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ironkutta |
hello all |
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sjmaple |
hey ironkutta |
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radcortez |
hi everyone |
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sjmaple |
will get going in about 10 mins or so |
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radcortez |
hi guys |
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radcortez |
we are looking for people to join our discussion |
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LukasE |
Roberto! Nice to see you! :) |
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radcortez |
hehe hi lukas! |
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radcortez |
missing you :P |
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radcortez |
anyway we will love to bring some of you in to the live hangout |
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LukasE |
I'm sure you are :) Won't hit the conferences until October, though |
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radcortez |
so we could use some volunteers :P |
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radcortez |
LukasE: :( |
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pm771 |
Is video up? |
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LukasE |
What do you expect a "volunteer" to do? |
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sjmaple |
will be going live in a moment |
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sjmaple |
who'd like to join us? :) |
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radcortez |
just discuss with us :P |
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HarmeetSingh |
Hello to all |
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LukasE |
How do I join!? |
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MarkAThomas |
waiting on video feed here |
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radcortez |
we will send you the link |
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LukasE |
Oh, this isn't Oliver Gierke's talk? |
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pm771 |
No video yet, right? |
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radcortez |
there is video |
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HarmeetSingh |
really excited to see @ Joshua Bloch |
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radcortez |
sec |
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ironkutta |
really excited to see joshua bloch here!!!! |
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HarmeetSingh |
the voice breaking |
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vksvicky |
all good here! |
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pm771 |
Can it get video in Chrome and IE |
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pm771 |
Can't |
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radcortez |
can you try a different browser? |
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radcortez |
guys send us your questions |
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radcortez |
and let us know if you want to join and ask the questions live |
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LukasE |
(Sorry, I didn't update my calendar. I thought this was http://www.meetup.com/virtualJUG/events/222865201/)... I didn't prepare for this one with Josh, so I won't be much help |
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radcortez |
;( |
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radcortez |
you can alway do some questions :P |
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sjmaple |
please add your general questions into the chat |
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sjmaple |
as well as question about pages 100-200ish from the book :) |
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radcortez |
Generics, Method, Enums, Annotations |
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janne_ |
Q to Josh: what constraints did you have from "higher management" for your foreach feature |
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HarmeetSingh |
In generics there is a concept of bridge method after type erasure, but in JDK 7 when we use javap commad for see byte code there is no bridge method is shown. This is improvement in javap commad or change the concept of bridge method? |
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sjmaple |
great question janne_ |
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pm771 |
Two questions about generics: |
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radcortez |
shoot |
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pm771 |
1. If you develop a brand new language with generics, would it be any reason to have type erasure? |
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pm771 |
2. What kind of errors (beyond simple gotchas) you see in developer usage of generic stuff? |
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janne_ |
Another Q: why do you think that list/map literals are still missing from java...? It can't be backwards compatibility, because foreach did get in in a backward compatible way |
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radcortez |
good questions guys |
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radcortez |
keep them coming |
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stevecstian |
Is that ok to ask question related to EJ2 builder pattern? |
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sjmaple |
sure |
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El_Sammy |
As we know Java is huge and there are many and many things to learn about Java, that is not so easy for a beginner programmer to memorize all. Josh, What do you consider it is the best way to start with Java? and where to start to be able to have the best graspe of Java? What any Java Developer need to know? Or in what topic a newbie have to be st |
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El_Sammy |
rong in order to be ready for a Java interview? |
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janne_ |
Yes! |
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janne_ |
I hate the generic signatures of the new java8 functional interface types... So hard to read |
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stevecstian |
When using builder, should we still consider static factory methods like builder() instead of constructors like Builder()? |
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sajol007 |
good to have u live boss.. |
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radcortez |
keep the questions coming guys :) |
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radcortez |
and let us know if you want to join |
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radcortez |
and tall directly to josh |
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radcortez |
and talk directly to josh |
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pm771 |
Java 8 streams. Were they created mainly for "paralelolzation"? |
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HarmeetSingh |
great question @simon |
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sajol007 |
great question |
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tiagodeoliveira |
nice one guys! |
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javaguy |
I have heard a lot about java serialization being bad... effective java also sort of supports it. Instead of using a platform neutral serialization mechanism like protobuf or any other stuff, isn't java serialization better to use for exchanging data between two java systems. Your thoughts on this. |
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janne_ |
There were this comments on the web that a very large percentage of interviewees fail the simple FizzBuzz task. Was that also your experience at Google and other places? |
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javaguy |
Your thoughts on Tuples in Java Core library? |
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HarmeetSingh |
what actual is the concept of invokedynmaic in java? |
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Maldivia |
http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/213 -- Milling Project Coin |
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stevecstian |
Awesome! Thank you guys! |
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radcortez |
any enums or annotations questions' |
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gauravbrills |
shall we use enums as singletons ? and for strategy pattern implimentationn |
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Ussain |
Now a days we have many programming languages like scala, Clojure and other jvm based languages. What are the things to consider before choosing a programming language for learning? |
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javaguy |
Thanks for asking the question... |
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Maldivia |
well, there is javafx.util.Pair now in the JDK :) |
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tiagodeoliveira |
Q: what do you think about ASM like tools, when you mess with the bytecode generated by the compiler? |
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gauravbrills |
anything coming about lambdas in the next edition if you write it |
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javaguy |
Your thoughts on changing perm gen to metaspace in Java 8? |
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radcortez |
yes josh is updating the book for java 8 |
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radcortez |
no date yet |
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HarmeetSingh |
thanks @josh for your great answer and @vijug team |
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Traivor |
The book says you should basically never use the ordinal value of an enum. If you are translating between enum and a bitfiled (like from a database column) is that a case where using the ordinal is ok? |
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Maldivia |
Q: Any regrets with regards to how enums support per-enum-value initializer blocks, causing the individual enum-values to be an instance of an anonymous sub-class of the enum-type? |
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Sovos |
So...did you find the quote by Bjarne Stroustrup? |
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sajol007 |
What could be the appropriate case to use getClass approach? though i know you prefer instanceOf approach. |
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HarmeetSingh |
Scala create inner classes for handle functional programming, there are lots of class files are created. Is, this the bad thing of Class Loader? |
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asraful |
Why should we prefer instanceOf approach rather geClass ? |
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asraful |
@sajol007 |
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radcortez |
maldivia |
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radcortez |
do you want to join the hangout? |
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radcortez |
Maldivia: :) |
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Maldivia |
well, it causes the enum type to be non-final for instance |
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asraful |
Thanks vJUg |
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asraful |
and Big Thanks to Josh |
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Sovos |
Thank you Josh! |
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HarmeetSingh |
Thanks @Vjug Team and @Joshua |
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janne_ |
Thanks Josh and vjug organizers! |
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OscarT |
Thanks all |
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El_Sammy |
Thank you vJug and Josh |
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asraful |
Great Josh. count down started |
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radcortez |
everyone thank you so much |
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radcortez |
the questions that were not asked are saved |
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mikelevin |
Thank you vJug and Josh - from sunny Florida |
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ironkutta |
thanks guys thanks vjug and thank you joshua |
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brunobat |
Thanks to all! |
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radcortez |
and we will ask them in the next session |
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HarmeetSingh |
thats greate @simon |
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sajol007 |
thanks boss..@josh... and thnx @simon .. awsome session... |
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mikelevin |
Hey that beer looks good |
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rod |
great session, thanks! |
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radcortez |
it has to be... 7 pound beer :) |
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