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02:26 Topic for #virtualJUG is now Welcome to the Virtual JUG - http://virtualJUG.com. IRC logs can be found here -> http://irclog.greptilian.com/virtualJUG/today
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12:11 Topic for #virtualJUG is now Welcome to the Virtual JUG - http://virtualJUG.com. IRC logs can be found here -> http://irclog.greptilian.com/virtualJUG/today
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13:01 pdurbin hearing good things about javamelody - http://irclog.greptilian.com/friendlyjava/2015-07-15
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15:56 SNR_Leeds I thought this was "So why would I use a distributed database like Apache Cassandra? "
15:56 Ric Me too
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15:57 chbatey It is :)
15:57 chbatey I hope…
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15:58 SNR_Leeds Well I'd hope you know @chbatey ;)
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16:00 sjmaple hey
16:00 sjmaple just about to start...
16:00 SteveG Is this the right place for Cassandra presentation?
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16:01 chbatey yep
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16:03 shelajev hello everyone
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16:04 osama how do i get the vjug session for cassandra
16:04 osama do i need to login somewhere?
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16:05 shelajev the video should be right here: http://virtualjug.com/#live
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16:05 SteveG No sign of the video...
16:05 shelajev 1 second, we're working on getting it fixed
16:05 KotaiVictor Hmm, I'm still seeing the part 3 of the Josh Bloch one.
16:05 SteveG Me too.
16:06 shelajev yep, that's the problem. Sorry, fixing it as we speak
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16:06 ybh6336 hello, has the live session begun?
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16:06 osama i cant see anything
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16:07 sjmaple try a refresh now
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16:07 shelajev a refresh should help!
16:07 shelajev sorry :)
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16:07 znurgl I'm watching it on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3yUlwoCPzU
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16:08 osama cool i can see it now
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16:08 SteveG Yay I can now see the vJug
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16:08 sjmaple so sorry about that!
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16:09 sjmaple I updated the page in wordpress but didn't click Update!!!
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16:09 HarmeetSingh Hello to all @Vjug members
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16:10 MW Greetings all
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16:13 sjmaple hello everyone! If you have any questions, please post them in here for Chris
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16:13 sjmaple he'll be taking them at the end
16:13 HarmeetSingh great
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16:13 MW thanks
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16:16 shelajev if you have any questions, fire them right here
16:16 shelajev and Simon or I can pass them to Christopher
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16:17 sjmaple good point Oleg. I wish I'd have said that ;)
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16:24 sjmaple anyone here using cassandra already?
16:25 HarmeetSingh nope
16:25 HarmeetSingh @simon you hace experience with  cassandra ?
16:26 sjmaple no, I've always wanted to play with it as it sounds like all the kool kids use it
16:26 HarmeetSingh great
16:26 sjmaple another "never had the time"
16:26 HarmeetSingh same problem here :P
16:27 jkremser We use it in our project
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16:35 shelajev any questions so far?
16:39 sjmaple Here's the paper which Christopher is referring to http://www.allthingsdistributed.com/files/amazon-dynamo-sosp2007.pdf
16:39 foo Thanks
16:39 sjmaple if you wanted to follow Christopher on twitter, he's http://twitter.com/chbatey
16:39 Hussain Thanks
16:41 sjmaple foo: Mr Slowe?
16:41 foo No, not Mr Slowe
16:41 sjmaple ok :)
16:41 sjmaple I know another foo :D
16:42 foo :-)
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16:51 sjmaple what happens if the coordinator or remote coordinator goes down? Also, who determines which node is the coordinator?
16:52 snazy there's no "the coordinator". coordinator is just the node that executes the request - any node can be the coordinator for any query
16:53 snazy in terms of performance (less network roundtrips) the drivers prefer a replica node to execute a query.
16:53 jkremser so consistency lvl denotes how many acks does it needs to respond to the client?
16:53 sjmaple ahh ok, how does a coordinator pick which remote coordinator to use?
16:53 snazy sjmaple: same algorithm :)
16:53 snazy just in other DC
16:53 snazy jkremser: yes
16:53 sjmaple ok, how does it know of them?
16:54 sjmaple some multicast like thing?
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16:54 snazy no mc - just tcp connections. there's a (small) set of nodes in the config (= seed nodes) - these are "initial contact points"
16:55 sjmaple ahh ok, got it
16:55 snazy from these the nodes know about the other nodes (and their token-ranges)
16:55 snazy but: seed-nodes != master :)
16:55 sjmaple :)
16:55 sjmaple sounds like master with failover to me ;)
16:55 sjmaple mwahaha
16:57 snazy they're just needed on startup - after that, nodes "gossip" about the other nodes
16:57 sjmaple like sharing a live nodes table or similar I guess
16:59 snazy gossip data (on the wire) is really small. but in the end it builds a complete view of the whole cluster in every node
17:00 sjmaple I guess it has to be, as when the number of nodes scale, it will get super chatty
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17:01 snazy not really. it does only exchange some kind of diff
17:02 sjmaple Chris is just wrapping up now, any questions?
17:05 MW Can you recommend any additional literature on Cassandra?
17:06 snazy Try to start at http://www.planetcassandra.org/ - there's also a "try out VM", docs.  Looking for something specific?
17:06 sjmaple http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cassandra-High-Availability-Robbie-Strickland/dp/1783989122
17:07 snazy http://academy.datastax.com/
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17:07 MW Super. thanks :)
17:07 jeqo have you use titandb (graph database) that has been adquired by datastax? when use it instead of cassandra?
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17:08 snazy titan works on top of C*
17:10 millrossjez Book referenced by Chris Batey: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cassandra-High-Availability-Robbie-Strickland/dp/1783989122
17:11 jkremser thanks
17:11 MW Super session! Thanks!
17:11 millrossjez (forgot I'm on a 10 minute delay, sorry for duplication :))
17:11 chbatey Robbie is awesome, that book is great
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17:12 millrossjez thanks very much Chris, great session
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