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00:52 prologic So... Anyone feel like building an ActivityPub based decentralised app?
01:35 pdurbin What would it do? :)
07:44 prologic pdurbin Think  Mastadon
07:44 prologic but you run your own server instance
07:44 prologic or join a friend's
07:45 prologic I'm thinking a Markdown mostly freeform experience with unrestricted post length
07:45 prologic so you can either write short notes to your followers or the public or large blog-like pieces if you wish
07:45 prologic And of course be able to follow/subscribe to other feeds that are ActivityPub compatible
11:38 pdurbin Ok, so not images or video. Words. I like words. Would it be anything like Plume? https://joinplu.me . I just heard of it yesterday. Also, I assume you're talking about a webapp.
22:13 pdurbin So my almost 10 year old's school has all the students using Google Docs. The kids have figured out that they can create docs and share them with each other as a way to chat. She has some secret stuff she wants to tell her friend. I told her that Google can still read whatever she writes and that didn't sit well with her.
22:15 pdurbin Then I told her that there's a way to keep her messages to her friend secret with something called encryption. She said, "After my soccer game, let's talk about it." I figured she'd forget about it. But then she asked about it a few hours later.
22:16 pdurbin I told her to go ahead and create the Google doc for now and not to worry about it. But I'm wondering, what's a straightforward way to show a kid how to encrypt a message?
22:18 aditsu is her name Alice? :p
22:21 aditsu you could teach her how to use something that encrypts messages (maybe end-to-end), or you could teach her about encryption
22:22 pdurbin Heh. I'm thinking something hands on.
22:25 aditsu I suppose you could start with a Caesar cipher
22:27 aditsu or a general substitution cipher
22:27 pdurbin rot13? :)
22:30 aditsu that's a particular Caesar cipher
22:31 pdurbin sure
22:32 pdurbin Not a bad suggestion as a start.
22:33 pdurbin The newish Spy Museum in NYC has an interactive exhibit on substitution ciphers.
22:33 pdurbin And a room where you avoid lasers. :)
22:34 aditsu but do you get to see Cahterine Zeta Jones's curves? :p
22:37 pdurbin not that I recall
22:37 pdurbin But what's the next step for showing a kid encryption?
22:38 pdurbin I haven't taught her the command line yet.
22:39 aditsu on a computer? I guess you could shower her how to make a zip with a password, or set a password for an office document
22:39 aditsu show* her
22:41 aditsu although.. I'm not sure how much encryption they do in office documents, it might just be a flag
22:41 pdurbin Yeah, I'm not sure.
22:41 aditsu but archives are legit encrypted
22:42 aditsu beyond that.. you'd probably want to use en encryption tool
22:42 pdurbin She's weirded out about how her big sister locked herself out of her phone and how we were able to download all her photos from Google. She was like, "Wait, Google has a copy of all my sister's photos?!?"
22:43 aditsu Google doesn't have my photos :p
22:43 pdurbin It kind of saved our skin.
22:43 pdurbin Her sister was pretty upset.
22:43 aditsu can't you unlock it with the google password?
22:43 pdurbin nope
22:44 pdurbin We had to do a factory reset.
22:44 aditsu weird
22:45 pdurbin Anyway, the point is that I'm proud of the younger one for caring about privacy.
22:45 aditsu my current phone has a microsd card :)
22:46 aditsu in case of emergency, I can just take it out and use a usb reader
22:47 pdurbin good plan
22:49 pdurbin She knows substitution ciphers from Calvin and Hobbes. She's a big fan. So I probably don't need to start there.
22:50 pdurbin https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1992/11/04
22:55 aditsu it's great that she cares about privacy; it's kinda tragic that she has to live in these times :p
22:56 pdurbin yeah
23:01 pdurbin prologic: in short, my daughter has more of a need for end to end encryption than I do, apparently. :)
23:03 aditsu have you introduced her to xkcd? :)
23:04 pdurbin No, but my wife and I tried to see him the other week. He was supposed to interview Adam Savage from Mythbusters. But he had appendicitis, they said.
23:05 pdurbin https://xkcd.com/2147/
23:07 aditsu pfft, using surgery as an excuse to miss appointments, how disgraceful
23:09 pdurbin We were a little disappointed but what can you do.
23:09 pdurbin I'm not sure how often he makes public appearances but he's just across the river from me.
23:14 pdurbin aditsu: I forget if I told you that I'm playing a little piano here and there, and having fun with it. I'm working on page one of this version of Pachelbel's Canon in D: https://musescore.com/user/185147/scores/711791
23:15 aditsu ah, it builds up very slowly
23:15 aditsu page 5 starts getting fun :)
23:16 aditsu my wife has been taking piano lessons for a couple of years
23:18 aditsu I don't think she can play this yet
23:24 pdurbin I can handle page one so I just keep playing it over and over. I'm happy to be told exactly where to put my fingers because otherwise I would have no idea. I showed my sister, who's really good at piano, at Easter and she suggested a different fingering for one part but I think my fingers are longer than hers. :)
23:26 aditsu cool
23:27 aditsu even the first page involves some stretching, jumping around and mixing white and black keys
23:28 pdurbin Sometimes I play it in an attempt to get my almost 10 year old to play her cello. Sort of a "look, Daddy practices too" I guess.
23:37 aditsu I hope it works :p
23:38 pdurbin She's switching to chorus at school next year but we signed up for another year with the private cello teacher, who's great.

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