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hello! |
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hello Simon |
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let's hope this all works, eh ;) |
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happy hacking |
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theotown |
We've starting in just a minute |
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we're going to start very shortly... on with James at the moment - http://virtualjug.com/#live for the session |
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waiting for father of java |
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I though the mother |
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Hello from: www.linkedin.com/in/javajon |
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@simon when the meetup is start ? |
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shelajev |
and we're live |
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! |
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http://virtualjug.com/#live |
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can everyone see the video? :) |
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No |
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nope,i dont think its live |
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maxw3st |
no video, just "Please stand by" |
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nynt |
"A lot of [developers] have an amazingly weak grasp of physics. We've become a much more connected world and there's a lot more to program for than Web services." - James Gosling |
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NamanShah |
its live |
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maxw3st |
ok, there now |
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simon is on |
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is it started ? |
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folks can you hear ? |
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works just fine |
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well said by James on us not knowing much physics |
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Feeling excited to see James in the panel |
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sjmaple |
everyone on and live? |
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michel_slm |
yea |
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maxw3st |
yes. you're coming in a little fuzzy, but sound is ok |
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sjmaple |
if problems, pls refresh |
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sjmaple |
ok |
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HarmeetSingh |
yes |
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marcandreu |
connecting now |
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mgilgar |
Yes, everthing is ok |
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but James' thumbnail is blank |
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good all fine |
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YouTube gives me 503. Pity |
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sjmaple |
great - all questions can be posted directly into this chat - both about current Wave Glider project or any general Java questions too! |
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omkar_bangalore |
@simon please convey our gratitude to James Gosling... for creation of Java and Java being the source of livelihood for thousands of developers... |
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Jigs: oh no, even on refresh? |
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sjmaple |
omkar_bangalore: will do :) |
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Jigs |
Yep |
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Jigs |
Any recording going on? |
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shelajev |
yeah, the recording is on |
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Jigs |
Okay, thanks |
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shelajev |
the same hangouts / youtube integrations |
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shelajev |
the same hangouts / youtube integration |
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Jigs |
Have fun guys |
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sjmaple |
try in another browser, just in case |
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sjmaple |
here's the video James is currently showing https://vimeo.com/101470259 if you wanted to see all the frames ;) |
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sjmaple |
if anyone wanted to share the session - here's a prep'd tweet https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=%2ALIVE%2A+on+the+%40virtualJUG%3A+James+Gosling%2C+creator+of+Java%2C+discusses+Java+and+his+Wave+Glider+project.+watch+now+http%3A%2F%2Fctt.ec%2F4Xc_V%2B&source=clicktotweet&related=clicktotweet |
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joshuaw |
does the sub lead or the "surfboard", since they are just connected via a cable? |
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joshuaw |
which one is pulling the other? |
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shelajev |
sub, because it has flippers I think |
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shelajev |
so that thrusts the whole construction forward |
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shelajev |
but a good thing to figure out |
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but the surfboard is pulling up and letting down? |
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yeah, I think |
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Were Wave Gliders used in the search for either of the lost Malaysian airliners? |
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or any other disaster for that matter :) |
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will ask towards the end if he doesn't cover - good question :) |
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how long does a journey last, 1 day or like you send them on a forever kamikaze mission |
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sjmaple: nice Jaws reference :) |
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hehe, I'm not sure James got it :) |
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is software updated on the fly in the ocean or come home for updates style? |
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like a tiny patch, because data transfer is expensive? |
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What about ships? Is there some kind of mechanism for avoiding them? |
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Is James ok with all this interrupting stuff? |
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sjmaple |
yeh, I asked before whether he wanted questions at the end or during the session - he asked for during |
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If the glider uses the wave for the thrust, how does the wave get the thrust when it will be moving against the wave? |
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sjmaple |
we always ask all our speakers and respect their preference |
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Have plastics and loose lines (gyre junk) caused any mobility problems? |
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nickolay |
thanks Simon |
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I will group questions together though where I can :) |
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Was it already covered the kind of embedded computer hardware is running the devices? |
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do they ever get run over by passing ships? |
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What initially drew you to the WaveGlider project? (sorry if it was already asked) |
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for wave glider, which programming language they used, java embeded or other because its like a AI? |
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if you detect an issue with the glider that indicates possible operational failure, can you bring it back? or do you abandon it? |
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do all the wave gliders have the same sensors, or is it built with a plugin architecture? |
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sjmaple |
who's calling James? ;) |
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sjmaple |
carljokl: about to go through that |
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sjmaple |
thanks for all the questions! buffering them... :) |
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samaxes |
does Liquid Robotics make any data public? |
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HarmeetSingh |
wave gilder how manage its power ? |
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jens-melzer |
I think I did see solar panels |
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sjmaple |
yeh, I think panels |
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Kuki |
solar panels and wave power |
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from pannels how much power the glider store ? |
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IoannisM |
What sort of test methodologies do you use to test all of the possible (and less possible!) scenarios? |
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shelajev |
IoannisM, I second that |
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sjmaple |
yeh, great question |
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shelajev |
sounds like a huge amount of work :) chaosmonkey or something probably |
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IoannisM |
chaosshark more like :) |
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joshuaw |
+1 |
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Does it use IPMI for the sensor readings ? |
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shelajev |
what version of Java they use? |
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sjmaple |
1.7 |
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shelajev |
even for tests? :) |
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sjmaple |
will be migrating to 8 when possible |
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popxix |
what about security.. what mechanism it has to avoid network intruder take control of the robot.. |
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These libraries are based for javaEmbeded or JDK ? |
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popxix, that sounds like an idea :) |
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sjmaple |
should we give a heads up and ask? or try to take control of the robots? :) |
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KRetief |
at a dollar a kilobyte? |
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popxix |
interesting.. |
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popxix |
yup |
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sjmaple |
got loads of questions about the WG now :) If anyone has Java qs feel free to ask (Remember, JG doesn't work for Oracle ;) ) |
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what is WG? |
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There are so many JVM based languages now, which is the good language which actually utilize the proper power of JVM ? |
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IoannisM |
wave glider |
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pakistanJUG |
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDgQtwIwAw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DBVjnYu6aBFk&ei=WTfBVNP-HMmVas_kgLAJ&usg=AFQjCNEBfwAhbK_RZEg8-OmkHqX_21oM-w&sig2=zBtLssP0FGHJeR2S3nZtVA&bvm=bv.83829542,d.d2s |
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ecabrerar |
Good question @HarmeetSingh |
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HarmeetSingh |
Thanks @ecabrerar |
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GoldenBoyz |
the best language on the jvm is Groovy |
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HarmeetSingh |
wy? |
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HarmeetSingh |
why? |
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prasannaa |
Best Language to use JVM is JAVA |
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HarmeetSingh |
no |
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ehsavoie |
because you can choose whateveer way you prefer to code |
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shelajev |
seems like a very reactive way to build stuff |
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ehsavoie |
want staic you have it, want dynamic you have it |
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ehsavoie |
groovy is really cool |
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do they use any kind of streams? rxjava or smth |
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ehsavoie |
Does WG use some kind of OSGI container ? This feels really like it |
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shelajev |
I mean consuming data from services is the goto example for streams libraries |
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sjmaple |
ship/collision events questions about to be answered :) |
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popxix |
cool |
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prasannaa |
any code is open sourced? |
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ecabrerar |
Why did you choose TimeSys Linux over other linux distros for embedded system ? |
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IoannisM |
ecabrerar because it was the only one working with the onboard sensors |
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NamanShah |
i guess he said, its the only which had the driver needed for ARM |
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ecabrerar |
Thanks @IoannisM |
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NamanShah |
http://www.linux.com/news/embedded-mobile/mobile-linux/713411-gosling-smartens-up-floating-robot-with-linuxjava-qregulusq-os |
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jeffsheets |
Java question: How does he feel about recent Java 8 addition of Lambda's? Was there talk of including lambda/closures in earlier versions of Java? |
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Elban |
Could all this be coded in another language like Python/Ruby/C#? What are some the problems one would face? |
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nickolay |
James, what do you think about the way of Java developing now? Are there much changes in this way since the lang was created? |
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JimBethancourt |
@jeffsheets -- I remember reading a recollection about how they thought of including Lambdas in the first version of Java, but weren't sure if most programmers were ready for them |
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carljokl |
SharkException |
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ishanp |
haha.. yes carljok exactly |
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HarmeetSingh |
wave glider need to handel checked SharkException :P |
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sjmaple: does JG think that some of this logic and thinking would be useful for space travel? eithere manned or unmanned? |
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IoannisM |
haha awesome definition of debugging |
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this projecct is so complex i can't even imagine |
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carljokl |
I suspect that is why someone of James's calibre works on it |
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joshuaw |
does JG think that some of this logic and thinking would be useful for space travel? either manned or unmanned? |
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HankB |
What is the protocol to the sensors ? IPMI? |
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maxw3st |
Thank you much. Great show of the project. |
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carljokl |
I am going to have to go. Thanks for the presentation |
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maxw3st |
Yes, connected to that, has the Coast Guard shown any interest in the navigation software you've created? |
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IoannisM |
haha ouch |
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HarmeetSingh |
how wave glider JVM is perfect? |
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MadJack |
Thank goodness Obama restored all the Mars mission funding, eh? |
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samaxes |
is any of the data collected by WGs public? |
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mite_mitreski |
Maybe a stupid question but there you go : has someone stolen one of the gliders ? |
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HarmeetSingh |
The collections libraries they use, these libraries for JavaEmbeded or JavaSE? |
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Elban |
Could all this be coded in another language like Python/Ruby/C#? What are some the problems one would face? |
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ecabrerar |
Outstanding presentation. |
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javajon |
Why did you make the viewer a Swing app and not JavaFX? |
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sjmaple |
switching to Java now - questions pls |
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HarmeetSingh |
Which JVM based language used actual utilize the power of JVM ? |
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jeffsheets |
@sjmaple thanks |
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JimBethancourt |
thanks Simon :-) |
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shelajev |
Clojure! :) so happy to hear that |
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HarmeetSingh |
Thanks @simon |
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HarmeetSingh |
i am also like a clojure :) |
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jeffsheets |
how about groovy? |
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MrDeviant |
Did you ever consider a non-JVM language for this project? Maybe erlang? |
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HarmeetSingh |
Which is the concept in java the James like ? |
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prasannaa |
What does JG think (or his view) about Java User Groups ... and particular about this Virtual Java User Group |
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HarmeetSingh |
This is really amazing, whiout any doubt ? |
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HarmeetSingh |
This is really amazing, whiout any doubt ? :D |
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HarmeetSingh |
This is really amazing, whiout any doubt :D |
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nickolay |
THanks guys. The session was great. Organisation was great! |
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maxw3st |
This has been a superb session. What a treat. |
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HarmeetSingh |
Thanks to @Vjug |
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Swati |
thanks all |
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mite_mitreski |
awesome |
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marcin_kru |
thank you |
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maxw3st |
It's been an honor, and thankyou to vJUG for hosting |
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Elban |
Thank you very much guys. It was an amazing session :) |
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Swati |
its been honor |
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Swati |
thank u |
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Russel |
Thanks all involved in putting this sesion on. |
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marcin_kru |
it looks like James is passionate what he is doing |
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great session. thanks |
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HarmeetSingh |
JVM rocks :D |
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samaxes |
http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2015/01/14/language-rankings-1-15/ |
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HarmeetSingh |
great |
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HarmeetSingh |
swift of jvm sounds cool :) |
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Elban |
Who wants to join me to make swift on JVM happen? |
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HarmeetSingh |
i am with you Elban |
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Elban |
Perfect. |
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Elban: I'm interested |
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Elban |
Write me your e-mail please |
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