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IRC log for #sourcefu, 2015-07-30

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00:04 pdurbin oh. no aditsu. I wanted to see if he's heard of the PushCacheFilter feature of jetty
00:04 pdurbin "Some of these requests contain the HTTP Referer header that points to a resource that has been requested previously." http://www.eclipse.org/jetty/documentation/current/http2-configuring-push.html
00:04 pdurbin heard about it at http://ttlpodcast.com/episodes/ilya-grigorik.html
00:29 pdurbin basically, jetty learns which files are often downloaded in sequence and serves them up more efficiently. pretty neat
00:55 prologic sorry just cathing up
00:55 prologic at work now
00:55 prologic the thing is
00:55 prologic if even the most expericned can't work out the boundaries at first
00:55 prologic then they don't understand the problem they're trying to solve
00:55 prologic it's just that simple
00:55 prologic once you *understand* the problem
00:55 prologic you can start to thin kabout writing tools/programs/libraires that do one thing well
00:55 prologic that are small and beautiful
00:56 prologic that interface well with the next "thing" or existing "things"
00:56 prologic we far too often fall into the trap of "just hacking something out"
00:56 prologic and not fully understanding the problem
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01:12 pdurbin_m prologic: yeah, makes sense
01:12 pdurbin_m aditsu: jetty thing: http://irclog.greptilian.com/sourcefu/2015-07-30#i_130616
01:12 prologic well once you understand a problem fully
01:13 prologic it's easy to see the boundaries right?
01:13 pdurbin_m yeah
01:13 prologic and write a program/library or two that interface well with each other
01:13 prologic microservices is IHMO just a buzz words of more recent times
01:13 prologic it's not strictly about web programming
01:13 prologic but a much older concept
01:14 pdurbin_m well, Netflix has a ton over services
01:14 pdurbin_m of*
01:14 prologic they do
01:14 prologic and that's a good thing
01:14 prologic but generally if you do it right
01:14 prologic these microservices are in fact themselves small little programs
01:14 prologic that do one thing well
01:15 prologic and you can compose things together in more ways than you can imagine
01:15 prologic because the smaller the pieces, they better they fit together
01:17 pdurbin_m "more than about 1200 or so services in our production environment" http://www.talkpythontome.com/episodes/transcript/16/python-at-netflix
01:17 pdurbin_m seems kinda new
01:19 pdurbin_m to have so many
01:21 pdurbin_m so I showed my django guy https://github.com/pdurbin/addressbookmvc/tree/master/examples/django today
01:21 pdurbin_m hopefully he'll help me clean it up
01:22 pdurbin_m definitely a shallower learning curve than java ee and jsf
01:23 pdurbin_m I just followed the tutorial, more or less
01:27 aditsu pdurbin_m: hi, I haven't heard of PushCacheFilter
01:29 pdurbin_m aditsu: I'm pretty sure it's new. it's an HTTP 2 thing
01:32 prologic pdurbin_m, ahh you're liking Python and DJango eh? :)
01:32 prologic also re "seems kinda new"
01:32 prologic not really
01:32 prologic thin about a typical UNIX / Linux system
01:33 prologic there are quite literally hundreds (if not thousands) of well defined small programs that interface well with other programs
01:33 prologic ala microservices
01:33 prologic IHMO what some of us have leanred to do so well back in the early days (I wasn't a part of it until the 90's) has progressed to the web
01:33 prologic which is good to see
01:36 pdurbin_m new that it's over HTTP now
01:46 pdurbin hmm, doesn't look so good in the email archive: [codecraft] 1200 microservices at Netflix - http://or8.net/pipermail/codecraft/2015-July/000026.html :(
09:29 prologic sorry what?
09:29 prologic what's new?
10:11 pdurbin nothing, I was just surprised that the link I tried to sent to codecraft appeared four times in the archives. sigh
10:11 pdurbin send*
10:14 prologic oh
10:14 prologic :)
10:21 pdurbin prologic: the email server *you* just wrote won't do that :)
10:24 prologic haha
10:24 prologic I sure hope not
10:45 pdurbin it would be nice to dogfood the think you and dotplus are building: https://github.com/openknot
10:45 pdurbin thing*
11:02 prologic dogfood?
11:03 pdurbin searchbot: lucky dogfooding
11:03 searchbot pdurbin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_food
11:04 prologic I know what the term means
11:04 prologic but missing some context?
11:05 prologic I'm not sure what we're meant to be "dogfooding"? :)
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11:37 pdurbin openknot, some day
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13:00 dotplus ha. I think it unlikely you'll actually want to *look* at anything in the first iteration of archive presentation if I build it. It will probably be plain text:)
13:04 pdurbin :)
17:15 pdurbin prologic: docker got a "we wish" comment at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GLky44JbtCNhGuavLXGEP8WPNdjbyHNxalEGjR78MaA/edit?usp=sharing :)
22:58 prologic nice :)
22:58 prologic that'll make things easier
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23:47 pdurbin prologic: https://github.com/bencomp/dataverse-docker

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