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15:16 pdurbin sourcefu.com expires in 11 days on November 28th and once again I'm thinking about letting it expire. And shutting down this channel. I still like the idea, a software development community with an emphasis on friendliness, transparency, and open source, but I think we could have a better brand, a better name.
15:18 pdurbin One idea I have is to relaunch on Gitter with something like "codecraft" in the name, as I wrote about at http://or8.net/pipermail/codecraft/2018-October/000249.html
15:18 pdurbin Gitter has an IRC gateway that I use all the time.
15:23 pdurbin Or I could relaunch on freenode under a new name, I suppose, but freenode doesn't seem to appreciate public logging very much. https://freenode.net/policies#public-logging starts with "If you are considering publishing channel logs, think it through."
15:24 pdurbin So Gitter seems like a better cultural fit for me. I feel more aligned with the amount of transparency Gitter promotes.
15:25 pdurbin On a related note, I proposed a talk with the title "Transparency in chat culture: Gitter vs. IRC, Slack, and the rest" for next year's LibrePlanet. "The culture of transparency Gitter brings to chat is healthy for free software. IRC, XMPP, Slack, and almost every other chat system encourage decision making behind closed doors."
15:25 pdurbin http://wiki.greptilian.com/talks/ideas/transparency-in-chat-culture-gitter-vs-irc-slack-and-the-rest/
15:27 pdurbin I'm open to other chat platforms that have a similar culture of transparency, but they're hard to find. Matrix/Riot seems like a contender but this issue I opened is a deal breaker for me: "URL for an arbitrary day of history and navigation for next and previous days" https://github.com/vector-im/riot-web/issues/7677
15:28 pdurbin We have this already in this channel, of course: http://irclog.greptilian.com/sourcefu/2018-11-17
15:30 pdurbin aditsu bear codex dotplus kzisme prologic semiosis sivoais_ tumdedum: If we swiched from freenode to Gitter (again, there's an IRC gateway I use all the time), would you come along?
15:35 aditsu if I can use my irc client to connect, and you'd like me to join, I can join
15:36 pdurbin aditsu: cool. And I'll still hang out in ##friendlyjava which is a nice place.
15:37 aditsu alright :)

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