IRC log for #sourcefu, 2015-04-14

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Time	Nick	Message
01:16	pdurbin	the answer to this is "yes" apparently: Is there already a TodoMVC for back end (server-side) technologies? · Issue #1 · pdurbin/addressbookmvc - https://github.com/pdurbin/addressbookmvc/issues/1
01:16	prologic	hey pdurbin
01:16	pdurbin	in a comment I linked to https://github.com/kouphax/todomvc-server and https://github.com/frameworktodo
01:16	prologic	I'm almost done with my AddressBookMVC example for circuits (Python)
01:17	prologic	just finishing off the UI (hardest part for me!)
01:17	pdurbin	prologic: cool. despite finding those I'm gonna merge your stuff anyway
01:17	prologic	been flat strapped with lots of other things and a small 4-day Easter break with teh family
01:17	pdurbin	aditsu: and your stuff. just let me know when
01:17	prologic	well
01:17	prologic	if you "merge" my example proper
01:17	prologic	then I'll stop "force pushing"
01:18	prologic	and send your PR(s) for the rest of the things I need to do :)
01:18	pdurbin	eh? why would you force push to your own repo?
01:18	pdurbin	we'll get all the code in one place somehow. don't worry
01:19	prologic	hehe
01:19	prologic	I sometimes do I guess
01:19	prologic	I'm still torn between clean commits vs commit everything
01:19	prologic	i.e: squashing vs. non-squashing
01:19	prologic	I've always believed in the later
01:19	prologic	but I think it's a matter of personal taste
01:20	pdurbin	I like little commits. progress along the way
01:20	prologic	squashing makes it hard to then later bisect a source tree for bugs and identify an exact revision or change that introduced the defect
01:20	prologic	me too
01:20	prologic	:)
01:20	pdurbin	and speaking of UIs I just threw up a little in my mouth playing with the Android app I made
01:21	pdurbin	but it's useful! I'm finding stuff I didn't know existed
01:22	pdurbin	now that I can point it at production: http://datascience.iq.harvard.edu/blog/dataverse-40-here
01:22	pdurbin	which is to say, we shipped
01:22	pdurbin	:)
01:34	prologic	nice
01:34	prologic	yeah I find UI(s) in general to be one of the hardest things to "get right"
01:34	prologic	it's far too subjective :)
01:34	prologic	and I suck at it :)
01:59	pdurbin	it's something I'd like to get better at
01:59	pdurbin	I don't know what a nice framework is for building GUIs.
02:00	pdurbin	so far I've used JSF and Android
02:10	pdurbin	I guess I hacked on a GTK app a few years ago but I didn't know what the f I was doing.
02:10	pdurbin	have hacked together little PHP apps
02:18	prologic	yeah
02:18	prologic	I've done a few Delphi desktop apps
02:19	prologic	hacked on a GTK app or two
02:19	prologic	since those days it's all been Web UI stuff
02:19	prologic	but I tend to avoid it as much as possible and go for those "backend/engineer" roles :)
02:21	prologic	I tbqh think the best UI framework these days is Twitter BOotstrap
02:21	prologic	I haven't really come across anything "better" or "simpler" (yet)
02:21	prologic	oh Java Swing was "okay" back in my Uni days :)
02:21	prologic	haha
02:21	pdurbin	we use bootstrap with JSF
02:21	prologic	ahh yeap
02:21	pdurbin	but I think of it mostly as css
03:02	prologic	yeah
03:03	prologic	https://github.com/chriskiehl/Gooey
03:03	prologic	This I find interesting for a number of reasons
03:04	prologic	but in general I'd really love it if we could define User Interfaces programatically in a consistent way like we do with CLI(s) and API(s)
10:34	pdurbin	huh. that is interesting
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15:35	semiosis	pdurbin: javafx!
15:35	semiosis	pdurbin: that's for desktop GUIs at least
16:17	pdurbin	semiosis: yeah? that good?
20:37	pdurbin	maybe I should keep hacking on 2048 then
23:40	prologic	Java vs. Python: http://slott-softwarearchitect.blogspot.com.au/2015/04/java-vs-python.html referencing http://blogs.perceptionsystem.com/infographic/java-vs-python-programming-lang...
23:41	prologic	http://blogs.perceptionsystem.com/infographic/java-vs-python-programming-language-productive

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