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Nick |
Message |
| 01:04 |
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dotplus |
argh, finally got around to looking at that Hightower talk which bear posted and I get a black rectangle where the video should be, in both chrome & firefox:( |
| 01:12 |
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pdurbin |
huh, worked on both mac and linux for me |
| 01:27 |
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dotplus |
hm, appears to be working on android/chrome. yeesh. I thought websites were supposed to be multiplatform. |
| 01:35 |
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pdurbin |
supposed to be |
| 01:46 |
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dotplus |
limegreen on purple? what were they thinking? |
| 02:03 |
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pdurbin |
heh, I had the same thought |
| 02:06 |
|
dotplus |
"hacking on infrastructure is a waste of time". ah, well. Only if you (Application Developers) have magic fairies who are going to make your code run (well!) and get it to your customers. Until such time, I'll continue "hacking on infrastructure" all the way to the bank:) |
| 02:07 |
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dotplus |
well, once I'm gainfully employed again... |
| 02:08 |
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dotplus |
(1 offer received, 2 more promised and in the later stages of interview with 3 others) |
| 02:18 |
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pdurbin |
dotplus: well, clearly someone is hacking on the infrastructure he's using :) |
| 02:19 |
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pdurbin |
He apparently just doesn't want developers attempting to solve the same problems over and over and badly. :) |
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| 15:02 |
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dotplus |
yeah, absolutely, someone is - I've been called for onsite interview to be one of those people:) He was just being flippant about it, because he was talking to the audience who were mostly developers. |
| 15:03 |
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pdurbin |
yeah, the audience seems to be devs |
| 15:06 |
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dotplus |
so taking it more seriously, I'll interpret his remark as "If you're a dev (tasked with _Product_ engineering), then your org should enable you to focus on product eng and allow the people who are responsible for infra and making the product fly to do so." |
| 15:06 |
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dotplus |
in which case I agree. |
| 15:06 |
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pdurbin |
yeah, me too |
| 15:09 |
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dotplus |
btw, protocol buffers seems like it could be good, but a quick glance at the docs suggests that there's plenty of room for improvement in the area of "ease of use", but if the ease-of-use factor is not dominant, then it could well be a valid choice. |
| 15:55 |
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dotplus |
He's using simple, descriptive language to say "k8s is declarative, traditional CM is imperative but pretending to be declarative". Which is very funny considering his previous life as a Puppetlabs employee (evangelist?). Where he was telling everyone how awesome Puppet (and CM, general) was compared to old-school shell scripts (partly) _because_ it was declarative not imperative. |
| 15:58 |
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dotplus |
anyway, I'm really glad to see this sort of thing - I've been in favour of declarative (for infra/apps _Ops_, at least) ever since I understood the distinction, so the more traction it gets, the better IMO. |
| 16:38 |
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pdurbin |
oh, I didn't know he worked for puppet |
