| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 16:14 |
|
pdurbin |
Pythonista is an integrated development environment for writing Python™ scripts on iOS: http://omz-software.com/pythonista/ |
| 17:41 |
|
pdurbin |
semiosis: James Gosling uses JavaFX: http://irclog.greptilian.com/javaee/2013-09-22#i_24314 |
| 22:05 |
|
sivoais |
pdurbin: I wrote some posts related to that document viewer project I mentioned at <http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu/dvn/2013-07-22#i_2656> |
| 22:05 |
|
sivoais |
<http://enetdown.org/outgoing/posts/2013/09/17/three_books_on_reading/>, <http://enetdown.org/dot-plan/posts/2013/09/22/a_writeup_on_my_doc_reader_project/> |
| 22:05 |
|
sivoais |
hopefully I get some time to work on the code some more in between my research |
| 22:06 |
|
pdurbin |
"My interest in this area is from my frustrations with how much information I have to make sense of while I do research. I can never keep track of it all in a way that feels satisfactory even after looking for the tools." |
| 22:06 |
|
pdurbin |
sivoais: have you tried https://openscienceframework.org ? |
| 22:06 |
|
sivoais |
I haven't. Looking |
| 22:06 |
|
pdurbin |
I was there all last week: https://plus.google.com/107770072576338242009/posts/AkCBQ8sGLAA |
| 22:07 |
|
sivoais |
hmm, it appears I already follow them on Twitter ^_^ |
| 22:07 |
|
pdurbin |
sivoais: looking at your blog posts |
| 22:09 |
|
sivoais |
ah, I've watched <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRadGRdkAIQ> before |
| 22:10 |
|
sivoais |
"The Open Science Framework: Improving, by Opening, Science; SciPy 2013 Presentation" |
| 22:11 |
|
sivoais |
it's a shame that the data we use in biomedical image processing can't be shared between labs. It would really help with making everyone's approaches more robust. |
| 22:29 |
|
pdurbin |
sivoais: but you could still use OSF... the data doesn't have to be public |
| 22:34 |
|
sivoais |
I'll have to give it a try. :-) |
| 22:46 |
|
pdurbin |
they have lots of features planned |
| 22:46 |
|
pdurbin |
oh, and it's built on git, which is interesting |
| 22:48 |
|
pdurbin |
"By pointing out that Whitman constantly tinkered with the interpretation of even his earliest work by issuing new editions, Levy illustrates that a document is rarely static." |
| 22:48 |
|
pdurbin |
reminds me of George Lucas |
| 22:51 |
|
sivoais |
hehe, so Lucas is doing nothing new! But Whitman didn't have cons for his fans back then, afaik :-P |
| 22:52 |
|
sivoais |
my current research workflow is all git. I keep my notebook in there and record the commands I run |
| 22:55 |
|
sivoais |
as well my code, papers. I need to be more selective with my data because I generate many gigs in each run |
| 22:56 |
|
pdurbin |
sivoais: I can't read all this right now but I will |
| 22:56 |
|
sivoais |
:-) |
| 22:57 |
|
pdurbin |
sivoais: OSF will allow you to git clone your project. soon if not already |
| 23:03 |
|
pdurbin |
sivoais: for now, I simply let those guys know they should check out your blog post: https://twitter.com/philipdurbin/status/381916711047266304 |
| 23:04 |
|
sivoais |
hehe, cool! I think they're more on the code side and I want to look at documents, but they will need to get closer at some point. |
| 23:04 |
|
sivoais |
I would love to have literate programming for research |
| 23:05 |
|
pdurbin |
sivoais: I dunno, those guys are pretty into neuroscience |
| 23:05 |
|
sivoais |
Ah, nice! I'm actually working on neuron images. |
| 23:06 |
|
pdurbin |
a good percentage of their users are from psychology |
| 23:07 |
|
pdurbin |
sivoais: this Proust and the Squid is the same book as that brain science postcast, right? |
| 23:07 |
|
sivoais |
yep! |
| 23:08 |
|
sivoais |
It makes sense that psych./neuro. researchers want more sharing. There's a lot of data and most results come from trying to see the forest out all the studies. |
| 23:09 |
|
pdurbin |
http://brainsciencpodcast.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/brain-science-podcast-24-reading-and-the-brain/ |
| 23:09 |
|
pdurbin |
yeah |
| 23:17 |
|
pdurbin |
sivoais: I'm on to your second blog post. :) |
| 23:17 |
|
pdurbin |
sivoais: for document similarity have you seen http://consilience.com ? |
| 23:19 |
|
sivoais |
I hadn't heard of it. hey, it looks like it's named after the book by E.O. Wilson |
| 23:20 |
|
pdurbin |
they're two doors down from me: http://www.iq.harvard.edu/products |
| 23:20 |
|
pdurbin |
sivoais: https://redmine.hmdc.harvard.edu/projects/clustering might give you a flavor of the project |
| 23:22 |
|
pdurbin |
sivoais: not sure if you've heard of this conference: http://www.force11.org/beyondthepdf2 |
| 23:22 |
|
sivoais |
very cool! I have heard of that conference. |
| 23:23 |
|
sivoais |
"Convert PDF to XML, keep formatting and images" <https://redmine.hmdc.harvard.edu/issues/3142> |
| 23:23 |
|
sivoais |
is harder than it appears |
| 23:23 |
|
pdurbin |
i bet |
| 23:23 |
|
pdurbin |
sivoais: so, yeah, there's a need for your tool, I think |
| 23:24 |
|
pdurbin |
I mean, people seem to like annotating Kindle books... but I don't like the closed nature of that ecosystem |
| 23:24 |
|
* sivoais |
nods |
| 23:25 |
|
sivoais |
and closed systems haven't had good record for archival |
| 23:26 |
|
pdurbin |
yeah |
| 23:26 |
|
pdurbin |
in the pre-digital age, people just had to keep good notes, right? when they were reading a pile of material in preparation for writing a book or paper |
| 23:26 |
|
pdurbin |
people do literature reviews |
| 23:27 |
|
pdurbin |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literature_review |
| 23:27 |
|
sivoais |
yep, and <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annotated_bibliography> |
| 23:27 |
|
pdurbin |
sivoais: seems like your tool could help with this |
| 23:30 |
|
sivoais |
I hope so! I know there's been much work done in this area, but packaging all those ideas in a way people can use daily is a challenge in itself. |
