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16:12 aditsu joined #sourcefu
16:12 aditsu pdurbin: hi
16:16 pdurbin aditsu: what's new?
16:17 aditsu I told you a while ago that I reported a java but, and you wanted to see the link
16:17 pdurbin bug*. yes
16:17 aditsu yeah bug, sorry ^^
16:18 aditsu apparently the bug id they gave me is not valid, I just noticed that the bug was actually added with a different id
16:18 aditsu http://bugs.java.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=8029882
16:19 pdurbin JDK-8029882 : jhat sometimes hides soft references
16:19 pdurbin cool
16:20 aditsu it also has a very terse response: Incomplete output, rare cases, use MAT instead
16:25 pdurbin aditsu: the orginal bug number was non-public, right? I don't think I could view it
16:25 aditsu it was 9008722
16:25 aditsu still doesn't work
16:26 aditsu pdurbin: oh, and I kinda resurrected my faceted classification/search project, but with a simplified feature set
16:30 aditsu I'd give you a link to the app running on my laptop, but it would be recorded in the logs :p
16:30 aditsu maybe I can set up a temporary dns host..
16:35 aditsu pdurbin: ok here you go: http://doctmp.aditsu.net:8082/
16:39 pdurbin right. "This bug is not available."
16:40 pdurbin aditsu: cool. speaking of facets and search, can you please look through this a bit and tell me what you think? https://trello.com/c/5z5PpR4r/50-design-solr-document-level-security-filter-solution
16:41 aditsu my first thought is "I'm not using Solr" :)
16:46 aditsu pdurbin: Option 2 looks nice
16:48 aditsu I don't understand most of the details listed in other options
16:49 aditsu but I wonder how option 4 can scale to many users
16:50 aditsu so what do you think about my little document system? :)
16:51 pdurbin aditsu: yeah, at first I was thinking option 2 since that blog post is written by one of the main solr/lucene guys
16:51 pdurbin it sounds like we'd like to explore option 4 a bit first though
16:52 pdurbin aditsu: seems fine. this is my documentation system: http://wiki.greptilian.com
16:53 pdurbin grep -r of the git repo to search it. or ctrl-f at http://wiki.greptilian.com/sitemap
16:53 aditsu umm.. document system != documentation system
16:56 pdurbin aditsu: you don't like my system? ;)
16:58 aditsu well, it could look nicer but I guess it's fine, it's just a completely different kind of thing
16:58 aditsu it has nothing to do with facets
16:59 aditsu and from the outside, it just looks like a static site
17:02 pdurbin true. no facets. it does have a tagging system I don't uses though. and yes, it looks like a static site because it is. when i do a `git push` ikiwiki generates the html
17:03 pdurbin aditsu: the place where I'm thinking of using facets is for a new music playing (piano sheet music) site I'd like to build based on the lilypond files I've been working on: http://git.greptilian.com/?p=musichacks.git
17:04 pdurbin the idea is that you'd have facets for key signature, time signature, difficulty level, etc.
17:06 pdurbin my plan is to use the lilypond files to create PDFs and PNGs of the sheet music as well as midi files, which I'll convert into MP3s
17:06 aditsu do you play piano?
17:06 pdurbin a little. my kids are learning
17:06 pdurbin a little guitar too
17:06 aditsu me too :)
17:07 aditsu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjarAQnSjyM
17:07 pdurbin aditsu: go run `lilypond` on this, listen to the midi, and look at the pdf of sheet music. it's amazing: http://www.mutopiaproject.org/ftp/JoplinS/maple/maple.ly
17:07 pdurbin via Maple Leaf Rag, by S. Joplin (1868–1917) - http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=23
17:08 pdurbin aditsu: um. yeah, you're *way* better at piano than I am
17:09 * pdurbin claps
17:09 pdurbin very, very nice
17:10 pdurbin the thing that's neat about lilypond for me is that I can write down and listen to music that's beyond my ability to play. it gives me something to strive for
17:11 aditsu thank you :) there's always an 8 year old kid who can do it better ^^
17:11 aditsu I gotta install lilypond first
17:12 aditsu ugh.. Total: 16 packages (16 new), Size of downloads: 166,974 kB
17:13 pdurbin it's worth it :)
17:14 aditsu I heard the Maple Leaf Rag many times before, haven't learned it yet on the piano
17:15 aditsu I used to write music using "trackers" in the DOS days
17:15 aditsu with sound samples
17:15 pdurbin I need to be caught in Groundhog Day for a while to learn piano better, like Bill Murray
17:16 aditsu hahaha
17:16 pdurbin I only recently learned that that movie was written by "Venkman" (sp?) from Ghostbusters
17:17 aditsu I'm trying to learn some Chopin etudes, they are a bitch
17:17 pdurbin oh, wait, not venkman
17:17 pdurbin egon spengler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Ramis
17:18 pdurbin aditsu: I don't know what a tracker is
17:18 aditsu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_tracker
17:19 aditsu I think the most advanced one I used was "Impulse Tracker"
17:20 pdurbin huh. I haven't heard of any of these (OpenMPT, etc.)
17:20 pdurbin anyway, I gotta pack. flight soon
17:20 aditsu oh, where are you going?
17:20 pdurbin colorado
17:21 pdurbin skay: you're in charge of #dvn next week :)
17:21 aditsu cool, talk some other time then, have a good trip
17:21 pdurbin thanks
17:27 aditsu btw Chopin probably invented ragtime - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKeley78hM4
17:33 skay pdurbin: woohoo, wait, wut

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