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IRC log for #sourcefu, 2017-07-03

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05:54 prologic And done => https://github.com/prologic/shorturl
05:54 prologic works
05:54 prologic needs a few more things but basic idea is there
06:44 prologic And also done => https://github.com/prologic/pastebin
06:44 prologic two apps in one day :D
10:17 pdurbin nice
11:58 dotplus whew, scathing post to icei. "This project you're about to embark on is huger than you think and not really necessary".
11:59 dotplus What approach/software do you think would meet their (perceived) need?
12:00 dotplus Does gitlab allow for the required "temporarily secret
12:00 dotplus " submissions/PRs?
12:59 pdurbin dotplus: are you talking about what I wrote here? [Discuss] Infrastructure software forge project - volunteers required - https://lists.icei.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-July/000014.html
14:27 dotplus pdurbin: yes
14:28 dotplus something like that probably needed to be said.
14:32 pdurbin tough love
14:33 pdurbin It sounds like for now they should be using signed git commits. And they should have a sane process for their community to responsibly report security vulnerabilities.
14:35 pdurbin It's not like the're the only ones who are worried about security.
14:36 pdurbin "Open source’s comparative advantage is in security: security is among the the most important features when using any kind of software (86% extremely or very important)." http://opensourcesurvey.org/2017/
14:54 dotplus signed commits aren't going to help if they get sent to a repo interface that is open to the public.
14:54 dotplus Oh, you mean encrypted patches? that could well be an option.
15:05 pdurbin I mean that you can trace the commit back to a developer's gpg key or whatever. It builds trust in the code base.
15:08 dotplus that's not enough from their perspective. They want to ensure that the repo manager/forge thingy can support issues/PRs that are only visible to a certain group. Triagers, as it were, to review submissions before they hit 'full disclosure'.
15:09 dotplus There's probably a way to do that with Github private orgs, but that gets expensive. I don't know whether there is a way in gitlab because I've barely used it. And I don't whether it's even possible to selfhost bitbucket.
17:31 pdurbin dotplus: "it's a security issue, not visible to regular users" -- http://transcripts.jboss.org/channel/irc.freenode.org/%23weld-dev/2014/%23weld-dev.2014-11-06.log.html#t2014-11-06T14:53:23
18:16 dotplus eh?
19:19 pdurbin dotplus: that guy uses JIRA, which supports non-public issues
21:16 dotplus sure, but ICEI is not going to use an Atlassian product...
22:33 pdurbin dotplus: oh, is JIRA not open source?
22:34 pdurbin "Proprietary" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jira_(software)
22:34 pdurbin bummer
22:34 pdurbin dotplus: are you saying there is no open source bug tracker out there that supports non-public issues?
22:40 pdurbin dotplus: "Confidential issues can be used by open source projects and companies alike to keep security vulnerabilities private or prevent surprises from leaking out." https://docs.gitlab.com/ce/user/project/issues/confidential_issues.html
22:40 pdurbin So ICEI should try GitLab, I guess. :)
22:49 pdurbin dotplus: I just suggested trying GitLab in a comment at https://docs.google.com/document/d/17dLGKeYjg9qC4fF__tM2lqA2-PVIO13CCLQx068rwzc/edit?usp=sharing
23:39 dotplus pdurbin: no, I was saying that I'm not aware of one, but that I suspected that gitlab would be the obvious candidate to check out.
23:39 pdurbin done!
23:39 dotplus and that their eval didn't seem to include one.
23:39 dotplus good job.
23:40 pdurbin heh
23:40 pdurbin next!
23:40 dotplus btw, they have #icei if you want.
23:40 pdurbin death to "not invented here" https://botbot.me/freenode/opensourcedesign/msg/88054777/
23:41 pdurbin dotplus: meh, I'm aware of #icei but I prefer channels that have public logs, like the ones I list at http://wiki.greptilian.com/haunts
23:42 dotplus fair enough. not like you don't have enough distractions anyway:) I could no way keep up with half of what you appear to pay attention to.
23:43 dotplus I thought I remember that #icei has public logs, but I guess you checked and my memory is just faulty. wouldn't be unusual:)
23:44 pdurbin heh, I'm actually only in 15 channels at the moment. And they're all usually pretty quiet.
23:45 pdurbin dotplus: "It's not logged publicly, but I don't consider that a walled garden." -- https://irclogs.jackgrigg.com/irc.freenode.net/openhatch/2017-07-02#i_4149244
23:52 pdurbin dotplus: did you hear about ICEI from me? I'm guessing so based on http://irclog.greptilian.com/sourcefu/2016-12-06#i_194463
23:53 dotplus quite likely, not sure.

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