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IRC log for #sourcefu, 2014-11-22

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12:47 prologic here :)
14:34 pdurbin prologic: hi! you want to talk node.js vs. erlang now?!? I thought you were going to bed: http://irclogs.shortcircuit.net.au/%23circuits/2014-11-22.log.html
14:35 prologic I am :)
14:35 prologic thought I'd join anyway and hang about
14:35 prologic :P
14:35 prologic g'night :)
14:36 pdurbin 'night!
21:37 pdurbin "this Goetz talk is awesome, and gets me excited for value types" http://logs.lazybot.org/irc.freenode.net/%23clojure/2014-11-22.txt
21:37 pdurbin Brian Goetz - Stewardship: the Sobering Parts - YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADUrGfINXdI
21:37 pdurbin 'he ended with "allowing tail recursion in the vm is on the radar, is not a priority but it will happen"'
22:22 pdurbin prologic: so at http://mostlyerlang.com the hosts say Erlang is better than node.js for concurrency because the latter results in spaghetti code of callbacks. That's my understanding anyway, having never used either. :)
22:25 prologic That's precisely correct
22:25 prologic it gets a little bit better with Promises
22:25 prologic But you still end up with giant promise chains
22:25 prologic so it's often no better
22:25 prologic But my point was really more on the side of the semantics of JS itself
22:26 prologic JS was never designed to be a real general purpose language; let alone used in serious applications like web application backends
22:26 prologic https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat
22:27 pdurbin prologic: right, it was designed for people who write HTML to add a little dynamic stuff here and there
22:28 pdurbin not millions of lines of code
22:30 pdurbin prologic: but obviously you're into non-blocking, what with http://circuitsframework.com and all
22:30 prologic precisely
22:30 prologic to be precise
22:30 prologic event-driven and components
22:31 prologic circuits Async I/O are comprised of components and events
22:31 pdurbin any take on Rx?
22:31 prologic Rx?
22:31 pdurbin https://github.com/Reactive-Extensions
22:32 * prologic reads
22:32 pdurbin https://github.com/ReactiveX
22:32 pdurbin https://github.com/ReactiveX/RxPY
22:32 prologic is this MS's take on Reactive Programming for JS?
22:33 pdurbin RxPY ^^
22:34 pdurbin The Netflix Tech Blog: Reactive Programming in the Netflix API with RxJava - http://techblog.netflix.com/2013/02/rxjava-netflix-api.html
22:34 prologic hmm
22:34 prologic interesting
22:35 prologic yeah I dunno
22:35 prologic all this Reactive Programming craze is not new to me
22:35 prologic circuits sits a bit lower down in the stack so to speak
22:35 prologic I've been meaning to write some reactive Programming style components
22:36 prologic but the use-case has never been strong enough :)
23:27 pdurbin most people aren't at the scale of Netflix :)
23:28 pdurbin I've gone to talks to years in a row by the author of that blog post. It's good stuff.
23:28 pdurbin prologic: I'm sure you could program in that style with circuits. It's all about Observable, I guess.

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