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sjmaple |
suni: just starting |
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suni |
hmm..thank u |
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going through intro |
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suni |
cdi means ? |
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suni |
i got cdi:context and dependency injection |
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sjmaple |
Contexts and Dependency Injection |
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yep |
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suni |
simon maximum using Javascript related flavours..compare to our jsf? what u say ...@simon |
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mamata |
display is not clear |
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mamata |
cant see clearly |
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suni |
u can change your pixel size @mamata |
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eudriscabrera |
adjust your quality setting |
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karstensrage |
mamata, click the gear icon and up the resolution to 720 |
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sjmaple |
can you expand the question, suni? |
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exactly |
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sjmaple |
any other questions to Kito, pls type them in here |
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what am i try to say compare to our "JSF" more companies using AngularJs,ReactJs,...etc..right?what's your thoughts about this |
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waiting for a break to ask :) |
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sjmaple |
my personal opinion is that Angular and HTML 5 seems to be making it's own standard |
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hmm @simon |
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pm771 |
Is Sencha ExtJS still relevant? |
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polymer is looks like javascript flavour. ? |
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suni |
not only angular ,react all other javascript..@simon |
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suni |
thank u for answering my question |
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sjmaple |
anyone played with Angular 2 much? |
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Jorg |
How do you write off-line apps here? |
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sjmaple |
@shelajev we should write an Angular post on RebelLabs :) |
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shelajev |
great idea, @sjmaple, what version of angular do you have in mind? |
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firefoxNX |
woohoo demo time! |
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sjmaple |
2 :) |
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suni |
present i am try to learn and do angular2 @simon |
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Kaykay |
Demo time! |
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Arslan |
I like the ploy on words there |
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IMO Aurelia looks more reasonable comparing to A2 |
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Arslan |
... Ploymer |
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Kaykay |
lol! Ploymer |
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zakaria |
Polymer works only on Chrome |
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karstensrage |
seems to work ok on ff too |
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Arslan |
hmm didn't Kito say that it works on Safari? |
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sjmaple |
I think so. Wouldn't suprise me, Chrome and Safari are very similar |
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suni |
it works all, except IE |
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DerekB_WI |
https://www.polymer-project.org/1.0/resources/compatibility.html |
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zakaria |
What's the advantage of Java MVC over Spring MVC ? |
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karstensrage |
no spring :) |
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zakaria |
:D |
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karstensrage |
truthfully, spring does great DI, great wrapping of cool stuff for DI |
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karstensrage |
but its notion of providing other stuff since youre using it anyway, is kind of off |
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zakaria |
could not agree more |
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suni |
so why we are calling specifically calling "Spring MVC"?any special reason for that |
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karstensrage |
i way prefer JAX-RS to Spring MVC so this is good progression |
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suni |
ho..that's it.?. @karstensrage |
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gauravbrillls |
hmm seems to be using polymer with jsp's ...seems primitive |
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BartekM |
zakaria |
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BartekM |
What's the advantage of Java MVC over Spring MVC ? |
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BartekM |
karstensrage |
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BartekM |
no spring :) |
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gauravbrillls |
cant it be more rest based and have polymner based html consuming it |
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BartekM |
It's disadvantage :) |
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gauravbrillls |
mvc 1 by the way is way to similar to Spring MVC .. |
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sjmaple |
most likely based on Spring MVC |
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sjmaple |
like Java Batch... |
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Arslan |
+1 BartekM's question |
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Arslan |
I can't see the obvious difference between Spring and Java MVC |
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sjmaple |
will ask |
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gauravbrillls |
polymer with angular would look interesting and cleaner .. need to check |
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Arslan |
ty |
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Kaykay |
+1 BartekM's question |
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suni |
in my point of view MVC is one type of design pattern, |
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gauravbrillls |
ahh iron ajax does this .. like ng services |
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gauravbrillls |
though not that cleaner .. |
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suni |
in spring mvc is more usable |
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suni |
spring mvc more used in java ee |
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sjmaple |
any final questions? |
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gauravbrillls |
nice unbiased answer |
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suni |
any github link for this jsf and polymer @simon |
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BartekM |
Would you recommend using Polymer on production ? |
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bukaj |
same happens to me :D |
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Staplerz |
what are kitos github adress? |
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karstensrage |
also spring has done a nice job of separating out functionality |
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karstensrage |
so you can skip the mvc stuff |
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AGawish |
+1 Staplerz |
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doctor-horrible |
why would I choose web components over reactJS which also provides components? |
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gauravbrillls |
or angular js |
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Staplerz |
web Components is standard |
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tocsa |
WHat's the github again? |
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sjmaple |
https://github.com/kito99 is Kito's github address |
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Staplerz |
thanks |
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Arslan |
[Q] What's the difference between Polymer and AngularJS? |
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Would you recommend using Polymer on production ? Do you consider it as production ready ? |
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Staplerz |
angular is a MVC client side framework, polymer is just a component |
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Staplerz |
like HTML5 video tag |
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eudriscabrera |
AngularJS is a full stack framework |
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Staplerz |
not full stack |
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Staplerz |
full stack includes backend |
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eudriscabrera |
thanks |
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pioneer |
do you have experience writing web components in langother than javascript? say, using polymer-gwt? if yes, do you feel it usable and mature? |
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suni |
in my point of view in future only scripting languages @simon |
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tocsa |
We don't see your screen! |
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tocsa |
What's the link? |
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Staplerz |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn_aKV36j30 |
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ng directives and polymer seems confusing but yes the part about being standard seems logically |
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https://github.com/vaadin/gwt-polymer-elements |
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tocsa |
Thx |
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sjmaple |
follow kito on twitter here http://twitter.com/kito99 |
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shelajev |
follow Simon on twitter here: http://twitter.com/sjmaple |
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doctor-horrible |
ReactJS has a very cool way of updating the dom. How could I do the same in web components? |
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what is the minimum age for that? |
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meninstein |
thnks all |
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thanks guys |
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thanks and bye |
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MikeLevin |
That was great! |
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suni |
nice talks..i learn something...thanks u all... |
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sjmaple |
thanks for joining folks! see you next time |
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replay available here - http://virtualjug.com/modern-web-apps-with-html5-web-components-polymer-and-java-ee-mvc-1-0/ |
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