Time |
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Nick |
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01:07 |
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pdurbin |
westmaas_: any coding these days? |
01:31 |
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01:55 |
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semiosis |
pdurbin: i'm a WHAT, bro? |
02:07 |
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westmaas_ |
pdurbin: no :( just sql queries |
02:22 |
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westmaas_ |
pdurbin: you? |
02:25 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: a good egg :) |
02:26 |
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pdurbin |
westmaas_: sure. plenty of java. a bit of python, ruby, and perl, I guess |
02:26 |
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* semiosis |
is large, contains multitudes |
02:27 |
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pdurbin |
:) |
02:27 |
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pdurbin |
westmaas_: we need to get you into a side project or somethin' |
02:27 |
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westmaas_ |
pdurbin: yeah |
02:28 |
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westmaas_ |
I need time |
02:28 |
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pdurbin |
westmaas_: how about some clojure, you little schemer |
02:28 |
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westmaas |
haha |
02:28 |
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semiosis |
pdurbin: you love irc log links... here's one: https://botbot.me/freenode/gluster/msg/10704221/ |
02:28 |
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semiosis |
lol |
02:28 |
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westmaas |
maybe...I keep thinking about ideas i have, and then never do them |
02:29 |
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semiosis |
westmaas: for example...? |
02:30 |
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* westmaas |
shows himself out |
02:30 |
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westmaas |
(i really was just leaving!) |
02:30 |
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semiosis |
ha ok, until next time |
02:30 |
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westmaas |
:) |
02:31 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: sure, people need storage for their scientific data |
02:31 |
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pdurbin |
westmaas: don't want to tell us your startup ideas? ;) |
02:31 |
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semiosis |
and people need stickers too, apparently (those things are a hit!) |
02:32 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: I threw together some ugly ruby here and check the results every morning: http://tmp.greptilian.com/tmp/feedhistory/ |
02:33 |
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pdurbin |
I just wanted a beter way to keep track of the podcasts I listen to (or may listen to) |
02:33 |
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pdurbin |
better* |
02:33 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: my kids love stickers |
02:34 |
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semiosis |
new ruby feature: autodurbinvivication |
02:35 |
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semiosis |
pdurbin: apache dirindex. what am I looking at? |
02:37 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: heh. don't worry about it |
02:37 |
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semiosis |
pdurbin: about what? |
02:37 |
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* semiosis |
just realized... |
02:38 |
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semiosis |
this is the most action this channel has seen in weeks (months?) |
02:38 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: this is the final output I care about (new and recent podcast episodes): http://tmp.greptilian.com/tmp/feedhistory/out.html |
02:38 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: yeah, I lured skay in here |
02:39 |
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semiosis |
kinda like luring someone into a dark alley lol |
02:39 |
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semiosis |
but srsly |
02:39 |
|
* semiosis |
<3 #sourcefu |
02:39 |
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pdurbin |
skay: oh, I'm reminded that Douglas Crockford was on Hanselminutes recently talking about how he never anticipated the size of JSON payloads people see these days. Like you were seeing |
02:40 |
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pdurbin |
there was some bug in the parser he had to fix or something |
02:40 |
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semiosis |
hey wait a second.... you wrote ruby to keep track of podcasts??? isn't that what RSS readers are for? podcasts are feeds. |
02:40 |
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pdurbin |
this was the episode, a good listen: http://www.hanselminutes.com/396/bugs-considered-harmful-with-douglas-crockford |
02:41 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: I wasn't happy with the available RSS readers |
02:41 |
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semiosis |
in other news... i'm about to write (or have one of my guys write) a json to rss converter. size of input json is my main concern |
02:41 |
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pdurbin |
huh, there's a transcript but it's jibberish on linux: http://s3.amazonaws.com/hanselminutes/hanselminutes_0396.pdf |
02:41 |
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semiosis |
pdurbin: tell me more about how you accosted crockford? ;) |
02:42 |
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semiosis |
sounds interesting |
02:42 |
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pdurbin |
accosted? :) I just listened to that episode. sorry if I typed something wrong |
02:42 |
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semiosis |
gibberish? what pdf viewer? looks fine to me in Okular |
02:42 |
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pdurbin |
buh. whatever fedora 20 ships |
02:43 |
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semiosis |
said it before, sayin it again, you should use kde (you really should use kubuntu) |
02:43 |
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semiosis |
tho you can probably install okular on fedora/gnome (even windows) |
02:43 |
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pdurbin |
holy kde dependencies |
02:43 |
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semiosis |
hahahaha |
02:43 |
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semiosis |
what page is your thing on? |
02:44 |
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semiosis |
oh nevr mind |
02:44 |
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semiosis |
you wouldnt know, sorry |
02:45 |
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semiosis |
pdurbin: you could upload the pdf into google drive |
02:46 |
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* semiosis |
too tired to read the whole pdf (8 pg) |
02:46 |
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semiosis |
only saw back & forth between hanselman & crockford skimming the doc |
02:46 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: page 3 (opens fine on my wife's imac) about the json library in java he wrote |
02:46 |
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semiosis |
ooh |
02:47 |
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semiosis |
wife should use kubuntu too, on the mac |
02:47 |
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semiosis |
just sayin |
02:47 |
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pdurbin |
"at the time, I couldn’t imagine anyone would ever have a text bigger than 2 gigabytes" |
02:48 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: a buddy of mine had his poor wife on netbsd for a while |
02:48 |
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semiosis |
found it, thx |
02:48 |
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semiosis |
lmao! that's love! |
02:48 |
|
sivoais |
the transcript is readable with pdftotext :-) |
02:48 |
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pdurbin |
love of netbsd anyway |
02:49 |
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semiosis |
pdurbin: we are not alone :O |
02:49 |
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* semiosis |
waves to sivoais o/ |
02:49 |
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sivoais |
hello! o/ |
02:49 |
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pdurbin |
sivoais: ah. thanks |
02:50 |
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pdurbin |
sivoais: I have a secret project you might be interested in |
02:50 |
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sivoais |
yeah, I've been checking back in here every so often. Meanwhile, I've been trying to figure out what I got wrong in my equation for machine learning |
02:51 |
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sivoais |
ooh, but if you tell me, won't it no longer be a secret?! :-D |
02:51 |
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pdurbin |
:) |
02:51 |
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pdurbin |
sivoais: you might be all "why did you think I'd be the least bit interested in this?" |
02:52 |
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sivoais |
hahaha |
02:53 |
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pdurbin |
wow, pdftotext really works |
02:53 |
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pdurbin |
it's like antiword |
02:56 |
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* semiosis |
waiting to hear pdurbin's super top secret project |
02:56 |
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* semiosis |
starts extra, redundant, channel loggers |
02:57 |
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semiosis |
j/k, they always running lol |
02:58 |
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pdurbin |
it's not *my* project |
02:58 |
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semiosis |
i have a secret project too. only secret because no one cares or remember when i rant at them about it :/ |
02:59 |
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pdurbin |
and there's already a github organization: https://github.com/DataFairPort |
02:59 |
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semiosis |
pdurbin: name reminds me of that drm cracker fairplay (or was it playfair?) |
03:00 |
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pdurbin |
huh, there's stuff on twitter too: https://twitter.com/atreloar/status/423806936706867200 |
03:00 |
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sivoais |
it was <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairPlay> |
03:00 |
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pdurbin |
sivoais: you're into this kind of stuff, right? |
03:01 |
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pdurbin |
oh yeah, fairplay. I forgot about that |
03:02 |
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pdurbin |
sivoais: I keep meaning to ask you what's up with the markdown-compliant links |
03:02 |
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sivoais |
yes! Reuse and sharing of data is something I really want more of. Esp. in my field (biomedical image analysis) |
03:02 |
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semiosis |
playfair was/is a cracking tool for fairplay drm |
03:03 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: ah. ok |
03:03 |
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pdurbin |
sivoais: right, so watch this space. that github org |
03:03 |
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semiosis |
starred it |
03:03 |
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semiosis |
fwiw |
03:03 |
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pdurbin |
:) |
03:04 |
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sivoais |
haha, I delimit my URLs out of habit. It helps in case I want to send it to something for parsing (like urlview) |
03:04 |
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pdurbin |
well, we're all probably a little OCD :) |
03:04 |
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semiosis |
javaeebot: url http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairPlay |
03:04 |
|
javaeebot |
semiosis: Error: "url" is not a valid command. |
03:04 |
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semiosis |
oh well |
03:05 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: you need to take over the running of my supybots |
03:05 |
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pdurbin |
I think crimsonfubot is still MIA |
03:05 |
|
semiosis |
ahahaha |
03:06 |
|
semiosis |
i'd only even consider javaeebot, in #javaee, since people actually (though rarely) use it |
03:06 |
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pdurbin |
##javaee |
03:07 |
|
semiosis |
but i could do that. logstashbot hardly takes any of my time |
03:07 |
|
semiosis |
##whatever |
03:08 |
|
semiosis |
tell you what, i'll run javaeebot on my server, but you evangelize it to the room/community and you admin it (or ping me in channel with admin req's) |
03:08 |
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* pdurbin |
looks at http://irclog.gr/#search/irc.freenode.net/logstash/logstashbot |
03:09 |
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semiosis |
lmk if that sounds good to you, i can set up the bot tmrw it takes 10 min |
03:10 |
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* pdurbin |
is a control freak |
03:10 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: I'll think about it :) |
03:10 |
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semiosis |
but sorry no bots (from me) for crimsonfu or sourcefu, too little traffic yet |
03:10 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: thanks :) |
03:10 |
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semiosis |
yw :) |
03:10 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: oh, well, I have javaeebot in several channels so I'll just keep it, I guess |
03:10 |
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pdurbin |
warts and all |
03:11 |
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semiosis |
hah ok |
03:11 |
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semiosis |
i could have the one bot join many chans, at your direction |
03:11 |
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semiosis |
but each one is a login & installation on my server, so would only want to maintain a single install |
03:11 |
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semiosis |
that's all i'm sayin |
03:12 |
|
semiosis |
anyway, offer is open |
03:12 |
|
semiosis |
i would give you bot op, you could have it join |
03:12 |
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semiosis |
well whatever, your call, let me know any time if you change your mind |
03:12 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: oh, I see, so you wouldn't mind having your javaeebot in here or #dvn or #netbeans or wherever else I have my javaeebot |
03:13 |
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semiosis |
as long as i only have to run a single instance, you can make it do w/e you want (i'll help you admin it) |
03:13 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: thought you probably want no association with netbeans ;) |
03:13 |
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pdurbin |
though* |
03:13 |
|
semiosis |
lol hardly, if i run it, and you admin it, and it helps people, we all win |
03:14 |
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semiosis |
srsly |
03:14 |
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semiosis |
i just dont have the time to participate in all those chans |
03:14 |
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pdurbin |
oh sure |
03:14 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: what's logstashbot got that javaeebot ain't? |
03:15 |
|
* pdurbin |
misses codex's bot |
03:16 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: a url command, I guess |
03:16 |
|
semiosis |
javaeebot: version |
03:16 |
|
javaeebot |
semiosis: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
03:16 |
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semiosis |
the version command |
03:16 |
|
pdurbin |
meh! |
03:16 |
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pdurbin |
;) |
03:17 |
|
semiosis |
and countless other bugfixes & features that could be enabled |
03:17 |
|
pdurbin |
semiosis: you should send one of your bots in #supybot and give me a demo |
03:18 |
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semiosis |
yum/apt install mainline supybot, which is ancient & unmaintained. a fork of supybot, limnoria, is maintained. it's not distro-packaged though, need to install it manually... which is like two commands, easy peasy |
03:18 |
|
pdurbin |
yeah |
03:20 |
|
semiosis |
pdurbin: just pop in #logstash & ping me for a bot demo. but it's really just four features... 1. url shortening whenver a long url is pasted; 2. url title snarfing for all urls pasted; 3. announcements (every 15~30 min) of news from the issue tracker rss feed; and 4. factoids - quick answers to FAQs |
03:20 |
|
semiosis |
for example... |
03:20 |
|
semiosis |
`mirrors |
03:21 |
|
semiosis |
will have the bot say someting like "you can download logstash from here <url> or here <url>" |
03:21 |
|
semiosis |
factoids are the most helpful, but people have to actually use them. once people do start using them, they're super helpful |
03:22 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: sure, but factoids can be used for ill. spend some time in ##java and their javabot :) |
03:23 |
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semiosis |
sure, dbl edged sword. though in #gluster and #logstash i've never seen anyone use factoids for ill |
03:23 |
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pdurbin |
well that's good |
03:23 |
|
semiosis |
everyone can `learn and `forget factoids, so if someone adds a nasty, someone else can remove |
03:24 |
|
semiosis |
if someone removed all of them, that would suck (i dont backup the server too often) |
03:24 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: do you list available factoids on the web like this? http://evanchooly.com/factoids |
03:24 |
|
semiosis |
but what kind of depraved individual would do such a thing?! |
03:25 |
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semiosis |
no but that's a good idea. anyone could query the bot for a list, but afaik no one bothers to |
03:25 |
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pdurbin |
yeah. lazy |
03:25 |
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semiosis |
it really takes a bit of effort to get people to use factoids |
03:26 |
|
semiosis |
we must use the 'ports' factoid in #gluster like 10 times a day. without it we probably woudln't bother describing how glusterfs uses tcp ports half the time |
03:26 |
|
semiosis |
so helpful |
03:26 |
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pdurbin |
in practice using `lucky` with javaeebot answers an lot of FAQs :) |
03:26 |
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pdurbin |
a* |
03:27 |
|
semiosis |
yes most of the time |
03:28 |
|
semiosis |
i find myself googling in a browser before calling lucky, because i am careful. at that point i should just paste the url from the browser |
03:28 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: and I think I've mentioned I don't the url "features" you mentioned. no offense :) |
03:29 |
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semiosis |
you're entitled to your opinion. i dont care either way tbh. people asked for the link shortener & title snarfer in #logstash! |
03:29 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: sometimes I do `/msg javaeebot lucky` first |
03:29 |
|
semiosis |
i give them what they want |
03:29 |
|
pdurbin |
semiosis: you are a man of the people |
03:30 |
|
semiosis |
400+ nicks in #logstash -- that channel *needed* a bot. someone had to do it |
03:30 |
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pdurbin |
big city problems ;) |
03:30 |
|
semiosis |
i was inspired by joejulian providing glusterbot. |
03:30 |
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semiosis |
wanted to be like joe |
03:30 |
|
semiosis |
lol |
03:30 |
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pdurbin |
don't we all |
03:31 |
|
semiosis |
haha |
03:34 |
|
semiosis |
well, bout time for me to be hittin the ol dusty trail |
03:35 |
|
semiosis |
i've been attending sunshinephp (conf) yesterday & today, getting up at dawn, and fighting off a cold |
03:35 |
|
semiosis |
sleep is calling, and I'm picking up the phone! |
03:35 |
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semiosis |
g'nite pdurbin |
03:37 |
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pdurbin |
o/ |
03:37 |
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semiosis |
\o |
06:56 |
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14:42 |
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skay |
pdurbin: Maciej of pinboard is working on an rss reader. |
14:43 |
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* skay |
is thinking of changing distro on laptop to debian wheezy or archlinux |
15:02 |
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pdurbin |
skay: from which distro? |
15:15 |
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skay |
ubuntu saucy |
15:16 |
|
skay |
nothing exotic |
15:16 |
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skay |
do you have a mac? I use homebrew on mac for packaging |
15:29 |
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pdurbin |
skay: at work I use a mac. the whole dev team does. and netbeans |
15:30 |
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pdurbin |
didn't want to be "that guy" who insisted on running linux :) |
15:31 |
|
pdurbin |
putting myself out of step with everyone else |
15:31 |
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pdurbin |
but at home I'm on linux, using netbeans, making the occasional commit, and it's all fine |
15:34 |
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skay |
at my old job, we had macs for work laptops, centos for everythng else. |
15:35 |
|
skay |
I have a mac air, but kept getting irked about how finicky things could be on it when trying to do development when the experience of using ubuntu (or whatever) was invariably easy |
15:36 |
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skay |
so I got an extra laptop when I got my newjob |
15:36 |
|
skay |
why did you guys end up using netbeans? |
15:36 |
|
skay |
at my old job it was eclipse versus intellij and I can remember one lone standout using netbeans way back |
15:36 |
|
skay |
(also, vim) |
15:37 |
|
skay |
I use vim |
15:37 |
|
skay |
played with eclim a bit but never remembered all the commands |
15:38 |
|
skay |
I'm not religious about editors, I've gone through an emacs phase too |
15:38 |
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skay |
I switched back to vim when I started working at Orbitz because why not. i was curious when I saw a lot of saavy vim people |
15:38 |
|
skay |
job before, I used emacs |
15:39 |
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skay |
pdurbin: there are some fun vim plugins that give you code navigation like you can get with things like eclipse (and I assume netbeans) |
15:39 |
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pdurbin |
skay: hysterical raisins, I guess. I'm not sure why we're on netbeans. in general, I think of our dev environment as "pure Sun" or I guess "pure Oracle" these days... Java EE on Glassfish with NetBeans |
15:40 |
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pdurbin |
skay: oh, I'm definitely in the vim camp. I can barely get out of emacs |
15:40 |
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skay |
is that a conscious decision to avoid a lot of dependencies? |
15:40 |
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pdurbin |
see also https://github.com/pdurbin/vim-tsv |
15:40 |
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pdurbin |
skay: what dependencies? |
15:41 |
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skay |
pdurbin: one of my friends writes a vim plugin to create a lisp ide out of it |
15:41 |
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15:41 |
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skay |
he named it nexthus but prounces it nexus |
15:41 |
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skay |
pdurbin: any dependencies you'd have by not using pure Oracle |
15:42 |
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skay |
for example, spring and hibernate and other frameworks like that |
15:42 |
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pdurbin |
hmm, not sure |
15:42 |
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pdurbin |
yeah, we don't touch any of that stuff. pure JPA |
15:43 |
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skay |
kind of cool |
15:43 |
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skay |
I have not looked at the dvn code yet, I'm talking about the concept |
15:43 |
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skay |
too busy to dig right now |
15:44 |
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skay |
need more time! |
15:44 |
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pdurbin |
skay: I wouldn't recommend digging into https://github.com/iqss/dvn (3.x) ... did you see http://thedata.org/blog/major-dataverse-release-coming-spring-2014 ? |
15:45 |
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skay |
if the funding runs out at the end of my job I am tempted to take a 3 month or so break to have fun looking at things |
15:45 |
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pdurbin |
we're all about 4.0 these days |
15:45 |
|
pdurbin |
"rewrite our code from the ground up" |
15:45 |
|
skay |
OMG HA |
15:45 |
|
pdurbin |
yeah |
15:45 |
|
skay |
I was involved in "rewriting the orbitz platform" |
15:46 |
|
skay |
2nd classic mistake -- land war in china! |
15:46 |
|
skay |
back before things were so "agile" there |
15:46 |
|
skay |
it was a software deathmarch |
15:46 |
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pdurbin |
hmm |
15:46 |
|
pdurbin |
don't like the sound of that |
15:46 |
|
skay |
no, it was bad. a lot of good people left |
15:46 |
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pdurbin |
skay: but in the end, it was a successful rewrite? |
15:46 |
|
skay |
they recovered |
15:46 |
|
skay |
yes |
15:46 |
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pdurbin |
phew! |
15:46 |
|
pdurbin |
gives me hope :) |
15:47 |
|
skay |
they struggled to get saner development process in place and I don't think they tend to have software deathmarches |
15:47 |
|
skay |
I'm sure some people backslide every now and then |
15:47 |
|
skay |
when I have java friends looking for jobs, I will ask frends who still work at orbitz what groups are hiring, and based on the team I will refer my friend or not |
15:48 |
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skay |
I'm glad your rewrite is going well |
15:48 |
|
pdurbin |
so far so good, I'd say |
15:48 |
|
pdurbin |
we're re-thinking our entire app |
15:48 |
|
pdurbin |
naming things in a more sane way |
15:49 |
|
pdurbin |
no more legacy names for stuff |
15:49 |
|
skay |
(I remember you linking to that blog post before I was jealous about your photo because it means you have academic programmers but they aren't all crazy, I bet) |
15:49 |
|
pdurbin |
new heirarchical model |
15:49 |
|
pdurbin |
primefaces rather than icefaces |
15:49 |
|
pdurbin |
bean validation |
15:49 |
|
pdurbin |
jersey client framework for REST stuff |
15:49 |
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skay |
I'm unfamiliar with beanfaces |
15:50 |
|
skay |
moar REST |
15:50 |
|
pdurbin |
oh, java 7. that's big |
15:50 |
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skay |
I'm unfamiliar with jersey |
15:50 |
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pdurbin |
lots of changes |
15:50 |
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skay |
I left orbitz just before getting in to java 7 |
15:50 |
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pdurbin |
lots of new shiny |
15:50 |
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pdurbin |
java 7 has json built in |
15:50 |
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skay |
I feel so weird for not hating java |
15:50 |
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skay |
all of my friends bad mouth java |
15:51 |
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pdurbin |
I used to. it's not so bad :) |
15:51 |
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skay |
when I press them, they were using it around 1.4 |
15:51 |
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pdurbin |
sure |
15:51 |
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skay |
well, I have friends who use modern java who also grumble |
15:51 |
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skay |
I mean, sure, I like python, etc. |
15:52 |
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pdurbin |
skay: we have a guy who's putting method chaining in our java. it's pretty neat |
15:52 |
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skay |
Oh I love method chaining except you have to watch yourself with it |
15:52 |
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skay |
if you don't watch it, you'll find yourself debugging with unhelpful stacktraces... |
15:53 |
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pdurbin |
dunno what you call a crush on a developer at a technical level but I have one for this guy |
15:53 |
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skay |
but I love method chaining for making code less verbose |
15:53 |
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skay |
I call those brain crushes |
15:53 |
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pdurbin |
heh. nice |
15:54 |
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pdurbin |
I was listening to a podcast where they were talking about a more modern style for java, and method chaining was in there. not sure what other good examples might be |
15:54 |
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pdurbin |
I mean, perl has the same thing |
15:54 |
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pdurbin |
javaeebot: lucky modern perl |
15:54 |
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javaeebot |
pdurbin: http://modernperlbooks.com/ |
15:54 |
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skay |
you follow a lot of podcasts |
15:54 |
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pdurbin |
javaeebot: lucky modern perl module |
15:54 |
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javaeebot |
pdurbin: http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?Modern%3A%3APerl |
15:55 |
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pdurbin |
skay: yeah, not all these podcasts, but a good number: http://tmp.greptilian.com/tmp/feedhistory/titles.html |
15:55 |
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pdurbin |
need to clean up those scripts and come up with a more permanent url |
15:56 |
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pdurbin |
sometimes I get podcast recommendations from sivoais |
15:56 |
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skay |
I have trouble following audio/video casts. I have hit upon speeding them up sometimes to help |
15:57 |
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skay |
but I don't follow any. |
15:57 |
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pdurbin |
I have no time for video podcasts. ftw: ffmpeg -i foo.mp4 foo.mp3 |
15:58 |
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skay |
btw, back on vim topic, https://github.com/codersquid/vimdots/tree/master/bundle |
15:59 |
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skay |
don't bother with my dotfiles but that is a list of bundles that I use or am trying out |
15:59 |
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skay |
nerdtree, bufexplorer, taglist are all very nice |
16:00 |
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skay |
I'm sure I'd like the surround module if I remembered to use it |
16:00 |
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pdurbin |
skay: https://github.com/pdurbin/dotfiles/tree/master/.vim/bundle |
16:01 |
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skay |
I'd probably use that tsv plugin if I had to edit tsv files more often! |
16:01 |
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skay |
I only went through a very short phase of having to look at them because people got in to using this test framework called robot |
16:01 |
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skay |
and the test files were written in tsv format |
16:01 |
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skay |
I hated that |
16:02 |
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pdurbin |
robot? |
16:02 |
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skay |
let me see... |
16:02 |
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pdurbin |
javaeebot: lucky robot test framework |
16:02 |
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javaeebot |
pdurbin: http://robotframework.org/ |
16:03 |
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skay |
yes, that's it |
16:03 |
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* pdurbin |
gives javaeebot a treat |
16:03 |
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pdurbin |
semiosis: see?!? `lucky` is all I need :) |
16:03 |
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skay |
it is a nice bot |
16:03 |
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pdurbin |
it does one thing and does it well :) |
16:04 |
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pdurbin |
whelp, my little girls want to blow their xmas money on princess lego friends. heading out |
16:05 |
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skay |
bye! |
16:05 |
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pdurbin |
sigh... Philip Durbin - Google+ - LEGO ads for girls: then and now "Have you ever seen… - https://plus.google.com/+PhilipDurbin/posts/h8jTDdhVfwf |
16:05 |
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skay |
ugh |
16:06 |
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skay |
scratch :) raspberry pi for your daughter? |
16:51 |
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pdurbin |
skay: the older one loves Scratch: https://plus.google.com/+PhilipDurbin/posts/EDt3LhuwpCM |
16:51 |
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pdurbin |
ironcamel: you commented on both of those posts :) |
16:59 |
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skay |
pdurbin: Carl (my spouse) and I gave my sister's kids raspis a couple of christmases ago but since we live in IL and they live in TX we weren't around enough tog uide them so I don't think they |
17:00 |
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skay |
have used them much. we are thinking we'll put together some projects on another trip in case we spark anything |
17:00 |
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skay |
the youngest is playing with ajvascript on khan academy |
17:00 |
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pdurbin |
how old is the youngest? |
17:00 |
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skay |
she also likes knitting, making things with ducttape |
17:00 |
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skay |
11? |
17:01 |
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skay |
so I am hoping to gte some scraps and wires and things together to show her how to do some etextile projects |
17:01 |
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skay |
she might like that combo |
17:02 |
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skay |
she also likes hermit crabs, and when we got them the raspis we also got cheap webcams -- I was thinking she might set up a hermit crab cam and maybe we could show her how to do stop motion capture and maybe see when the hermit craps are out and graph it or smoething |
17:02 |
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pdurbin |
nice |
17:02 |
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skay |
she's not very outgoing through, so I don't want to be pushy about sharing my interests |
17:03 |
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skay |
maybe only some nudges |
17:04 |
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skay |
oh! at the same time we got hte family a simple box to put linux on, one around $300, and finally my BIL has started playing around with it! |
17:04 |
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skay |
he's been liking it a lot more than his wndows machine :) :) |
17:04 |
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skay |
I'm not so great at helping when he has questions about Thunderbird and things like that |
17:05 |
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skay |
yay family |
17:05 |
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skay |
and unix bonding |
17:07 |
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skay |
I'm hoping one of them start to love programming because I will be able to play along with |
17:44 |
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pdurbin |
skay: I bet you'd like http://www.frompythonimportpodcast.com/2013/12/24/episode-016-katie-cunningham-and-the-podcast-of-doom/ |
17:44 |
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pdurbin |
"young coders tutorial" and whatnot |
17:44 |
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skay |
oh yeah |
17:46 |
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skay |
pdurbin: you know about http://www.meetup.com/bostonpython/ right? |
17:51 |
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pdurbin |
skay: yeah. too busy for in person stuff though :( |
17:51 |
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pdurbin |
I don't get out much :( |
17:53 |
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skay |
sometimes Carl has managed to stream our user group, but he is not motivated to keep that up. People will ask for it, then not watch. |
17:54 |
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skay |
so he'd rather not spend the time setting things up |
17:55 |
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skay |
(he uses Tim's setup. http://code.timvideos.us/Home.html they've both run this setup at pycon and other confs) |
17:55 |
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skay |
it works for a small meeting too |
17:57 |
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skay |
maybe if you find obsessive people in the Boston group they will stream for you https://github.com/timvideos/streaming-system (some hardware required, unless they pick another method or hack on this a lot) |
18:16 |
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pdurbin |
interesting idea |
18:17 |
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pdurbin |
I dunno, I feel like that "from python import podcast" is enough for me for now |
18:19 |
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pdurbin |
huh. I was gonna say "and this one" but I guess it shut down: Django Round-Up by Lincoln Loop - http://roundup.lincolnloop.com |
18:20 |
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pdurbin |
I've also thought about trying to get some content to listen to from http://www.confreaks.com |
18:20 |
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pdurbin |
and, of course, there are a ton of free, online courses: http://wonderstudy.github.io |