| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 03:45 |
|
aditsu |
prologic: isn't it tied to your phone number? |
| 03:45 |
|
prologic |
So? |
| 03:56 |
|
aditsu |
so if you ever change the phone number, you may lose your account |
| 04:09 |
|
prologic |
https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007062012-New-Number-or-New-Phone#ios_new |
| 04:10 |
|
prologic |
I'm not sure 100% on the details |
| 04:10 |
|
prologic |
but it doesn't really seem like it's an "account" as such |
| 04:10 |
|
prologic |
the relevant bits of data are stored on your device(s) |
| 04:11 |
|
prologic |
your identity or data isn't tied with your "number" per se AFAICT |
| 04:12 |
|
prologic |
if I changed numbers; I'd de-register my old number, and register the new one |
| 04:12 |
|
prologic |
I suspect my contacts would have to re-verify my new identity though as I'm sure the "number" is used as part of the public key exchange verfiication process (optional but recommened) |
| 04:13 |
|
prologic |
It's not too different from having to generate a new public gpg key when your old one expires or you loose it |
| 04:16 |
|
aditsu |
also, can you use it without installing it on the phone at all? |
| 04:19 |
|
aditsu |
wikipedia says "This mandatory connection to a phone number (a feature Signal shares with Whatsapp) has been criticized as a "major issue" for privacy-conscious users who are not comfortable with giving out their private phone number, and as creating security risks that arise from the possibility of an attacker taking over a phone number" |
| 04:20 |
|
aditsu |
"Signal also requires that the primary device be an Android or iOS based smartphone with an Internet connection" |
| 04:25 |
|
prologic |
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/9kaxge/how-to-use-signal-without-giving-out-your-phone-number-a-gendered-security-issue |
| 04:25 |
|
prologic |
yeah okay so I can see what some of your concerns might be |
| 04:25 |
|
prologic |
but I don't particularly share the same concerns really myself |
| 04:26 |
|
prologic |
*nods* |
| 04:26 |
|
prologic |
I *think* there's a small compromise you have to consider for the ease of use and convenience |
| 04:38 |
|
aditsu |
for me, ease of use and convenience means installing it and using it primarily on my computer |
| 04:38 |
|
aditsu |
without touching any phone |
| 04:38 |
|
prologic |
fair enough |
| 04:39 |
|
prologic |
so you don't have a phone? |
| 04:39 |
|
prologic |
sounds like you would be happier with Tox :) |
| 04:40 |
|
aditsu |
I do, but I find it inconvenient to use for anything other than calling or answering calls |
| 04:41 |
|
aditsu |
um.. I suppose also checking the time and weather |
| 04:41 |
|
prologic |
so you're okay with your calls being in the clear? |
| 04:42 |
|
aditsu |
generally, yes |
| 04:43 |
|
prologic |
fair enough |
| 04:43 |
|
prologic |
https://utox.io/ you may want to install this then :) |
| 04:44 |
|
aditsu |
I think I may not want to :p |
| 04:48 |
|
aditsu |
I have some ideas for developing my own messenger; no encryption in the beginning |
| 04:49 |
|
prologic |
oh? |
| 04:49 |
|
prologic |
what is your opinion of Tox? and/or reluctance? |
| 04:49 |
|
prologic |
and what are your ideas if they don't utilise encryption? |
| 04:51 |
|
aditsu |
well, if it doesn't support multiple devices and offline messages, I'm not interested |
| 04:53 |
|
aditsu |
my ideal messenger would be kinda like hangouts or skype, except you could also send messages between your own devices and have more fine-grained control |
| 05:05 |
|
aditsu |
wtf, spotifywrapped.com says my browser is unsupported |
| 05:18 |
|
aditsu |
my messenger would also have a system of commands that you could send, and defining who is authorized to send each command |
| 05:18 |
|
aditsu |
(a command would run a script on the device) |
| 06:02 |
|
prologic |
doesn't sound very useable by others tbh :) |
| 06:02 |
|
prologic |
sounds complicated :) |
| 06:03 |
|
aditsu |
you wouldn't have to use any advanced feature unless you want to |
| 17:15 |
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