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17:06 aditsu semiosis: hi there, can I ask you a different javafx question? :)
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17:12 semiosis dont ask to ask, just ask :)
17:13 aditsu heh, ok :) http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33131235/javafx-gridpane-column-sizing
17:19 semiosis i struggle with ui layouts too
17:21 aditsu I thought I read about a way to do layout using html, but I can't find it anymore... or maybe it was not for JavaFX
17:23 aditsu anyway, I used to do all sorts of complicated layouts in Swing (often using a 3rd party layout manager)
17:24 aditsu but with JavaFX, I have to start over :p
17:32 semiosis imho building a UI with FXML+CSS is way easier than doing it programmatically in Java
17:33 semiosis oracle used to provide the JavaFX Scenebuilder, but they've stopped releasing that.  Now it's maintained by Gluon, get it here: http://gluonhq.com/open-source/scene-builder/
17:34 semiosis that is the de facto JavaFX WYSIWYG editor
17:34 aditsu do you think it can build the layout I want?
17:35 aditsu I read there's also an eclipse plugin - http://www.eclipse.org/efxclipse/index.html
17:35 semiosis dunno but in any case it should be easier to experiment with than java code
17:36 semiosis eclipse, bleh.  intelliJ all the way!
17:38 aditsu heh, I don't think I tried it for more than 5 min
17:39 aditsu hm, the page that mentioned efxclipse actually talks about Scene Builder for the GUI part
17:44 aditsu it looks quite nice, now let's see how to change things...
17:47 aditsu I managed to reproduce the problem with it :p
17:50 aditsu semiosis: can you get it to work correctly?
17:55 aditsu with certain settings, the 2nd spinner shrinks but not the 1st one, it's so weird
17:56 aditsu (they have identical settings, of course)
18:00 aditsu I think Scene Builder is also reproducing my other problem, I can see some junk characters in the menus :p
18:01 aditsu I'm guessing it's trying to render an ellipsis
18:01 aditsu (although that's in the basic plane)
18:08 aditsu https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8133106
18:16 aditsu it seems that JavaFX is too buggy to use (and you gave up on helping me)
18:19 pdurbin too buggy to use?
18:20 aditsu yeah, I just wrote a few simple things so far and already hit a couple of serious bugs
18:20 pdurbin gotcha
18:21 aditsu unless I'm doing something wrong.. but I can't find any indication of that
18:24 aditsu maybe it will become stable in a few years :p
18:27 pdurbin :)
18:38 aditsu I answered my own question
18:39 * pdurbin looks at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33131235/javafx-gridpane-column-sizing
18:55 aditsu haha, I can use Swing spinners (JSpinner) via SwingNode, they resize perfectly :p
18:56 aditsu but dealing with the right threads is another can of worms
18:56 semiosis nice!
18:56 semiosis i rather liked javafx's threading support
18:56 semiosis Platform.runLater(all the things);
18:57 aditsu that's just like SwingUtilities.invokeLater... except it's a different thread
18:57 semiosis i skipped awt & swing entirely, just started java ui with javafx
18:58 aditsu I like the Task class in JavaFX
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21:37 pdurbin_m Neckbeard Hacker on Twitter: "If by "container" you mean emacs...yes, I deploy and run my app inside a container.": https://mobile.twitter.com/NeckbeardHacker/status/654410350696206340

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