IRC log for #sourcefu, 2017-11-19

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Time	Nick	Message
00:35	pdurbin	I wonder if I can get philbot to connect to two IRC networks at once. Right now it only connects to freenode.
00:44	prologic	oh?
00:44	prologic	what's the bot do?
00:45	prologic	Please come join the fun that is building yet another ircd and running another irc server/network :)
00:45	prologic	To connect: /server irc.mills.io +6697 and /join #lobby
01:32	pdurbin	It logs this channel (and others): https://github.com/pdurbin/philbot
01:34	prologic	sounds like https://github.com/circuits/irclogger
01:34	prologic	which logs a number of channels
01:34	prologic	http://irclogs.shortcircuit.net.au/
01:39	pdurbin	yep, both listed at http://wiki.greptilian.com/irc/logging
01:43	prologic	haha
01:43	prologic	that's hilarious
01:43	prologic	what if I write another better logger? :)
01:51	pdurbin	Would it still write to disk? Or a database?
02:01	prologic	dunno
02:07	pdurbin	I'm happy enough with how philbot works. I didn't write it but I tweaked it a bit.
02:13	pdurbin	prologic: but we should collaborate on something
02:14	prologic	as long we do it in Go :)
02:15	pdurbin	Sure, the only thing I've written in Go so far is https://github.com/pdurbin/feedcritic but I'm open to whatever.
02:24	prologic	nps
02:25	prologic	we can base it on https://github.com/prologic/soter
03:00	prologic	pdurbin if we do...
03:00	prologic	what should be different?
03:01	prologic	some things I've found in practice that might be worth solving is dealing with network instabilities
03:02	prologic	so running 3 or 5 instances of the same bot on the network across different servers would reduce the risk of suffereing netsplits
03:02	prologic	using some form of concensus to agree on the "logs"
13:13	pdurbin	prologic: I only log four channels right now and they're all quite low traffic. I'm not very worried about outages. I reboot my server ever few weeks or so for kernel updates and philbot disappears for a bit. I just tend to check if anyone is talking. If no one is talking, I go ahead and reboot. I think the logs are fairly complete.
15:18	pdurbin	The highest traffic channel I used to log just switched to Slack: http://irclog.greptilian.com/virtualJUG/2017-10-31
15:18	pdurbin	So the pressure is off, even more.
18:38	prologic	pffft
18:38	prologic	moved to slack
18:38	prologic	but why?
18:38	prologic	silly
18:38	prologic	anyway we should worry about redundancy and outages if we wanna build a better logger that combines features of both irclogger and philbot and maybe others
18:39	prologic	that's actually a common complaint of the channels/users I log for; if it goes down even for just a minute or so they notice
18:39	prologic	and they notice gaps in the logs too
18:39	prologic	also it would be nice to actually have a much better UI to view, walk and search logs
18:44	pdurbin	Ah, your users notice the gaps.
18:45	pdurbin	aditsu is one of my users :)
18:48	aditsu	snore... what? ohai :)
18:48	prologic	hehe
18:48	prologic	yeah e.g #crux and #crux-devel
18:48	prologic	not low traffic channels :)
18:49	pdurbin	It's nice that crux folks are into having their channel logged.
18:53	pdurbin	prologic: would the new bot be able to connect to multiple IRC networks? I'm thinking that maybe I should try running my own IRC network (using your code) and logging various channels in it.
18:57	prologic	yeah
18:58	prologic	it should
18:58	prologic	because why not
18:58	prologic	it's not that hard; one goroutine per connected network
18:58	prologic	I just had a crazy thought
18:58	prologic	you could run raft over privmsgs between the bots
18:58	pdurbin	Ok. I guess I need to decide if I should really run my own IRC network, though. :)
18:59	pdurbin	raft?
18:59	prologic	concensus
18:59	prologic	feel free to jump on irc.mills.io
18:59	prologic	just about to upgrade it after fixing a tonne of races and deadlocks last night
19:00	pdurbin	Are any of the channels logged?
19:01	prologic	no not atm
19:01	prologic	I don't run any logging facilities there (yet)
19:01	prologic	I may if we end up writing this bot
19:02	prologic	I'd love to stick with my greek deity naming theme and call it the whatever the god of writing is ;)
19:07	pdurbin	:)
19:14	pdurbin	prologic: isn't the botbot logger already written in Go?
19:15	prologic	I believe it is actually
19:15	prologic	don't they provide a public service over at botbot.me ?
19:15	pdurbin	yep
19:17	prologic	but so? :)
19:21	aditsu	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7iU0GGVco8
19:24	pdurbin	wow, boten anna
19:58	prologic	https://transfer.mills.io/G15gz/Screen-Shot-2017-11-19-at-11.58.31-AM.png
21:13	prologic	pdurbin so do you wanna do it? :)
21:14	prologic	I can very easily port circuits/irclogger to Go today in fact
21:14	prologic	and it'll output logs to disk compatible with irclog2html
21:14	prologic	which theory could have a Web JSON API in front of for a fancy web client
21:14	prologic	or whatever
22:02	pdurbin	Meh, I'm not sure. I don't want to squelch you though. I'd be happy for the world to have another IRC logger. I'm kind of happy enough with mine at the moment.
23:11	prologic	Squelch?

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